Protools HD Hardware Insert

barryjohns · 10th June 2007

I have an HD system, but as of now, I only have 1 UA 1176LN. So what I've been doing for tracks that I don't compress on the way in, is the following:

Example:

Insert 1176 on Recorded Track 1
Track Output Set to Bus 17
Track 1 fader at Unity Gain

Track 2 input set to Bus 17
Track 2 Record Enabled
Hit Record

This of course is sending the compressed track to a new track to record.

Got it, ok.

Now latency is 93 samples on Track 1 with the 1176 Insert activated; ADC is on. After I record the Compressed Track 1 to new Track 2, do I need to nudge Track 2 at all or is Protools HD taking care of this?

Now, I'd love to own 10 1176's, maybe later, but 1 will have to do for now.

FWIW, I love UAD plugs, but there is no comparison from the Plug-in to the real 1176, to my ears at least.

nlc201 · 10th June 2007

PT should take care of it with delay compensation. You can verify this by zooming in on the waveforms and making sure they match up. They'll be slightly different but it should still be easy to tell when you're very zoomed in. Another way to verify is simply to play the original with the compressed at the same time. If you hear comb filtering, they're not time aligned properly.

thethrillfactor · 10th June 2007

In the I/O setup page you have to check the box that compensates for I/O recording.

E Sharp · 31st December 2009

Is there a way in which I can listen to only the effected audio track and not the source material? I have the basic concept all applied and understood this is the last step.

PlatinumSamples · 31st December 2009

If you want ADC to work as designed, you need to use hardware inserts - in other words, patch the 1176 in using I/O inserts in the same location in Pro Tools where you put plug-ins.

Rail

psycho_monkey · 31st December 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumSamples

If you want ADC to work as designed, you need to use hardware inserts - in other words, patch the 1176 in using I/O inserts in the same location in Pro Tools where you put plug-ins.

Rail

...and then buss internally to a new track to record the audio. Same result, adc works.

10th June 2007	#1
barryjohns Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,054 Thread Starter	Protools HD Hardware Insert I have an HD system, but as of now, I only have 1 UA 1176LN. So what I've been doing for tracks that I don't compress on the way in, is the following: Example: Insert 1176 on Recorded Track 1 Track Output Set to Bus 17 Track 1 fader at Unity Gain Track 2 input set to Bus 17 Track 2 Record Enabled Hit Record This of course is sending the compressed track to a new track to record. Got it, ok. Now latency is 93 samples on Track 1 with the 1176 Insert activated; ADC is on. After I record the Compressed Track 1 to new Track 2, do I need to nudge Track 2 at all or is Protools HD taking care of this? Now, I'd love to own 10 1176's, maybe later, but 1 will have to do for now. FWIW, I love UAD plugs, but there is no comparison from the Plug-in to the real 1176, to my ears at least.

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10th June 2007	#2
nlc201 Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 532	PT should take care of it with delay compensation. You can verify this by zooming in on the waveforms and making sure they match up. They'll be slightly different but it should still be easy to tell when you're very zoomed in. Another way to verify is simply to play the original with the compressed at the same time. If you hear comb filtering, they're not time aligned properly.

10th June 2007	#3
thethrillfactor Gear Guru Joined: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 14,177	In the I/O setup page you have to check the box that compensates for I/O recording.

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E Sharp Gear interested Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 8	Is there a way in which I can listen to only the effected audio track and not the source material? I have the basic concept all applied and understood this is the last step.