waves api vs urs a-series

[DivineMusic]

i'm thinking about getting the waves api plugins...
are they much better than the urs a-series?

or am i better off just sticking with my oxford and waves ssl plugs?

[narcoman]

well i dont have the equivalent API gear (apart from 2500 in the Waves setup) to do a real comparison but the two sets are very very different. The Waves stuff is a proper license from API and the URS isnt - least not endorsed in the same way.

They both behave very differently and the same setting done on both yield different resulst - vastly in fact. The whole URS set is a good thing to have and pretty cool in its own right - the Neve stuff sounds pretty good but as an owner of shedloads of real 1073'2 and 1081's and a ruddy great big Neve console (actually not that big) they do not sound like the real deal - very good in their own right though, and very very useful !!

[redroom]

I found the Waves Api stuff to sound much better than the URS APi plugs but in fairness the Waves used a lot more cpu.

[DivineMusic]

i used the demo's yesterday, i like the waves neve style plugs over the urs.
same with the api stuff, but now i feel like a dumb ass cuz i do have most of the urs eq's and dont even like using them anymore.. a waste of money...
now i gotta get the waves v series and api's... and deal with wup YUCK...

o as far as cpu went.. the waves were actually light on my cpu.. i used at least 30 of them and they didnt touch my cpu

[Pronecobra]

I was just going post a thread regarding the Waves V Series and the URS Neve emulations. I finally got the Mercury Bundle and have been itching to try out the Neve emus. I love Waves' SSL plugs so I reckoned I would like their V series as well.

But I have been using URS for years now and really love the stuff, great for high track counts. I love the N series and the A series (don't use the S series too much), along with their Neve, DBX, and SSL compression emulators.

I gotta know, though , which is better? This is two questions in one really . . . which is more like the original and which sounds cooler. It seems to me that sounding cool isn't neccesarily dependent on it sounding exactly like the Neve original . . .

It seems like most people like the Waves V series better than the URS Neve emulations. Can anyone tewll me some specific reasons? How are the two different? Are the URS better in any cases?

P.Cobra

[DivineMusic]

to me the waves are just more musical. the urs hiend is splashy imo...the waves is airy...
guess i gotta save some money for the api's and v series...
for the last few months all i've been using as been oxford,waves ssl and urs.. i haven't used urs plugins in a while and its been all ssl and oxford on every song over the past 4-5 months

if you havent checked out the sony(sonnex) plugins, look into them.. i'm trying to figure out if i really need the v-series or if i can create the same or similar sound with the oxford eq

[redroom]

The URS api low end goes thup the Waves API goes thump
The URS api top end goes shizzle the Wave API goes Shimmer

[mjlaudio]

i wasnt a fan of the eqs in the waves....but the compressor is great.......i have the channel strip pro and dont feel i am missing anything....i do want to get just the waves 2500 comp though

[KEYBEEETSSS]

I demoed the api wave plugs & i do have all the urs stuff....i like my urs plugs & use them in some way or another in almost every mix along with the ssl plugs etc....but i will say that waves just knows how to get u to feel like u@ the console or shifting knobs on some outboard gear....i'd have to say waves hands down....OF COURSE I STILL USE MY URS b/c i have all of it but thatz what sucks because i want the waves....nut'n feels worse than wasting money tho.....

[littledoodler]

I demoed the Waves API's and I must say they are really really good. I have heard the URS and definitely no there yet. I am really impressed with these plugs and am probably going to buy these.

[cl516]

i honestly haven't used my URS stuff in a long while.
i need to look into how to sell the licenses.

[Ambroise]

Originally Posted by Pronecobra

I was just going post a thread regarding the Waves V Series and the URS Neve emulations. I finally got the Mercury Bundle and have been itching to try out the Neve emus. I love Waves' SSL plugs so I reckoned I would like their V series as well.

But I have been using URS for years now and really love the stuff, great for high track counts. I love the N series and the A series (don't use the S series too much), along with their Neve, DBX, and SSL compression emulators.

