sidechaining eq,

[gizeh12]

With sidechaining, the sidechained signal is lowered in db when the trigger signal comes in. But is it also possible to lower a certain frequencie as the trigger signal comes in?? Is there some kind of plugin to do this??

Would be great to sidechain a signa,, and for instance make the bassline cut out that 30 to 120 hz when the kicks comes in.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by gizeh12

With sidechaining, the sidechained signal is lowered in db when the trigger signal comes in. But is it also possible to lower a certain frequencie as the trigger signal comes in?? Is there some kind of plugin to do this??

Would be great to sidechain a signa,, and for instance make the bassline cut out that 30 to 120 hz when the kicks comes in.

You're describing a dynamic EQ - something like this

http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_clm_dynamics_expounder/

which can be used in the way you describe, by linking the channels and using the 2nd channel as the key.

Not sure if there are any software/less expensive versions...BSS also make a dynamic EQ which I think can do the same job - again, you'd need to use one side as a trigger.

[redroom]

Sonalksis Dynamic eq is what you want

[Dos]

Originally Posted by redroom

Sonalksis Dynamic eq is what you want

Can you side chain it with an external key?

I didn't think you could.

[Joemamma]

Sidechain a band-compressor set to compress the frequency area you want.

[gizeh12]

Originally Posted by Joemamma

Sidechain a band-compressor set to compress the frequency area you want.

i thought about that to, but i checked the stock multiband comp in logic and it doesnt have a sidechain option.

So the sonalksis plugin is that the cq1 or the dq1 wich is able to sidechain??

Does anyone use it here?? IFf so,, what for?? (ill use it mainly for bass, to roll of that 50-120khzof the bothom, when the kickdrum kicks in)

[MATTI]

Maybe you could try to split it to two tracs with eq´s and then sidechain
the "lower" part? Sort of paraller comp.
Unfotunately cq1 nor dq1 have external sidechain.

Matti

[gizeh12]

too bad,,, youre right, i just looked it up on their website

the way i do it now is just use the automation and draw the curve according to the point in time the signal is triggered. Can be a very boring and cumbersone process but ooh boy my mixes have improved a lot since this trick.

I use this mainly for bass, kicks and toms. Can be usefull for vocals to.

are there any plugins wich are capable of dynamic eq sidechaining?

[redroom]

Originally Posted by gizeh12

too bad,,, youre right, i just looked it up on their website

the way i do it now is just use the automation and draw the curve according to the point in time the signal is triggered. Can be a very boring and cumbersone process but ooh boy my mixes have improved a lot since this trick.

I use this mainly for bass, kicks and toms. Can be usefull for vocals to.

are there any plugins wich are capable of dynamic eq sidechaining?

Like I said try the Sonalksis DQ1

Basically you can set it up so it will only eq selected frequencys when certain ranges are reached.It is a very powerfull too and there is a fully functional 30 day demo so give it a try I think it is excately what your looking for.

[MATTI]

I think he wants to do the bassdrum ducks bass trick for the lower frq, hence
the sidechain.

Matti

[j-uk]

Originally Posted by gizeh12

With sidechaining, the sidechained signal is lowered in db when the trigger signal comes in. But is it also possible to lower a certain frequencie as the trigger signal comes in?? Is there some kind of plugin to do this??

Would be great to sidechain a signa,, and for instance make the bassline cut out that 30 to 120 hz when the kicks comes in.

hmm maybe i'm missing something here but......
In Logic set the kick to send to bus 1(for example) - set an aux to input bus 1 and output to bus 3 - stick an eq on the aux. now put a comp on your bass track and set the sidechain input to bus 3. on the aux eq exaggerate the freq you want to get rid of on the receiving track.

cheers

[Lagerfeldt]

Originally Posted by gizeh12

too bad,,, youre right, i just looked it up on their website

the way i do it now is just use the automation and draw the curve according to the point in time the signal is triggered. Can be a very boring and cumbersone process but ooh boy my mixes have improved a lot since this trick.

I use this mainly for bass, kicks and toms. Can be usefull for vocals to.

are there any plugins wich are capable of dynamic eq sidechaining?

Yes, the Sonalksis DQ-1.

Sonalksis - Quality Digital Audio Software

[gizeh12]

Originally Posted by j-uk

hmm maybe i'm missing something here but......
In Logic set the kick to send to bus 1(for example) - set an aux to input bus 1 and output to bus 3 - stick an eq on the aux. now put a comp on your bass track and set the sidechain input to bus 3. on the aux eq exaggerate the freq you want to get rid of on the receiving track.

cheers

I already didi this but i couldnt get the bassline to sound natural and get rid of the frequencies enough,,, too much breading and pumping , A compressor reacts to DB and not frequencies, so when you boost a frequency, the side chained signal (the bassline) will be ducked at the whole frequencie spectrum and not just at the 40-150 hz.

i think i got better results with automating the eq

appreciate your input

[gizeh12]

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

Yes, the Sonalksis DQ-1.

Sonalksis - Quality Digital Audio Software

Ive read the manual but there is nothing mentioned about a sidechain for external signals. Are you sure??

[MATTI]

It´s exelent for many purposes ( de-ess for ex. )
but really no ext. sidechain like Sonalksis 312.
I´m bit lost now, but check Kjaerhus GAG-1, it has sidechain filters active even with ext.
s.ch. -correct me if I´m wrong.

Matti