Apogee Duet, professional two-channel firewire audio interface for the Mac - Page 11

rectifier · 3rd October 2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Realtugs

Makes it seem like it is only available from within Apple applications, no? How far in bed are they here?

Interesting.

Check the thread title

rectifier · 3rd October 2007, 03:56 PM

Although i guess there are other non Apple applications that run on mac.. so you do have a point..

*erases self*

findingtheSound · 3rd October 2007, 03:58 PM

To Realbugs:

Yes, cause clock is as important as converters for me.
So, Max are you here? What about the duet's clock?
Thanx for your answer

Realtugs · 3rd October 2007, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rectifier

Although i guess there are other non Apple applications that run on mac.. so you do have a point..

*erases self*

Exactly!

dkatz42 · 3rd October 2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dsound

Cool. Could I also use it in the spare FW400 plug in the Glyph? I'd rather do that than buy a FW hub.

Should work...

findingtheSound · 3rd October 2007, 08:05 PM

So, what about the duet's clock?

Realtugs · 3rd October 2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by findingtheSound

So, what about the duet's clock?

Hi,

If you look at post #300 in this thread, I gave my opinion about the 'intelliclock' situation. I don't know for certain that it isn't in the Duet, but I am suspecting it isn't. The bit I quoted from the manual on Sample Rates is where I would have expected to find it mentioned. I suspect it isn't there because there are no digital ins and outs. They will probably say it is some new clock based on intelliclock.

I've since done a word search through the entire manual for 'intelliclock' and even just 'clock'...instances found of either...Zero! I don't think it is there. Just my opinion, though. We'll have to wait for Max to clarify.
All the best.

Max · 3rd October 2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by findingtheSound

So, what about the duet's clock?

Comparable clock circuitry to Ensemble. We can't make a box that sounds this good without a good clock.

Matt Fudge · 3rd October 2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Max

We can't make a box that sounds this good without a good clock.

This is what I've been assuming... It doesn't matter what name they put on it, if it sounds good, it sounds good! One question though. Can you reclock it using Audio/Midi Setup by aggregeating it to the Built-In audio in the mac and clocking the built in audio to external source by SPDIF and setting the new aggregeated devices clock source to the built in audio? (whew, hope that makes sense!)

Realtugs · 3rd October 2007, 10:19 PM

So there you go...

Not a..."new clock based on intelliclock," but a, "Comparable clock circuitry to Ensemble."

Thanks Max. One other question. Does the Apogee Control Panel appear in all Core Audio applications, or just, "Apple's Logic Pro and GarageBand," as the manual suggests?

Thanks again!

Realtugs · 3rd October 2007, 10:27 PM

Thats a good question, Matt.

I'm going to guess that it will follow what the application you're using is reading...in your example...the S/PDIF of the Built-In Audio.

Just a guess...great question. Oh, Max?

findingtheSound · 4th October 2007, 08:09 PM

Thanx for the answers! can't wait now!

Dubnick · 5th October 2007, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max

Comparable clock circuitry to Ensemble. We can't make a box that sounds this good without a good clock.

Technically, apples are comparable to oranges, but they are clearly not the same thing. This statement seems intentionally vague - any elaboration?

pjo · 6th October 2007, 05:38 AM

just got an e-mail saying that sweetwater won't be getting a shipment of duets for another two and a half weeks.

Egopanic · 6th October 2007, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pjo

just got an e-mail saying that sweetwater won't be getting a shipment of duets for another two and a half weeks.

Oh man, that sucks! I think I will reorder my Motu Ultralite since I cannot wait that long.

Could you please confirm this Max?

Vunz · 6th October 2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pjo

just got an e-mail saying that sweetwater won't be getting a shipment of duets for another two and a half weeks.

And I just received an email from Playback-Europe (a French online store) that mine has been shipped... See http://www.playback-europe.com/apogee-duet-18471.html Where they state they have the Duet in stock.

Why should a European store have a US product in stock earlier than a US store?

Cheers,
Vincent

Matt Fudge · 6th October 2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vunz

Why should a European store have a US product in stock earlier than a US store?

hmmm... that's a good question

Vocalvoodoo · 6th October 2007, 03:32 PM

Could it be that there was a large amount of pre-orders and Sweetwater is waiting for a second shipment as the first has been shipped to customers already?

In any case, I haven't heard from Mercenary about mine being shipped yet, so I'm assuming the above is not that case. The suspense is killing me!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vunz

And I just received an email from Playback-Europe (a French online store) that mine has been shipped... See Apogee Duet Playback 396 € Exc VAT Where they state they have the Duet in stock.

Why should a European store have a US product in stock earlier than a US store?

Cheers,
Vincent

Egopanic · 6th October 2007, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vunz

And I just received an email from Playback-Europe (a French online store) that mine has been shipped... See Apogee Duet Playback 396 € Exc VAT Where they state they have the Duet in stock.

Why should a European store have a US product in stock earlier than a US store?

Cheers,
Vincent

Thanks for the info. Please let us know when you got it! I would immediately buy it there...