I gotta know, though , which is better? This is two questions in one really . . . which is more like the original and which sounds cooler. It seems to me that sounding cool isn't neccesarily dependent on it sounding exactly like the Neve original . . .

It seems like most people like the Waves V series better than the URS Neve emulations. Can anyone tewll me some specific reasons? How are the two different? Are the URS better in any cases?

P.Cobra

The sound is bigger with the V series, sweetest top end, smooth and natural filter, great mids.
Plus, you got the noise, LOL.

[Ambroise]

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

to me the waves are just more musical. the urs hiend is splashy imo...the waves is airy...
guess i gotta save some money for the api's and v series...
for the last few months all i've been using as been oxford,waves ssl and urs.. i haven't used urs plugins in a while and its been all ssl and oxford on every song over the past 4-5 months

if you havent checked out the sony(sonnex) plugins, look into them.. i'm trying to figure out if i really need the v-series or if i can create the same or similar sound with the oxford eq

I don't think so !

[DivineMusic]

Originally Posted by Ambroise

I don't think so !

well thats what you THINK.. key word is think...
i use the stuff everyday and mix records.. so you can't tell me what i don't hear you feel me

do yourself a favor and boost with the n-series at 12k 10db then do the same with waves v-series and tell me which is splashy and which one is just bright with air....

bottom line is... waves api and neve's vs urs... WAVES WINS HANDS DOWN!!!!!
Thank you and good day sir

o by the wave, just tested the oxford eq's on my system.. i'm at 200 oxford eq's and its under 50% cpu.. i'll test the waves later

[Ambroise]

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

well thats what you THINK.. key word is think...
i use the stuff everyday and mix records.. so you can't tell me what i don't hear you feel me

do yourself a favor and boost with the n-series at 12k 10db then do the same with waves v-series and tell me which is splashy and which one is just bright with air....

bottom line is... waves api and neve's vs urs... WAVES WINS HANDS DOWN!!!!!
Thank you and good day sir

o by the wave, just tested the oxford eq's on my system.. i'm at 200 oxford eq's and its under 50% cpu.. i'll test the waves later

I totally agree with you that waves is better then urs.
I was talking about creating a similar sound with the sony eq which i doubt you can (or maybe with a lot more work).
That's all

[Ambroise]

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

do yourself a favor and boost with the n-series at 12k 10db then do the same with waves v-series and tell me which is splashy and which one is just bright with air....

I already did the test and i use sony and waves everyday like you.
V series is one of my fav eq

[Clayphish]

I find that most of these plugins are just tools for a fitting task. The V-series eqs for example have a nice low mid and bass, while being a bit hard on the top end. The ssl eq is almost the opposite I find. Of course I'm speaking generally here and could get more in depth but don't want to.

[Agno]

Originally Posted by Pronecobra

I was just going post a thread regarding the Waves V Series and the URS Neve emulations. I finally got the Mercury Bundle and have been itching to try out the Neve emus. I love Waves' SSL plugs so I reckoned I would like their V series as well.

But I have been using URS for years now and really love the stuff, great for high track counts. I love the N series and the A series (don't use the S series too much), along with their Neve, DBX, and SSL compression emulators.

I gotta know, though , which is better? This is two questions in one really . . . which is more like the original and which sounds cooler. It seems to me that sounding cool isn't neccesarily dependent on it sounding exactly like the Neve original . . .

It seems like most people like the Waves V series better than the URS Neve emulations. Can anyone tewll me some specific reasons? How are the two different? Are the URS better in any cases?

P.Cobra

The Mercury Bundle comes with the V-Series... If you don't have it I'd contact waves.

Here's the list a complete list of the Mercury bundle plugins.

[thermos]

I've said this before, but comparing the old URS A series to the Waves API is not a fair comparison.
A better comparison is the API algo in the new URS channelstrip, which is vastly superior to the old one.
I compared the Waves one and the new URS one, and I felt the URS smoked it (in smoothness and depth).

