LOGIC 8 HERE IT IS!!!!

[vixapphire]

Originally Posted by Tibbon

I didn't know the Duet had a mini interface in it as well.

I'd assume that Apple was assuming that everyone's just going to use a USB midi controller keyboard. Not true, but that's probably the assumption.

that's what i'd assume too. for the ozone + powerbook set.

[ryanojohn]

Originally Posted by yoink

Remember that you can install Serato Pitch n' Time and Izotope Radius into Time and Pitch Machine and use those for the Timestretching.

True enough,



my biggest issue is that the Delay Compansation is still as messed up as in 7, and hasn't been worked on at all....

[ar10003]

Can anyone verfy the TDM RTAS AS support.
i have some audiosuite and tdm plugs i can run in PTools LE (vocalign) but it appears you can only use these if you have the PTools HD version - is that true.

there are some RTAS AS TDM only plugs I would love to use

[vixapphire]

Originally Posted by ryanojohn

I got it this morning... it's not THAT different from 7 internally... visually it's got a pretty makeover.

It's got the nice features from PT, like the TC/E tool, but that tool still uses the logic time stretching algorithm, and doesn't allow stretches more than 50%...

I haven't been able to find any sensitivity control for the tab to transient, but it's certainly nice to have it.

It came with all of the GB jam packs, and takes up a good 36Gb ish... it's massive.

It opens all of my Logic 7 sessions so far, and haven't had any real problems.

The only new plugin I've messed with so far is the tap delay, it's certainly neat, but nothing to write home about. The sample accurate editing in the arrange window is great though...

where you at that you had it instore today already? i've been calling music stores and apple stores in LA and no one's received jack yet.

[thermos]

Originally Posted by Matthew Murray

What did they advertise, and where?

I thought they said "Direct insert patching of external hardware instruments and effects"......


Maybe not?

[yoink]

Originally Posted by Matthew Murray

What did they advertise, and where?

Great picture/avatar Matthew!

In other news, LPS shiped via FedEx express. Should have it tomorrow - will put it on the laptop for testing and report back.

[ryanojohn]

Originally Posted by vixapphire

where you at that you had it instore today already? i've been calling music stores and apple stores in LA and no one's received jack yet.

Emeryville, CA... I do believe the san fran store has a bunch too

[Matthew Murray]

Originally Posted by thermos

I thought they said "Direct insert patching of external hardware instruments and effects"......


Maybe not?

They did say that. But with nothing mentioned in any of the official documentation, I'm getting the feeling it's either a cruel joke by a website designer, or perhaps a reference to some other feature that doesn't include latency compensation. If they bunged this up, I might actually still jump ship. It was supposed to be the one thing I was waiting to see if LP8 would incorporate... the other features look splendid, but considering we do all our work with outboard, this is becoming a pain in the yarrrrrrr....

[Jay Lee]

Oh for heaven's sake.

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by Matthew Murray

They did say that. But with nothing mentioned in any of the official documentation, I'm getting the feeling it's either a cruel joke by a website designer, or perhaps a reference to some other feature that doesn't include latency compensation. If they bunged this up, I might actually still jump ship. It was supposed to be the one thing I was waiting to see if LP8 would incorporate... the other features look splendid, but considering we do all our work with outboard, this is becoming a pain in the yarrrrrrr....

UH-OH

mmm it DOES have automatic plugin latency compensation.
the I/O plugin IS a plugin right?
and that DOES have latency...
please someone test this and report back?

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by Jay Lee

.... I don't get how people can own computers and not try to understand how they work.

oooh that's easy to accomplish.
LOL

[thermos]

Originally Posted by Matthew Murray

They did say that. But with nothing mentioned in any of the official documentation, I'm getting the feeling it's either a cruel joke by a website designer, or perhaps a reference to some other feature that doesn't include latency compensation. If they bunged this up, I might actually still jump ship. It was supposed to be the one thing I was waiting to see if LP8 would incorporate... the other features look splendid, but considering we do all our work with outboard, this is becoming a pain in the yarrrrrrr....

I agree, thats a HUUUUUGE one. I hope it works.

[Dor]

Originally Posted by ryanojohn

Emeryville, CA... I do believe the san fran store has a bunch too

I called them around noon but they didn't have the upgrades & no clue as to when they were getting them. Did you buy full retail?

D

[mixerguy]

Originally Posted by Reptil

mmm it DOES have automatic plugin latency compensation.
the I/O plugin IS a plugin right?
and that DOES have latency...
please someone test this and report back?

I made a thread for just this very info...

Logic 8 deal with outboard hardware delay compensation?

[Brian!]

can someone chime in with macbook performance later? :)

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by mixerguy

I made a thread for just this very info...