Egopanic · 6th October 2007, 08:23 PM

I think the question of wheter or not an aggregated Macbook Pro device will have additional latency has not been answered yet. Does anybody know? I would say yes, correct?

Max · 7th October 2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubnick

Technically, apples are comparable to oranges, but they are clearly not the same thing. This statement seems intentionally vague - any elaboration?

Quality is the same.

SFTPH · 7th October 2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Egopanic

I think the question of wheter or not an aggregated Macbook Pro device will have additional latency has not been answered yet. Does anybody know? I would say yes, correct?

not on my MBP C2D

Egopanic · 8th October 2007, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SFTPH

not on my MBP C2D

Cool, thanks for the info!

GUAL · 8th October 2007, 12:56 PM

Hi there

I have 2 questions about the Duet

1. This link News shows, that you have " instrument amplifier " as an output option. does that mean you can use Duet as an re-amp device ? Converting line output to Hi-Z / low level.

2. This link http://www.mhsecure.com/technotes/TechNote_0002.php shows, how to use a Mac only interface, in windows under parallels, on a intel Mac.
Is this possible, with the Duet ?

Im allready sold to this unit, but if the answers are yes - im ordering now :-)

@Max - Like so many others here, im hoping that you`ll make a interface - to bridge the gap between The Duet and the ensemble.

Cheers Torben

Soundone · 8th October 2007, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFTPH

not on my MBP C2D

What kind of latency are you getting on your Macbook?

milliseconds round-trip latency with sample rate, buffer size, and DAW program would be very helpful!

Thanks

Vocalvoodoo · 8th October 2007, 05:53 PM

Any definitive word yet on the actual release?

kevinc · 8th October 2007, 06:14 PM

Max how are the mic pres ?

Seems like a lot of stuff jammed into a $500 price tag but it`s great that you pulled it off.

Ashermusic · 8th October 2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kevinc

Max how are the mic pres ?

Seems like a lot of stuff jammed into a $500 price tag but it`s great that you pulled it off.

Max told me that they are the same mic-pres that are in the Ensemble and they are quite good.

SteveE9C6 · 8th October 2007, 09:06 PM

First... congrats to Apogee on what appears to be a very nice product. I'm not a Mac user though and don't see myself ever buying one. I remain puzzled at the lack of Win XP drivers. My understanding of the market is that at this price point, the Windows market is huge. Is Apogee simply not interested in the windows market? I mean the Apple/Windows wars are so.... yesterday.

kevinc · 8th October 2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashermusic

Max told me that they are the same mic-pres that are in the Ensemble and they are quite good.

Nice !

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3rd October 2007, 03:56 PM	#302
rectifier Gear addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Belgica Posts: 414	Although i guess there are other non Apple applications that run on mac.. so you do have a point.. erases self

3rd October 2007, 03:58 PM	#303
findingtheSound Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 10	To Realbugs: Yes, cause clock is as important as converters for me. So, Max are you here? What about the duet's clock? Thanx for your answer

3rd October 2007, 08:05 PM	#306
findingtheSound Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 10	So, what about the duet's clock?

3rd October 2007, 10:19 PM	#310
Realtugs Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 448	So there you go... Not a..."new clock based on intelliclock," but a, "Comparable clock circuitry to Ensemble." Thanks Max. One other question. Does the Apogee Control Panel appear in all Core Audio applications, or just, "Apple's Logic Pro and GarageBand," as the manual suggests? Thanks again!

3rd October 2007, 10:27 PM	#311
Realtugs Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 448	Thats a good question, Matt. I'm going to guess that it will follow what the application you're using is reading...in your example...the S/PDIF of the Built-In Audio. Just a guess...great question. Oh, Max?

4th October 2007, 08:09 PM	#312
findingtheSound Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 10	Thanx for the answers! can't wait now!

6th October 2007, 08:23 PM	#320
Egopanic Gear Head Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 47	I think the question of wheter or not an aggregated Macbook Pro device will have additional latency has not been answered yet. Does anybody know? I would say yes, correct?

8th October 2007, 12:56 PM	#324
GUAL Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 1	Hi there I have 2 questions about the Duet 1. This link News shows, that you have " instrument amplifier " as an output option. does that mean you can use Duet as an re-amp device ? Converting line output to Hi-Z / low level. 2. This link http://www.mhsecure.com/technotes/TechNote_0002.php shows, how to use a Mac only interface, in windows under parallels, on a intel Mac. Is this possible, with the Duet ? Im allready sold to this unit, but if the answers are yes - im ordering now :-) @Max - Like so many others here, im hoping that you`ll make a interface - to bridge the gap between The Duet and the ensemble. Cheers Torben

8th October 2007, 09:06 PM	#329
SteveE9C6 Gear maniac Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 162	First... congrats to Apogee on what appears to be a very nice product. I'm not a Mac user though and don't see myself ever buying one. I remain puzzled at the lack of Win XP drivers. My understanding of the market is that at this price point, the Windows market is huge. Is Apogee simply not interested in the windows market? I mean the Apple/Windows wars are so.... yesterday.