NEW MAC BOOK PRO'S

[Geert van den Berg]

Santa Rosa chipset, LED backlit displays....

Apple - MacBook Pro

I'll order as soon as I can

[Roger Starr]

Pretty cool, I would go for the 'cheapest'. I don't the extra bugs for the 2.4 or the 17" are worth it. The 2.2 with a 7200rpm HD is just more then great enough I think...

I'll wait for Booth Camp fully released and maybe LogicPro 7.3/7.4/7.5 or whatever it will be...

Regards,

Roger

[Geert van den Berg]

I ordered the middle one... 2.4Ghz, 15,4'' display...

[stereobot]

hope you got the 7200 RPM HD in it! thats worth the extra little cash!

.. if you have Apple Max out the RAM when you order it, it costs an extra $750 !!! what a joke.

I love the backlit keys.

I still love my 12" 1.33ghz machine. Its a bit limited, but I love the size. 15.4" is a bit too big.. I am threatened by it.

[Geert van den Berg]

Originally Posted by stereobot

hope you got the 7200 RPM HD in it! thats worth the extra little cash!

No I haven't, and you know why? Because I was so thrilled I had it ordered before I could even blink with my eyes... Hmm, maybe I'll give them a call tomorrow to change for a faster drive, on the other hand, a fast drive might be important when recording audio, but then I would usually pair it with an external drive, so then having a slower internal drive might make it a little quieter, anyway I hope so, I hate computer noise...

Hmm I also see it has a longer delivery time with the faster disk...

[Broken]

Is it just me or is the base model a real bargin for us audio guys?

[FFTT]

For the A/V guys, the new 17" has a new High Definition display upgrade available.

Hopefully the price of 3rd party Apple approved RAM will come down soon
enough so you can take advantage of the new 4 GB RAM capability.

Those single 2 GB sticks are still out of reach for many people.

Overall, it looks like a nice kit for audio applications.

It will be interesting to see how it does on operating temperatures and fan noise
with the new GPU.

You may also note that the Superdrive is dual layer.

[entropy]

Ordered the middle one and went upto the 7200rpm

Let's hope it doesn't take too long to get here

[amost]

What's the main difference? 2.4GHz insead of 2.16?

[zaczac]

Originally Posted by amost

What's the main difference? 2.4GHz insead of 2.16?

I suppose that depends on your definition of "main". It could be:
LED screen (haven't seen yet but apparently good + longer battery life)
faster internal drive option
4gig of ram
santa rosa chipset up to 2.4
17" display upgrade.

[cletus]

Of course I just get my 2.33 w/ 3gigs of ram (refurbed $2,150 total) MBP today. F_it though, I think I'm just gonna stick with it. There's always something newer just around the corner besides I wont have to deal with the inevitable bugs with a new release. Figures though does'nt it.

[Roger Starr]

Originally Posted by Broken

Is it just me or is the base model a real bargin for us audio guys?

Yes, the middle one and the 17" are not worth it according to my opinion. If you put the first one with a 7200rpm drive it's just a very great machine and if you even put 4GB RAM you have a total killer for no further needs at all!!! Really, you can do whatever you want on a machine like that. Get an extra external 7200RPM Lacie 500 GB drive and you're rolling recording as many audio as you want including plugs etc. etc.

Regards,

Roger

[goldphinga]

Originally Posted by cletus

Of course I just get my 2.33 w/ 3gigs of ram (refurbed $2,150 total) MBP today. F_it though, I think I'm just gonna stick with it. There's always something newer just around the corner besides I wont have to deal with the inevitable bugs with a new release. Figures though does'nt it.

Stick with it. From experience all the new apple computers ive bought from the first few of a brand new batch have been lemons. maybe im just unlucky but its happened too many times to just be a fluke.

[joshelevator]

Originally Posted by goldphinga

Stick with it. From experience all the new apple computers ive bought from the first few of a brand new batch have been lemons. maybe im just unlucky but its happened too many times to just be a fluke.

i agree

[Mike O]

Originally Posted by FFTT

It will be interesting to see how it does on operating temperatures and fan noise
with the new GPU.

I'd be interested to hear from folks re: these two issues when they receive their new toys. Thanks in advance!

[T_R_S]

Originally Posted by FFTT

Those single 2 GB sticks are still out of reach for many people.

2 GB Apple laptop RAM sticks are under $150.00 each

[StefanColson]

I'm posting on one as we speak. The LED screen is brighter and is supposed to improve battery life a good bit. I've yet to do anything too serious on here, but the fan has been pretty quiet, and the computer has yet to get hotter than "warm".

They're in stock in all of the apple stores, albeit only with the matte screen, and without the 7200rpm drive. I'll probably just leave things as they are, seeing as almost all of the transfer intensive stuff I'm doing will be via FW800 drives.

[Beastie]

so does this mean the 2.33mhz macbookpros can nowtake 4 ig of ram or they still on 3 gig?

peace

ps very disappointed with my macbookpro

lots of problems!

:(

[Mike O]

Originally Posted by Beastie

so does this mean the 2.33mhz macbookpros can nowtake 4 ig of ram or they still on 3 gig?

peace

ps very disappointed with my macbookpro

lots of problems!

:(

At the risk of inviting what others may view as a hijack I would be most interested in what model you have and what kind of problems you experienced. I have heard about lots of screen and heating problems but little else.

I am seriously thinking about one of these running Bootcamp (I need both Op systems to run different software) once it is out of beta with the new OS.

