Crossfade problems in PT!!

[Ruudman]

...Plus searched DUC and Answerbase of course.

Right in the middle of a mix

[Stick]

Is it creating fade regions when you try it? Does it do the same thing on another session? Did you throw away your "Fade Files" folder?

Are you using command-F, or the Keyboard focus "f"? Either way, hit command-F once and see what your default fade is.

Sounds like something tweakier than that though...

[Ruudman]

I get the "Adjust boundries?" dialog screen, click OK, and then
- NADA, no fades........
I use the smart tool option, and no matter how large my selection is, PT says it's too small to crossfade.
I'm clueless............................

[Stick]

Hmmm... never learned to get quick with the smart tool... what if you try it the old fashioned way... command-F?

Same on all sessions?

[Ruudman]

Got the goods by Monte at DUC.
Thanks anyway for answering.

I should have been better at key commands, though.
To lazy, I suppose

[doug_hti]

I hate to say this, but if you are in a real bind, just try and reimport the tracks into a new session, and COPY the Source audio, don't refer to it....

Also, you may want to delete areas near the fade, then scroll them back together and try to create the fades if you haven't already

[Stick]

So, what was it?

[djui5]

This is not a bug, but instead it's operator error.

The audio files have to overlap in order to make a crossfade. If the end of the outpoint file is butted against the start of the inpoint file, there is no overlapping audio, so there is nothing there to crossfade with. The reason I know that this is happening is that you get the 'adjust boundaries' dialog when your requested fade extends before the beginning of the inpoint region's file and/or past the end of the outpoint region's file. If you get no fade at all, that must mean that the end time of the outpoint audio's file is equal to (or less than) the beginning time of the inpoint audio's file.

I got a session in to mix like this one time - some guy did a bunch of overdubs on his 001 rig, but all the files were essentially butted next to each other, so it was impossible to crossfade them. They had no overlap at all, so only a butt edit is possible. Not that there was a single fade file in the whole session, mind you, but a whole lotta clicks... I guess nobody told him about crossfades, or what happens when you punch inside of a tape machine...

The way you prevent this is to track differently, so that where you expect to make an edit, there's at least a little overlap available. Set your punch in point a little before the end of the track you're going to cut out of. Print enough audio to extend into the next region. It's only a little extra hard disk space, and it makes things a lot easier.

At this point, all you can do is scrounge for some 'room tone' to paste over the butt edits and make a pair of fades, one to go into the room tone and one to come out of it. It shouldn't be too tough to find some 'tone' from each track you need to cut, but yes, it is tedious.

Slap the person on the wrist who printed these tracks!! If it's you, then now you know...


Regards,

-monte-


Here you go...

[Stick]

Oh yeah, of course. I always punch manually, so I'm always getting the audio from where I start playback, and punch out and let it roll for a sec to get that bit too. If you're using pre-roll with an auto-punch point you're good too.

Also, we're assuming you don't have Destructive Record enabled. That would be silly.

[PVAUDIO]

Bumpin' This...

I'm having issues with crossfades in protools.

When i zoom and make a fade, it creates the Box with the "X" through it, but it is to the right of were I clicked and it does not draw the waveform.

It only does this in one session. I tried deleting the fades folder, thinking it might be a corrupt fade file. No luck.

At one point it would crash my session when i tried to delete the incorrect fade I made. Doesn't seem to do it anymore though.

Any Tips?

[superwack]

Try going to the task manager to see if it's hung up on something - sometimes PT has just cued the fades behind whatever it's stuck on... if you delete or at least pause the task, the fades should draw as usual.

The other thing is disk allocation - I've had the disk switch to a "T" transfer drive and thus pro tools can't figure out how to draw fades to that drive.

Hope that helps.