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Old 16th June 2008   #31
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Mmm, here's a crazy idea: How about trying a PT Mix core card with one these in a PCI-e G5? Would need to have panther on that machine...
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Sooo...

has anyone SUCCESSFULLY tried this on a Mac?

i just gat a new quad g5 and need to run my card on it...
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Old 22nd July 2008   #33
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I'd like to give this thread a bump, I've got a new Mac pro and am wondering if this adapter card would work with a pci uad-1, anybody try it?

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Old 28th October 2008   #34
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Anyone tried this with a PCI adapter card for a Magma Chassis?
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yeah, i'd like to hear the horror stories of the mac attempts with this card. seems like $50 is not a prohibitive experiment. anyone tried it?...
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I am interested in this too!
Got an 2006 G5 with pci-e cards. Want to try something like this so I can install a HD core pci-x card.

May be a long shot?
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After taking a look inside my mac and comparing to the pics earlier in this thread I am sure it wil fit.
But the problem is finding where to plug the cable. I suppose it's some kind of power?
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So...
I have ordered an adapter card


I found some adapter cables similar to this on german ebay(satacables won't ship to EU):
Google Image Result for http://www.satacable.com/images_products/sata-power-cable-splitter-two-15-pin-and-one-4-pin-molex.jpg

this way I can plug into the SATA output and connect the 4-pin Molex connector on the adaptercard and still have sata-connectors for the drives. We'll see how it turns out..
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I received the adapter card and tested it with a firewire PCI-card in my PCI-e G5.
I worked perfectly.

Now I just have to test it with a Digidesign core card.
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keep us informed, im finding it hard to justify a pci-e core card
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Old 23rd June 2009   #42
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I received the adapter card and tested it with a firewire PCI-card in my PCI-e G5.
I worked perfectly.

Now I just have to test it with a Digidesign core card.
any luck?
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I am waiting for a good deal on a HD Core card.

Didn't seem like people were too eager to deassemble their HD systems and let me try their cards in this setup

So when a good deal shows up I'll take some photos for you.. And hopefully it'll work!
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I am waiting for a good deal on a HD Core card.

Didn't seem like people were too eager to deassemble their HD systems and let me try their cards in this setup

So when a good deal shows up I'll take some photos for you.. And hopefully it'll work!
If it worked, it would be a bit of an answer to prayers, for those of us on G5/PCI HD rigs !

A sensibly priced route to MacPro's, when the G5 gives up the ghost..
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I am waiting for a good deal on a HD Core card.

Didn't seem like people were too eager to deassemble their HD systems and let me try their cards in this setup

So when a good deal shows up I'll take some photos for you.. And hopefully it'll work!
any further forward with this zeppelin?
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I'm much more interested in this 4-slot PCI to PCI-E expansion chassis for €199! Anyone have any experience with this yet?

PCI Express to PCI Expansion Box - PC & Macintosh

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I tested these because I wanted to start selling them as a solution for my custom DAW customers. They really don't work well. There are LOT's of cards that don't work properly in them. UAD-1 cards don't work. HD cards don't work.

I don't recommend it at all.
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have you come across any alternatives to the magma stuff? I have a mac pro sitting redundant as these things are prohibitively expensive
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have you come across any alternatives to the magma stuff? I have a mac pro sitting redundant as these things are prohibitively expensive
Not for PCIe to PCI sadly. We do offer a really solid PCie to PCIe expander, but I haven't found anything other than Magma that will do PCIe to PCI reliably... and the Magma is actually iffy as well.
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any further forward with this zeppelin?
Sorry guys, I was really keen to make this work, but since it looks like I am getting a job in a big studio that's about to open, I decided to hold off the purchase of a hd system for my own studio.

I am sure this would have worked, but probably would have needed to cut off a small piece of the G5's chassis(not a big deal though).
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Sorry guys, I was really keen to make this work, but since it looks like I am getting a job in a big studio that's about to open, I decided to hold off the purchase of a hd system for my own studio.

