Lindy firewire expresscard, the end of PC laptop firewire probs?

soapdodger · 15th September 2007, 09:49 AM

Found this the other day, has a Texas Instruments chipset. Has anyone tried one?

http://www.lindy.com/uk/productnews/...Card/index.php

jcschild · 15th September 2007, 04:25 PM

HI,
adding a TI chipset card to a poor chipset laptop does NOT fix the issues.

if you have ricoh,ENE, Orange Micro (with Express slot) you are hosed

adding good after bad does not help the bad

Scott
ADK

theblue1 · 15th September 2007, 04:38 PM

My first thought was, BS, but then I saw who was posting... (and I have no direct knowledge of the particulars.

)

Why is that, Scott?

I've never heard that before but you have a lot of credibility with me...

jcschild · 15th September 2007, 06:02 PM

Hey Blue,
thanks!

heres the deal alot of interface wil not be recognised by a poor chipset.
Presonus/focusrite/Mackie come to mind.

adding the TI chipset Express slot card will then allow these units to finally work.

however and here is the biggy.

when the original chipset is bad (the ones i mentioned, and only applies to newer Express card slot/dual core not older single core)

its performance is poor. EG the lowest buffer you might see is 512

its like trying to shove water from an 8" water pipe (bandwidth ability of TI chipset) thru a 1" water pipe (bandwidth ability of the poor chipset)

a proper chipset (TI) thats NATIVE on the laptop will alow for as low as 64 buffer.

its kinda like having a Lynx card then using a behringer mic pre (only in reverse)
or hooking up a Benchmark/Mytec to a sound blaster....

we went thru alot of laptops before we finally found a few good ones (even became Apple dealers over this)

obviously we tried using TI add in cards to no avail. (at least not what we consider acceptable)

Scott
ADK

soapdodger · 16th September 2007, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcschild

HI,
adding a TI chipset card to a poor chipset laptop does NOT fix the issues.

if you have ricoh,ENE, Orange Micro (with Express slot) you are hosed

adding good after bad does not help the bad

Scott
ADK

how about with an intel 945pm chipset?

MT Groove · 17th September 2007, 07:03 AM

So is there an expresscard firewire adapter that works?

jcschild · 17th September 2007, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soapdodger

how about with an intel 945pm chipset?

HI the 945 is the norfthbridge chipset (main chipset)
i am talking about the chipset used for Express slot/cardbus (if there is one) firewire, card reader etc. (this is the secondary chipset)

more on it here laptop issues

Scott
ADK

jcschild · 17th September 2007, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT Groove

So is there an expresscard firewire adapter that works?

again trying to add good after bad! so no not really.

Scott

soapdodger · 17th September 2007, 06:03 PM

how about an 02 micro expresscard controller?

jcschild · 17th September 2007, 07:03 PM

nope bad news
Texas Intruments its the only thing that works right
some laptops who have ENE chipset have Via firewire this is the only thing that has a hope of working 1/2 way ok.

note all this applies to newer laptops with Express slot. older single core with PCMCIA actually did ok with Ricoh, ENE. O2 Micro is Orange micro... and have always been an issue.

Scott
ADK

soapdodger · 18th September 2007, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcschild

nope bad news
Texas Intruments its the only thing that works right
some laptops who have ENE chipset have Via firewire this is the only thing that has a hope of working 1/2 way ok.

note all this applies to newer laptops with Express slot. older single core with PCMCIA actually did ok with Ricoh, ENE. O2 Micro is Orange micro... and have always been an issue.

Scott
ADK

thanks for your help, interestingly digital village in the UK use the same laptop chassis as I have for their systems. i wouldnt like to work for their tech support!

jcschild · 18th September 2007, 02:42 PM

HI,
its no better here is the US!
nearly all "DAw builders" are selling laptops with bad chipsets
aside from 1 other company (only thier 17" has TI)
i am the only one with TI chipset!

Scott
ADK

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15th September 2007, 04:25 PM	#2
jcschild Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 814	HI, adding a TI chipset card to a poor chipset laptop does NOT fix the issues. if you have ricoh,ENE, Orange Micro (with Express slot) you are hosed adding good after bad does not help the bad Scott ADK

15th September 2007, 06:02 PM	#4
jcschild Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 814	Hey Blue, thanks! heres the deal alot of interface wil not be recognised by a poor chipset. Presonus/focusrite/Mackie come to mind. adding the TI chipset Express slot card will then allow these units to finally work. however and here is the biggy. when the original chipset is bad (the ones i mentioned, and only applies to newer Express card slot/dual core not older single core) its performance is poor. EG the lowest buffer you might see is 512 its like trying to shove water from an 8" water pipe (bandwidth ability of TI chipset) thru a 1" water pipe (bandwidth ability of the poor chipset) a proper chipset (TI) thats NATIVE on the laptop will alow for as low as 64 buffer. its kinda like having a Lynx card then using a behringer mic pre (only in reverse) or hooking up a Benchmark/Mytec to a sound blaster.... we went thru alot of laptops before we finally found a few good ones (even became Apple dealers over this) obviously we tried using TI add in cards to no avail. (at least not what we consider acceptable) Scott ADK

17th September 2007, 07:03 AM	#6
MT Groove Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 157	So is there an expresscard firewire adapter that works?

17th September 2007, 06:03 PM	#9
soapdodger Gear interested Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 24	how about an 02 micro expresscard controller?

17th September 2007, 07:03 PM	#10
jcschild Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 814	nope bad news Texas Intruments its the only thing that works right some laptops who have ENE chipset have Via firewire this is the only thing that has a hope of working 1/2 way ok. note all this applies to newer laptops with Express slot. older single core with PCMCIA actually did ok with Ricoh, ENE. O2 Micro is Orange micro... and have always been an issue. Scott ADK

18th September 2007, 02:42 PM	#12
jcschild Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 814	HI, its no better here is the US! nearly all "DAw builders" are selling laptops with bad chipsets aside from 1 other company (only thier 17" has TI) i am the only one with TI chipset! Scott ADK