Flipping Phase

[bexarametric]

My biggest gripe about 7 was that I had to open up the gain plugin to invert phase. I think I saw a phase button on the mixer in Logic 8. Can someone confirm this for me?

[bexarametric]

anyone?

[Lagerfeldt]

Sorry

[Jazzpunk]

Originally Posted by bexarametric

My biggest gripe about 7 was that I had to open up the gain plugin to invert phase. I think I saw a phase button on the mixer in Logic 8. Can someone confirm this for me?

Still the same. How does it work in the DAW you are currently using?

[china jam]

Originally Posted by bexarametric

My biggest gripe about 7 was that I had to open up the gain plugin to invert phase.

You sound sooooo lazy!

[Phobos]

Build your own template with a gainplug on the first slot on every channel. Have the switch phase button on on inside the plug and the plug bypassed. If you need to switch phase just alt+click the plug in the mixer.

[bexarametric]

Originally Posted by china jam

You sound sooooo lazy!

Not really. But it is as important as a mute or solo button. I suppose I could make a template. But them, making a button would still make more sense. It's a standard feature in Cubase.

[bexarametric]

Originally Posted by Jazzpunk

Still the same. How does it work in the DAW you are currently using?

I am using Logic 7.

[Jazzpunk]

Originally Posted by bexarametric

Not really. But it is as important as a mute or solo button. I suppose I could make a template. But them, making a button would still make more sense. It's a standard feature in Cubase.

That was a really grumpy way of saying, 'DOH! Good idea.'

[redroom]

Use the sonalksis free G

[Græmatter Audio]

Originally Posted by Phobos

Build your own template with a gainplug on the first slot on every channel. Have the switch phase button on on inside the plug and the plug bypassed. If you need to switch phase just alt+click the plug in the mixer.

This person wins at Logic

[H-Rezz]

Originally Posted by bexarametric

Not really. But it is as important as a mute or solo button. I suppose I could make a template. But them, making a button would still make more sense. It's a standard feature in Cubase.

As important as mute and solo ? why and how many time times are you flipping the phase ? It makes more sense to me with a plug-in instead of cluttering your channel fader for something you do not need all the time on every channel ....YMMV

[Mic Stand Bob]

I love the phase switch in cubase... I use it so much i have no clue why it isn't standard on protools and logic. The phase switch is very important when tracking anytime you have more than one mic on a source. of course you have your phase switches on your hardware when tracking... but it is so handy to have it in the Daw to make phase decisions quick (if your outboard gear isn't reachable from the monitoring sweet spot... it can be very annoying to make phase decisions with the mic pre phase switch. Especially when you are repeating the process many times to get all the drum mics to work together the best.

Darrell

[Lagerfeldt]

I think wanting a phase flip (polarity switch actually) is very much dependent on why type of music you're doing.

If you're mostly programming and recording vocal and the odd guitar you're not likely to want it there, cluttering up the interface.

If you're doing rock stuff, recording multiple tracks of drums etc. you'd probably want it there.

[H-Rezz]

Originally Posted by Mic Stand Bob

I love the phase switch in cubase... I use it so much i have no clue why it isn't standard on protools and logic.

Darrell

That's why the faders in both Logic8 and P.Tools don't look like a Piccaso painting

[china jam]

Originally Posted by Mic Stand Bob

I love the phase switch in cubase...

You love phase switches?? You're easy to please.

[bexarametric]

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

I think wanting a phase flip (polarity switch actually) is very much dependent on why type of music you're doing.

If you're mostly programming and recording vocal and the odd guitar you're not likely to want it there, cluttering up the interface.

If you're doing rock stuff, recording multiple tracks of drums etc. you'd probably want it there.

That's exactly my point. If I'm recording drums, I'm flipping phase a lot. If you're making a trance track, it's probably is a useless feature. I also put a lot of mics on my guitar cabs.

[HockeyMike]

I was hoping this would show up too in L8. I made a channel strip preset with just the gain plug reversed so it was easier to call up (as long as nothing else was already on the inserts), but yeah...for mic'ed up music it's an important button.

[timtoonz]

my drum template uses the Waves SSL channel strip on every track -- handy for phase (and lots of other things). At least Im glad more plugins these days are including phase switches, like the URS eq's and UAD's excellent Neve 88RS channel strip.

Overall though, I agree that Logic "Pro" should make more of an effort to duplicate the functionality of a 'real' pro mixer. While the phase button would be nice, I was even more disappointed they didn't add anything similar to Cubase/Nuendo's "control room" section where you can set up custom headphone and monitor mixes. I hate having to build all that crap myself with the environment 'toolkit'.

[redstudio]

I agree, this is not an uncommon want or need to have on a DAW program. I've aways wondered why they didn't put a phase switch any where handy. It is very practical for us live recording engineers...