Logic 8 deal with outboard hardware delay compensation?

I saw it yes LOL

[doktahyde]

On!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Matthew Murray]

I'm thinking it's bad news, boys.

There's no way they would have built this in, and yet not tout it in the documentation.

The I/O plugin has been around forever, and so has plug-in delay compensation. It's not looking like they integrated the two, otherwise they would have bragged about it.

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by doktahyde

I recently took the Logic 101 course at Pyramind in San FranSiCKO AND i feel sort of CheATed becauSe i kickeD down likE 8 BENJi's for an 8 weeK coursE. My teacher kept dropping hints about the new upgrade it was a little more than the forums i've reAd and all the speculation. Suspicious very suspicious indeed. every week he'd tell us sumfing newe but swear he did'nt know anything. I had the opportunity t re-up for the 201 course and opted not to because of all the hints now this happens WhiCh is great but I dropped 8 of em on a defunct class and I am sort of angry I didn't know enough about the upgrade before hand to wait on the Logic EIGHT 101 class. I also dont feel like I am in an exclusive bunch anymore with the HUGE priCe drop. But Oh WeLL.. Apple is in a positioN we aLL wisH we Were in with thE abilitY to FueL speculatioN and mAke userS whosE livelihooD depend on THEM WAiT likE crazy. Glad it'S herE butWoulD sum onE frum the almighTy AppLE refund MY eIGHT laRGE for aLLowinG me to TakE a Class U knEw was to go inTo eXtinxion leSS thaN a montH aftEr coMpletion!! PM me PlayA! But YAy Tab 2 TraNsienTs Woo Hoo

p.S. aPPLe/ApogEe coRp pleaSe knocK dowN the pricE on The RoseTTA 8 hunnid and AD/DA xLInE siNce duet is so Easy to maKe! man GivE me a SoldeRing Iron and the RosettA ScheMatiCs sO i caN cakE u2. Put Me on man Put me On!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not so worthless.. it seems to me that apart from the arrange window and general interface facelift little has changed about the workflow of ... for instance, the environment -- or mixer or plugins.. it really looks like the same app.

if you've got soldering urges, you could get a behrringgner and mod the shit out of it
you'll be missing the clock, but IMO it beats scarring an expensive apogee which is already good.

or you could pass by here, got a whole bag full of cables that need resoldering

[Tibbon]

Originally Posted by ar10003

Can anyone verfy the TDM RTAS AS support.
i have some audiosuite and tdm plugs i can run in PTools LE (vocalign) but it appears you can only use these if you have the PTools HD version - is that true.

there are some RTAS AS TDM only plugs I would love to use

TDM and AS yes, RTAS no.

[pounce]

mine has shipped and i have the tracking number, so soon i'll have it in my grubby mitts.

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by Matthew Murray

I'm thinking it's bad news, boys.

There's no way they would have built this in, and yet not tout it in the documentation.

The I/O plugin has been around forever, and so has plug-in delay compensation. It's not looking like they integrated the two, otherwise they would have bragged about it.

the same shady feeling is creeping up on me...
LOL 3 years' development, fancy new rewrite, new core, new editing in arrange ... and no auto latency compensation...

but let's wait till someone tests it, before jumping to conclusions

[Dor]

I'll have my update tomorrow!! Just received my Fed Ex tracking number.

[Nu-tra]

I just got a copy from the apple store. Pasadena should have a few tomorrow. Make sure they have the right upgrade version if you are just upgrading. They have the upgrade from the big box and express too. I got a full version.

Let you know how it rocks first thing.

[Tibbon]

Originally Posted by doktahyde

I recently took the Logic 101 course at Pyramind in San FranSiCKO AND i feel sort of CheATed becauSe i kickeD down likE 8 BENJi's for an 8 weeK coursE. My teacher kept dropping hints about the new upgrade it was a little more than the forums i've reAd and all the speculation. Suspicious very suspicious indeed. every week he'd tell us sumfing newe but swear he did'nt know anything. I had the opportunity t re-up for the 201 course and opted not to because of all the hints now this happens WhiCh is great but I dropped 8 of em on a defunct class and I am sort of angry I didn't know enough about the upgrade before hand to wait on the Logic EIGHT 101 class. I also dont feel like I am in an exclusive bunch anymore with the HUGE priCe drop. But Oh WeLL.. Apple is in a positioN we aLL wisH we Were in with thE abilitY to FueL speculatioN and mAke userS whosE livelihooD depend on THEM WAiT likE crazy. Glad it'S herE butWoulD sum onE frum the almighTy AppLE refund MY eIGHT laRGE for aLLowinG me to TakE a Class U knEw was to go inTo eXtinxion leSS thaN a montH aftEr coMpletion!! PM me PlayA! But YAy Tab 2 TraNsienTs Woo Hoo

p.S. aPPLe/ApogEe coRp pleaSe knocK dowN the pricE on The RoseTTA 8 hunnid and AD/DA xLInE siNce duet is so Easy to maKe! man GivE me a SoldeRing Iron and the RosettA ScheMatiCs sO i caN cakE u2. Put Me on man Put me On!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Christ man, it would give me an mental condition to type like that.