Compwise, the Waves one sounded good, but am I the only one that found it shallow sounding (no front to back)?

[wildpark]

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i heard songs

how i can feel but nothing like a good sounding but flat picture there

comes out this speaker !

i walk that way looong time but now i known what i like too become that sound huge 3d

your uad urs waves from 2d with minimum

cranesong hedd too 3d !!! better lavry blue


my 3 cent too this endless atari vs amiga game !

[jba]

has anyone here compared TritoneDigital's Classictone-56 to the Waves or URS API 560 EQs? i can't compare these plugins since i don't own the Waves or URS. Classictone-56 sounds very good to my ears, though.

[DivineMusic]

Originally Posted by Ambroise

I totally agree with you that waves is better then urs.
I was talking about creating a similar sound with the sony eq which i doubt you can (or maybe with a lot more work).
That's all

actually im real close.. i have the oxford sounding very close to the Waves Veq3(1073 emu)
im not gonna say its right on cuz its not but the artist and the manage both like the oxford eq copy more...
i like them both.
the veq3's test seem to have a little more mid lows but the oxford is cleaner...
thats why i'm hoping i made the right choice buying these plugins yesterday.
im so use to the oxfords sound that i can't find another sound that i really like...

thermos, i havent had a chance to really get into the channelstrip pro... i wanted to but like i said, i was and still am use to a certian sound from the oxford eq... aye what ever works right...
i have friends that still use Waves Q10 and have some great sounding records...

[mmcfarlane]

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

actually im real close.. i have the oxford sounding very close to the Waves Veq3(1073 emu)...

DivineMusic,

Can you share what settings you used? A particular EQ type or just fudging individual bands,...

[DivineMusic]

Originally Posted by mmcfarlane

DivineMusic,

Can you share what settings you used? A particular EQ type or just fudging individual bands,...

im at the hose right now but i know i had a rather wide q on type 3.
i mean it sounded so close but the Veq3 has a different color... and the mid lows were a little thicker but i could adjust the Q and get warmer mid lows...

[BigJunk]

But what about the new URS Channelstrip? It has the Neve and API emulations but they are supposed to be even further improved. Anyone A/B?
Junk

[Kermit]

Originally Posted by jba

has anyone here compared TritoneDigital's Classictone-56 to the Waves or URS API 560 EQs? i can't compare these plugins since i don't own the Waves or URS. Classictone-56 sounds very good to my ears, though.

I have compared Waves 560 with Classictone and Nebula Ape program, Nebula and Classictone are very close and both are better than Waves IMHO. Waves is a little 'harsher'. Nebula uses up about 25% and Classictone about 7% of my CPU, so Classictone is the preferred one for me.

[T_R_S]

URS have the double precision versions plus the UI is better than Waves.
URS has the scroll wheel UI - I LOVE IT!

[swisha31]

I like the Comp also on the API bundle. i put it on some vocals today and sounded great.


Everybody says the URS CSP has api and neve emulation. are they presets or are you going by the years that they use?

[mahasandi]

well i seem to remember that the urs a & n series
eq's might inherhit the new csp algorythym as an update
??

[PettyCash]

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

i used the demo's yesterday, i like the waves neve style plugs over the urs.
same with the api stuff, but now i feel like a dumb ass cuz i do have most of the urs eq's and dont even like using them anymore.. a waste of money...
now i gotta get the waves v series and api's... and deal with wup YUCK...

o as far as cpu went.. the waves were actually light on my cpu.. i used at least 30 of them and they didnt touch my cpu

To get some decent usage out of the URS eq plugins Im stuck with using as well, I use them on less prevailant parts of the mix, kind of like how if you were mixing totally OTB with a bunch of outboard gear, but had only a really limited number of "gem" pieces, u'd save the gems for lead parts and use all the good, but somewhat lackluster hardware processors for backing tracks.