15th May 2007
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Can Cubase do Auto-Touch automation
Using a control surface, how can you set up Cubase to do Auto-Touch automation?
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16th May 2007
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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16th May 2007
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#3 | | Gear maniac
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Can someone tell me what "bump" means? I'm not "hip" to that "terminology," "Jackson."
Anyway, go here Cubase 4 :: Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH
and scroll down to the "Remote Control Devices" manual....I think that's what you may be looking for (this is for Cubase 4, not sure what you're using).
Please note I've never done this but I think the answer is "yes."
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16th May 2007
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when people use the word bump in a post its kinda like
saying hi to everyone
I cant do it .
when you post something and no one answers the thread, the thread works its way to the bottom of the pile of threads the word bumb just means it bumps it to the top of the forum.
by a control surface do you mean a touch screen?
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30th May 2007
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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Looked thru their site but I'm still not quite sure how to do it. Im using an Alphatrack Pro. By 'Auto-Touch' I mean while the track is playing I can move the fader on the Alphatrack to write automation, but I have to hold the fader to maintain the new level. As soon as I let go of it, it will snap back to the original level. Is this possible?
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30th May 2007
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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It has 5 modes of automation to choose at the upper left corner of the screen
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I've gone through them but I don't think it does what Im trying to do. I could have sworn it worked last week, but it didn't last night. I made sure 'Read' and 'Write' were enabled, but after releasing the fader, it did not snap back to its original value. The release value was also set at 1ms
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30th May 2007
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Yea- but it takes some work. I called Steinberg and they said the only way to do it is if you put a dot at the end of the song in the volume window under the track you want to automate. Then the fader will snap back. Pain but it works. I wish there was a way to be able to have my Alphatrack jump back when I'm automating in one of the mixer windows. Now if you can find that out-- Let me know.
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6th July 2007
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#9 | | Gear maniac
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I was having this problem too and what Blackwater said works. Has this problem been corrected in Cubase 4??
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6th July 2007
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Nope. It hasn't. This is what I still have to do. Oh well. Great sounding software! Well, let's just say very transparent coming from my Sony board.
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6th July 2007
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#11 | | Gear Head
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That works just fine with my Mackie control universal, I do not have to do anything to the track but enable the read and write button, the fader will pop back into position as soon as I release it. Im on SX3
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Blackwater Yea- but it takes some work. I called Steinberg and they said the only way to do it is if you put a dot at the end of the song in the volume window under the track you want to automate. Then the fader will snap back. Pain but it works. I wish there was a way to be able to have my Alphatrack jump back when I'm automating in one of the mixer windows. Now if you can find that out-- Let me know.
Chris | oh man..THAT is why some of my plugs don't do what I want when the song restarts.
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6th July 2007
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Methlab oh man..THAT is why some of my plugs don't do what I want when the song restarts. |
Exactly!
Although it looks like in SX3 you might not have to do this but I'm speaking only to CB4.
Chris
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Err...it works for me. I believe it's the Touch Fader mode:
About the five automation modes (Cubase SX only)
In Cubase SL the automation mode is always “Touch Fader”.
When recording automation, you can choose one of five automation
modes (available on the Project window toolbar):
• When Touch Fader mode is selected, the program starts writing the
automation as soon as you click the control and stops writing when
you release the mouse button.
If you are overwriting existing automation, the Automation Return Time setting (next to
the automation mode pop-up menu) determines how fast the automated parameter returns
to its original automated value when you release the mouse button.
For most plug-in parameters (audio effects and VST Instruments), there
is no way for the program to “know” whether a control is “pressed” or
not (this information is not passed back by the plug-in interface). For
this reason, automation of most plug-in parameters will work as in Autolatch
mode (see below), even if Touch Fader is selected.
• When Autolatch mode is selected, the program starts writing the automation
as soon as you click the control and stops writing when you
stop playback or turn off the Write function.
The last automation value will be continuously written until you stop or turn off Write.
This is useful if you want to overwrite a long section of previous automation, and also
when you are recording automation from a remote device (because then there is no
way for the program to know when you “release” the control). However, make sure you
only touch the desired control(s) when recording automation in Autolatch mode – and
remember to stop playback when you’re done!
