PT Batch fades: Separate fade in and fade out times?

[Rufuss Sewell]

I've asked this question many times over the years and in general I get this weird response from PT users. Usually it's something like... of course you can... read the manual loser!!!

But it's been many years now and still I can't figure out how to set a separate time for fade ins and fade outs.

Example: I have 1000 snare hits. I want them all to have a 1 ms fade in and a 500 ms fade out. In Logic I highlight them all, and set the fade in and fade out parameters respectively. In PT the batch fade window only offers one field and it seems to apply to both fade in and fade out. Unlinking them does not offer a new fade.

Is there any way to achieve a 1 ms fade in and 500 ms fade out on 1000 regions with one operation in PT?

[Improv]

Allow me to end your years of searching:

No.

[dcrann11]

Hey


Been looking into this lately - in pt you can unlink the fades and then manually move the fade lines. When you unlink them grab one of the little black boxes in the coners and drag.

Last night i was messing with a quick linear fade in and a long fast linear fade out on a snare track. It wasn't working pefectly as was getting pops and click sometimes. I do think Logic does this better.

I am new to logic (ensemble macbook pro rig) and a long time pt user - can you tell me - does logic have anything like beat detective for editing multitrack drums (not being sarcastic here - just wondering if I could edit drums in logic and use the fade/envelope tool as well)

many thanks

[Rufuss Sewell]

It seems like such a huge oversight to me. Fade ins and fade outs are completely different things. They almost always need to be extremely fast on the fade in and relatively slow on the fade out. PT is known for being excellent for audio editing and this one omission just seems so STUPID!!!

To answer your question about Beat Detective in Logic... you can definitely do the job, but it takes a LOT longer. You can either manually cut at every transient, quantize, and crossfade. Or strip silence reference tracks and make markers from the regions. Then go from one region to the next kind of like "tab to transient" slicing all of your hits. Either way the slicing happens one note at a time.

PT is much much better for this, especially with the new Elastic Audio features. That's why I'm moving my tracking and editing to PT 7.4 now. But because of the lazy implimentation of batch fades, I'll be moving the operation back to Logic for the clean up type editing that results in huge amounts of regions. I just can't work with thousands of regions at a time in a program that is so inflexable with batch fades.

[Keith Moore]

Has this been made possble yet with Pro Tools 8?

Originally Posted by Rufuss Sewell

I've asked this question many times over the years and in general I get this weird response from PT users. Usually it's something like... of course you can... read the manual loser!!!

But it's been many years now and still I can't figure out how to set a separate time for fade ins and fade outs.

Example: I have 1000 snare hits. I want them all to have a 1 ms fade in and a 500 ms fade out. In Logic I highlight them all, and set the fade in and fade out parameters respectively. In PT the batch fade window only offers one field and it seems to apply to both fade in and fade out. Unlinking them does not offer a new fade.

Is there any way to achieve a 1 ms fade in and 500 ms fade out on 1000 regions with one operation in PT?

[Makinithappen]

Pretty sure it's possible.. Just 2 keystokes instead of one.

Batch fade your fade ins...then batch fade your fade outs with "Don't effect existing fades" checkbox checked....

Not in front of my PT rig at the moment but pretty sure this works...

[Makinithappen]

Or dcranns forst suggestion seems like it may work as well...

[Makinithappen]

Originally Posted by Improv

Allow me to end your years of searching:

No.

Lastly (and then I'm out) You seem to have jumped in early on at least one other thread to crap on PT just to be wrong.... Perhaps you should get a little more experience with the program before you are ready to make "factual" statements on what PT can and cant do....

They aren't the standard because they overlook simple tasks....

[tamasdragon]

Originally Posted by Makinithappen

Pretty sure it's possible.. Just 2 keystokes instead of one.

Batch fade your fade ins...then batch fade your fade outs with "Don't effect existing fades" checkbox checked....

Not in front of my PT rig at the moment but pretty sure this works...

Absolutely. It is only 2secs longer.thumbsup

[toolskid]

you can also do NO fade in and the fade out of your choice - or vice versa

Unlink the fade shapes - choose the right angle for the zero fade and whatever shape you desire for the full fade - set the fade time and go...

Sorry if everyone knew this already but its something I get asked a lot in masterclasses