SAE sponsors ARDOUR

[Blinddot]

Ive just read this on the Ardour RSS

SAE Institute sponsors Ardour open source DAW project | ardour


I think it sounds more of a solid and less interested sponsor than the one they got from SSL (actually Id love to know what happened with SSL)

I want to send my best wishes to Paul Davis ( I ve seen him around here) and the Ardour team, and my personal gratitude to SAE institute


regards

[George Necola]

cool might help to improve the program a lot with money.

I hope the program doesnt start talking shit, and **** up your session.

what about a SAE-student-is-comming- panic key?

[mapostel]

Hi George,

It's Open Source - so please feel free to program your own functions and contribute them back to the project. ...

(sorry to hear you've had bad experiences with any of our (swiss?) graduates)

Cheers

Matthias

[George Necola]

(sorry to hear you've had bad experiences with any of our (swiss?) graduates)

yeah, the swiss SAE sucks.. the quality/level is very low.. but everyone besides the students know, so it's not a big deal

cool! have to get into it.

cheers

[BenLoftis]

I think the mentality of the student is the biggest factor. SAE provides a facility, some gear, and some instruction. There is a certain subset of people that will actually use this to get an education. The others (possibly the majority) just want the diploma and expect a rock-star job afterwards. Unfortunately for them there is no fast way to the top in this business...

Back to the subject of Ardour, though: I suspect we'll see lots of these "niche" markets appear for Ardour. Most of the big workstations have grown to accomodate every possible facet of audio production... now it's time to see them do it _well_. This is really hard for a monolithic app that has to please everyone. But with something like Ardour you can customize it for exactly your market's needs. This is what we did at Harrison for the Xdubber.

[steff3]

e, that could help SAE to even make more money - get the fees from the students and no put Linux boxes with open source software in the studios

Open Source brought so many good things to us, I sincerely hope that in the near future we will be able to do a full blown recording on Linux, enjoying all the advantages of that operating system (speed, reliability, license).
Pro Tools can then **** itself.

[Blinddot]

Originally Posted by steff3

e, that could help SAE to even make more money - get the fees from the students and no put Linux boxes with open source software in the studios

I dont know, but that comment feels so short-sighted to me...

It could help to make money to anyone who wants to use it, it could help to make music to anyone, it could help to be creative to anyone, it is the beauty of it... It's easy to understand for me, open source software cannot be stopped, the knowledge is nobody's (at least in the long run), like in science, it ends up being a universal asset, it just passes from generation to generation, why software cannot be like that? I believe it can be, and that even against some established legal inertia (soft patents), it will become this way. If the people who now develops Ardour stop doing so, somebody will take on it, it is a very nice concept of software that from my point of view makes sure it will become a standard in recording studios in a few years, I could be wrong and it could take more, but Im pretty sure it will happen. I dont know, it just makes sense to me that if you have a great tool that is free you just use it, specially if you feel good doing it, cos besides being free (as in free of charge) it's free (as in freedom).

So I feel grateful to SAE for supporting such a community tool that it will improve the industry in the near future, and I take my hat off to them cos I think it is a very smart business move as well, since being the first to teach a standard (if it becomes so) makes a very good marketing. I'd love to see a generation of sound engineers familiar to linux (or at least unix based OS with an open source core, like OSX), ardour, and the concept of open source software. I also feel grateful to apple for moving to X86 platform and making possible the events that are happening already since that decision, and the ones I personally believe will happen as a consequence of the same decision in the long run. Think about it, we all of us, now work with virtually the same hardware platform, that is for me a very good thing since many people pushing in the same direction do more than double the people pushing in different ones.. I just hate when my sessions dont work on somebody else's studio (dont you?), and I think step by step we are getting close to universal standards, I think the right universal standards are the ones that the users define, not some company. Ok, do you want to make money? stick to the standard and offer a service (the concept of a service i think it is changing), but dont sell me your own standard and make me pay money for every update that you release when you think it is time tu suck more money from me. Until now, and still for some time, it will happen for some time, since there is no alternative yet, but I think that is changing.. some parallelisms could be seen in the music industry, I think these are times of change, it just takes time. I might be a stupid one with stupid and naive ideas in my head.. please.. feel free to enlighten me if you think so

regards

[heathen]

Hey what a great idea, now after spending thousands of $$$$ they wont feel so bad cause they get a free app on graduation and a teaching job. Where? At SAE of course.

Actually I reckon the first lessons which should be taught at SAE is how to make a superb coffee and roll the perfect doob, everything else in audio engineering is all subjective.