• X-Over mode works like Autolatch mode, but with one difference: As
soon as you “cross” any existing (previous) automation curve, the writing
is automatically turned off.
• Overwrite mode affects volume automation only. It works like Autolatch
mode, with one significant difference: the program starts writing the
automation as soon as you start playback, and stops writing when you
turn off Write.
This means that automation will be written continuously from the moment you start
playback until you turn off Write – even if you don’t touch any controls. This is useful if
you want to have a “clean slate” and redo previous volume automation.
• Trim mode is useful for volume automation only. It offsets the volume
automation curve without overwriting any previous volume automation,
letting you adjust the volume for already existing automation.
In Trim mode, the channel’s volume fader in the mixer is initially positioned in the exact
middle position, regardless of any existing volume automation. By raising the fader relative
to the middle position, you offset the volume curve upwards. By lowering the
fader, you offset the volume curve downwards. In Trim mode, the program starts writing
the automation as soon as you click the control and stops writing when you release
the mouse button.
• Trim mode has a special feature: if you enable Write automation when
playback is stopped and select Trim mode, you can use the fader to
trim (offset) the volume curve between the left and right locator.
This makes it easy to e.g. raise the relative volume in a specific area: set the locators
accordingly, enable Write, select Trim mode and raise the level fader.
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7th July 2007
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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| Cubase 4 (not SX or Studio 4 or Cubase LE) Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnkenn Err...it works for me. I believe it's the Touch Fader mode:
About the five automation modes (Cubase SX only)
In Cubase SL the automation mode is always “Touch Fader”.
When recording automation, you can choose one of five automation
modes (available on the Project window toolbar):
• When Touch Fader mode is selected, the program starts writing the
automation as soon as you click the control and stops writing when
you release the mouse button.
If you are overwriting existing automation, the Automation Return Time setting (next to
the automation mode pop-up menu) determines how fast the automated parameter returns
to its original automated value when you release the mouse button.
For most plug-in parameters (audio effects and VST Instruments), there
is no way for the program to “know” whether a control is “pressed” or
not (this information is not passed back by the plug-in interface). For
this reason, automation of most plug-in parameters will work as in Autolatch
mode (see below), even if Touch Fader is selected.
• When Autolatch mode is selected, the program starts writing the automation
as soon as you click the control and stops writing when you
stop playback or turn off the Write function.
The last automation value will be continuously written until you stop or turn off Write.
This is useful if you want to overwrite a long section of previous automation, and also
when you are recording automation from a remote device (because then there is no
way for the program to know when you “release” the control). However, make sure you
only touch the desired control(s) when recording automation in Autolatch mode – and
remember to stop playback when you’re done!
• X-Over mode works like Autolatch mode, but with one difference: As
soon as you “cross” any existing (previous) automation curve, the writing
is automatically turned off.
• Overwrite mode affects volume automation only. It works like Autolatch
mode, with one significant difference: the program starts writing the
automation as soon as you start playback, and stops writing when you
turn off Write.
This means that automation will be written continuously from the moment you start
playback until you turn off Write – even if you don’t touch any controls. This is useful if
you want to have a “clean slate” and redo previous volume automation.
• Trim mode is useful for volume automation only. It offsets the volume
automation curve without overwriting any previous volume automation,
letting you adjust the volume for already existing automation.
In Trim mode, the channel’s volume fader in the mixer is initially positioned in the exact
middle position, regardless of any existing volume automation. By raising the fader relative
to the middle position, you offset the volume curve upwards. By lowering the
fader, you offset the volume curve downwards. In Trim mode, the program starts writing
the automation as soon as you click the control and stops writing when you release
the mouse button.
• Trim mode has a special feature: if you enable Write automation when
playback is stopped and select Trim mode, you can use the fader to
trim (offset) the volume curve between the left and right locator.
This makes it easy to e.g. raise the relative volume in a specific area: set the locators
accordingly, enable Write, select Trim mode and raise the level fader. | I believed he was speaking of using a control surface such as an Alphatrack to do touch automation, not his mouse, and I also thought he was speaking of CB4 not CBSX. I have no experience with SX, LE, SL, Studio 4 . Sorry if I was giving you incorrect info for CBSX.
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