[hangman]

I just got my MBP in the mail today! I'm REALLY pleased coming from my 1.5ghz G4.
the Display is really clean, and very bright.
I haven't done anything serious audiowise with it... mostly just been installing software and such. I'm excited to finally have a laptop that wont choke when using 6 channels of audio with a couple plug-ins and 3 audio instruments.
I've heard that the MBPs performance rivals the dual G5s of similar speeds
in which case my laptop will do anything my desktop throws at it.

as much as I liked my 12inch powerbook, the extra display area is much appreciated...

[dkatz42]

I discovered recently (and was quite pleasantly surprised) to find that my "antique" MBP (2.33) could handle 24 tracks of 24/96 coming off of a FW pocket drive. The overall load is indeed similar to what my dual 2GHz G5 was capable of. Not bad for a laptoy.

[morebutter]

Originally Posted by dkatz42

I discovered recently (and was quite pleasantly surprised) to find that my "antique" MBP (2.33) could handle 24 tracks of 24/96 coming off of a FW pocket drive. The overall load is indeed similar to what my dual 2GHz G5 was capable of. Not bad for a laptoy.

What speed is the drive? 7200rpm?

[morebutter]

Originally Posted by Mike O

At the risk of inviting what others may view as a hijack I would be most interested in what model you have and what kind of problems you experienced. I have heard about lots of screen and heating problems but little else.

I am seriously thinking about one of these running Bootcamp (I need both Op systems to run different software) once it is out of beta with the new OS.

yes please describe your system and the problems you are having.

[dkatz42]

Originally Posted by morebutter

What speed is the drive? 7200rpm?

Not sure, but I doubt it. It's an 80GB SmartDisk Firelite, a couple of years old. Their website doesn't say (nor does the drive.) [Small and bus-powered, I've got several...]

[tonerowlabs]

I just got my MBP (2.2 / 15" / 4GB RAM) yesterday. I agree it's the best value from their lineup, especially if you don't need the 256mb video card for games. MBP from Amazon (I have their stupid credit card) and RAM from OWC.

Pleased as punch. Did a quick test with Garageband - 18 VI's (synths and samplers) each playing 4-poly phrases along with a 10MB quicktime in an open, no skipping or warnings. Quite an enormous upgrade over my G4, which starts skipping video at 3 VI's. I stopped there, so I'm not sure how much further it'd go. Feel free to post a test file (Garageband, Logic, DP, PTLE) if you want me to try it out.

I did NOT go with 7200rpm internal. This is why:

1. I record onto and mix from a fast external via FW800. Eventually will invest in eSATA via ExpressCard and get even faster performance, but perfectly happy for now.
2. Imperceptible differences in apps and startup/shutdown times between 5400 and 7200 rpm drives.
3. 7200 rpm drives reportedly DO run hotter and louder and burn through battery time faster (yeah, I've heard they don't, but more recently that they do from Apple Cert. techs who install them). Quiter, cooler and longer life, as well as larger capacity, seemed like a good idea to me.
4. I got my computer 2-3 weeks sooner this way

[Mike O]

tonerowlabs - Any report on fan noise and/or heat? You mention getting the slowing drive to help keep noise to a min....

I am assuming you don't find either heat or noise to be an issue since you don't mention it. Correct?

[lozion]

Can you do a mono dverb test with PTLE?
Thanks,

Originally Posted by tonerowlabs

I just got my MBP (2.2 / 15" / 4GB RAM) yesterday. I agree it's the best value from their lineup, especially if you don't need the 256mb video card for games. MBP from Amazon (I have their stupid credit card) and RAM from OWC.

Pleased as punch. Did a quick test with Garageband - 18 VI's (synths and samplers) each playing 4-poly phrases along with a 10MB quicktime in an open, no skipping or warnings. Quite an enormous upgrade over my G4, which starts skipping video at 3 VI's. I stopped there, so I'm not sure how much further it'd go. Feel free to post a test file (Garageband, Logic, DP, PTLE) if you want me to try it out.

I did NOT go with 7200rpm internal. This is why:

1. I record onto and mix from a fast external via FW800. Eventually will invest in eSATA via ExpressCard and get even faster performance, but perfectly happy for now.
2. Imperceptible differences in apps and startup/shutdown times between 5400 and 7200 rpm drives.
3. 7200 rpm drives reportedly DO run hotter and louder and burn through battery time faster (yeah, I've heard they don't, but more recently that they do from Apple Cert. techs who install them). Quiter, cooler and longer life, as well as larger capacity, seemed like a good idea to me.
4. I got my computer 2-3 weeks sooner this way

[sasha222]

Originally Posted by tonerowlabs

I just got my MBP (2.2 / 15" / 4GB RAM) yesterday. I agree it's the best value from their lineup, especially if you don't need the 256mb video card for games. MBP from Amazon (I have their stupid credit card) and RAM from OWC.

Pleased as punch. Did a quick test with Garageband - 18 VI's (synths and samplers) each playing 4-poly phrases along with a 10MB quicktime in an open, no skipping or warnings. Quite an enormous upgrade over my G4, which starts skipping video at 3 VI's. I stopped there, so I'm not sure how much further it'd go. Feel free to post a test file (Garageband, Logic, DP, PTLE) if you want me to try it out.

I assume this is at 24/44.1? What buffer size were you using?

[Andrew07]

Just got my 17'' 7200RPM MBP yesterday! I've read several posts on the internet about uneven lighting on the screen, but mine seems just fine for what I'm doing. Will do a test of how many mono Dverbs I can get in PT LE at 44.1/24-bit. Would be nice to compare to others too!!

[blaugruen7]

i would be interested how often the fan kicks in, how loud the machine is.
and real life battery duration of the 17" would be nice to hear.