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Old 27th September 2007   #1
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Sending multiple midi tracks to software instrument

I'm trying to send multiple midi tracks to a software instrument in Logic 8 and I seem to be missing something.

For example, I have an instance of Stylus RMX with a kick drum sound on channel one of Stylus RMX.

I would like to use a clap on channel 2 of that same instance of Stylus RMX. I created a new midi track in Logic 8, but cannot figure out how to route it to channel 2 of Stylus. Anyone know how to do this?
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Arrange window, local menu, Track->New with next MIDI channel. The track will be an instrument track, with a mirrored instance of the VI (not another instance, no more resources used). It will allow you to change the MIDI channel being addressed without altering the original, which a COPY of that would do, if tried. So, once you create "new with next MIDI channel," yu are able to change that MIDI channel. IOW, if you have the Instrument track addressing channel 1 now, and want one to address, say, channel 10, create as described, then change the new track from channel 2 to 10. Original traqck will remain untouched/unchanged.
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How can i make a new track with same instrument (so only one instance is opened) but with different channel settings?
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How can i make a new track with same instrument (so only one instance is opened) but with different channel settings?
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How can i make a new track with same instrument (so only one instance is opened) but with different channel settings?
Exactly as I described.
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Nikki-k, THANK YOU
Very welcome!
I love this new feature. Discovering all the things they did so we do not have to have this uber-template as an autoload is incredible. Leaving the environment for those of us that want to play with it for the more advanced stuff is even better. I have not tried it yet, but if layer import is doing well, I will be VERY happy (it was glitchy for me, and others, prior to L8).
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Exactly as I described.
this doesnt work,, when creating next instr track,,, it copys the same channel setting,..
so when i change the settings (levels panning plugs etc) on one track,, the other channel changes as well. SO both have the same settings.

i want to use the same instrument, but then on 2 channels with different channels settings,,,, maybe this is impossible, but who knows
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It sounds like you want a multi instrument. Click the '+' symbol in the arrange view, select multi-timbral, and specify 8 tracks (for Stylus RMX). Make sure you load the multi-out version. You can then click on each of the created tracks and see the midi channels that they correspond to.
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this doesnt work,, when creating next instr track,,, it copys the same channel setting,..
so when i change the settings (levels panning plugs etc) on one track,, the other channel changes as well. SO both have the same settings.

i want to use the same instrument, but then on 2 channels with different channels settings,,,, maybe this is impossible, but who knows
It epends on what you are referring to, and what you are trying to do. It might simply be that you are trying to say one thing, but another is being interpretted from what you say. I will try to interpet a little, and see if one is what you are looking for...

When you say "channel setting," are you referring ONLY to the actual audio output portion of the Instrument track? If so, then what you desire can ONLY be accomplished if the VI you insert is multi-OUTPUT capable. IOW, if you insert EXS24, you must choose the EXS24 multi-output version. Then you would need to assign say, MIDI channel 1 to patch number 1, and then assign the outputs for that to EXS output stereo pair 1. Next, assign another patch to EXS MIDI channel 2, and assign the output of that patch to output stereo pair number 2. Then you click the "+" sign on the channel strip with EXS on it, and that Aux will now be for patch/MIDI channel number 2, and you can adjust/effect the audio output as you wish.

The only thing the "new track with next MIDI channel" will do is give you another Instrument track, basically a duplicate of the original, but set ot the next MIDI channel as the "target" for the MIDI it produces. You can also change the MIDI channel it is sending to, without affecting the original. However, as it is still the same, exact "audio output section" as the original, anything you do to the audio section of that INstrument track will be mirrored.

Makes sense?

The one thing I wish they would have done is had a Multi-Timbral environment object be created if the user desired, and thus when they create an actual MIDI track in the Arrange window, those extra MIDI channels would be available as MIDI destination assignments. The Instrument track is cool, but IMO, it is overkill, and easily misunderstood...as I believe it has been in this case. A perfect example of that actually I think.
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