I am sure this would have worked, but probably would have needed to cut off a small piece of the G5's chassis(not a big deal though).
I tried this thing with a 2008 mac pro and 2 pt hd cards. They do actually fit, the chassis can be closed, but Zeppelin was right. You can't plug in the TDM-cable unless you cut a piece out of the back of the chassis.

I took the second power supply of the mighty drive to power the adapters. So that wasn't a problem too.

The problem that remained is that it simply doesn't work. The only thing I can find in mac-os is the pci-bridge but never the pt hd-cards. Protools can't find the hardware either.

So I tried the 4 pci to pcie - expansion thing. I used an old Tower chassis and a 500W psu.
When I tried it the first time it actually worked, but then everything got worse. If the expansion box was attached and powered up, the mac pro didn't boot. With the cable unplugged OR the expansion box unpowered, the mac pro did boot.

I got rid of the problem by plugging a second electric consumer inside the xp box, in this case an old hdd.
Don't ask me why, I don't understand it, but with the hdd attached to the xp-box-psu, everything works (for over a week now).
the mac pro does boot AND I can find all pt hd-cards in mac os AND protools does launch and work!
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So I tried the 4 pci to pcie - expansion thing. I used an old Tower chassis and a 500W psu.
When I tried it the first time it actually worked, but then everything got worse. If the expansion box was attached and powered up, the mac pro didn't boot. With the cable unplugged OR the expansion box unpowered, the mac pro did boot.

I got rid of the problem by plugging a second electric consumer inside the xp box, in this case an old hdd.
Don't ask me why, I don't understand it, but with the hdd attached to the xp-box-psu, everything works (for over a week now).
the mac pro does boot AND I can find all pt hd-cards in mac os AND protools does launch and work!
Which 4 pci to pcie-expansion that worked are you talking about - its not that clear from your post.

I guess the one that didn't work with HD, is the PCI-PCIe-adapter to mount inside the computer...
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This one:
PCIE => 4 x PCI Expansion ATX Kit

And yes, the ones that didn't work where the ones that bitman used.
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still working?

Bombardier, I'm pacifically concerned about timing issues. I would be running a HD3 configuration, any bottle neck or latency problems. Did you ever figure out why you had to add the extra piece of hardware?
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Speed?

32 bit @ 33mhz ATX vs Magma 64 bit @ 66mhz.

How does this effect performance?
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Until now no performance or timing problems. I hope it stays that way.
I don't have any idea why I need the hdd in the xp-box.
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Old 13th January 2010   #56
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3 dsp playback Limit?!

Magma PCI Expansion Alternative? - Page 12 - Digi User Conference

Long tread but a lot of info.

Bombardier are you able to use more than 3 chips on the play back engine settings?
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Well, I have a HD2-system, so only 2 DSP should work, but I'm using 4 right now. And what the guy on duc wrote about the last part of the cards hanging over the slot was exactly the same in my old pc-system, so I guess it can't be a problem.
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Well, I got bad news for all who hoped the ATX-thing would work.
The 4 DSPs really worked with no problems, UNTIL yesterday. Yesterday PT crashed and couldn't be started until we deleted the preferences-file.
We could switch to 4 dsps without a problem, but 3 dsps don't work a single second without crashing.
I guess 4 dsps will work for some time, but the pt will crash again.
So I can confirm what the guy on duc wrote. Only 1 dsp per card works stable.
Damn. I really thought I had a chance.
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Until now no performance or timing problems. I hope it stays that way.
I don't have any idea why I need the hdd in the xp-box.
what is an HDD? I have that same expansion box and the same problem is happening to me. pro tools opens and recognizes the cards (HD3 in my case) but after a minute or so of playing back a session it just crashes the whole system and i have to forcefully shut down my computer!!

Im freaking out here, because my studio is not working because of this!! can somebody please help me figure out a way to make this virtua via 4 pci to pcie expansion box? I got the version that comes with an Atx and 500W PSU

Running 10.6.4 on a mac pro quaD core 3.0Ghz

thank you
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