Why the hell should Apogee knock down the price on that stuff? That's pointless. Let's be realistic people. These companies are in business.

If they are so easy to make, then make you own converters. People have done it. Apogee is just people.

800 for an 8 week course seems like a deal to me. My company gives training sessions and they are about $650/day/person. On a different technology, but still.

If you can't apply what you learned in a Logic 7 class to Logic 8, then you didn't learn very well. It's an upgrade, not a totally different beast. Your sense of paranoia towards your teacher, or that he was scamming you is totally unfounded. Maybe he was writing a book on Logic 8 and was under an NDA. Do you think he'd give up his publishing deal, breach an NDA, stop training or get sued just do you could have the "inside scoop" or feel like you got more for your money? Forget it man.

If your livelyhood depended on Logic 8 vs Logic 7, then I'd say you weren't a very good engineer to begin with, and are likely needing to find another career. It's just a tool. There's no exclusivity. There is no club. Any such concepts are grand delusions.

Why should Apple not let you take a training class? It's business. It's money. It's investors. It only makes sense. Apple isn't going to announce and say, "EVERYONE STOP THE PRESSES. NO MORE TRAINING". The training course was $800. It's not much money. Stop whining. Don't act like you think that technology freezes when you buy it.

Get a grip, grow up and grow some, and learn to type like a decent human being. Please find a new career, because if I came into a studio and someone who talked like you type was the engineer, assistant or even intern I would walk out.

[Animus]

Originally Posted by peeder

Only if the crackers can't get MacOS X running on their PC first...

already done and working good if you do your research apparently,

Main Page - OSx86

[harry_seldon]

I am finishing my install as I type.

[raydo]

Originally Posted by doktahyde

I recently took the Logic 101 course at Pyramind in San FranSiCKO AND i feel sort of CheATed becauSe i kickeD down likE 8 BENJi's for an 8 weeK coursE. My teacher kept dropping hints about the new upgrade it was a little more than the forums i've reAd and all the speculation. Suspicious very suspicious indeed. every week he'd tell us sumfing newe but swear he did'nt know anything. I had the opportunity t re-up for the 201 course and opted not to because of all the hints now this happens WhiCh is great but I dropped 8 of em on a defunct class and I am sort of angry I didn't know enough about the upgrade before hand to wait on the Logic EIGHT 101 class. I also dont feel like I am in an exclusive bunch anymore with the HUGE priCe drop. But Oh WeLL.. Apple is in a positioN we aLL wisH we Were in with thE abilitY to FueL speculatioN and mAke userS whosE livelihooD depend on THEM WAiT likE crazy. Glad it'S herE butWoulD sum onE frum the almighTy AppLE refund MY eIGHT laRGE for aLLowinG me to TakE a Class U knEw was to go inTo eXtinxion leSS thaN a montH aftEr coMpletion!! PM me PlayA! But YAy Tab 2 TraNsienTs Woo Hoo

p.S. aPPLe/ApogEe coRp pleaSe knocK dowN the pricE on The RoseTTA 8 hunnid and AD/DA xLInE siNce duet is so Easy to maKe! man GivE me a SoldeRing Iron and the RosettA ScheMatiCs sO i caN cakE u2. Put Me on man Put me On!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STRAIGHT UP THIS IS THE
BEST LAUGH OF THE DAY

[theblotted]

Originally Posted by Jay Lee

To all those people who are crying about it not being 64bit and thus no more than 4Gb RAM in use... It can't be 64bit before Apple releases Leopard. I don't get how people can own computers and not try to understand how they work.

if this is directed at me; i don't recall anybody crying about no 64bits. is it official?

it's still a question that holds validity, whether Apple is going to do this or not. FYI, Tiger can/did do 64bit calculation. it's the App's implementation of 64bit into the OS that makes the difference.
Apple - Mac OS X - 64-bit

if i'm not understanding it right, perhaps you can share with us properly your understanding of it.

the only "real" indication that it will be 64bit is from oscwilde @ Sonikmatter, whom from his posts seems to know his stuff.. tho i can't find any official word from Apple.

...yet.

[doktahyde]

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