Sampling a Piano Library

[matt9b]

I'm a pop music producer and thinking about producing sample libraries that sounds realistic with performance faults, and is useful in pop mixes, as opposed to something that sounds perfect on its own. What features and type of sound is important to you in a piano library? How important is mono capability? How important is natural room reverb, or completely dry samples?

[JensT]

Originally Posted by matt9b

I'm a pop music producer and thinking about producing sample libraries that sounds realistic with performance faults, and is useful in pop mixes, as opposed to something that sounds perfect on its own. What features and type of sound is important to you in a piano library? How important is mono capability? How important is natural room reverb, or completely dry samples?

Good ideathumbsup . There are a few piano libraries that sound great, but anything that would give it some kind of odd character would be nice. For example the possibility to detune certain keys or octaves, bad hammers, disfunctional mechanics, pedal squeaks etc. In my view ambience is great, provided you have the option of turning it off.

[gsilbers]

having lots of velocity layers at high sample rates! that means lots of HD space.

i guess for pop piano, which usually is recorded dryer than classial and solo piano. u dont need a lot of room sound... not a big room sound conerto style but a small tight space u can add fx reverb if u need to instead of starting with lots of reverb.

if u use kontakt2 u can add some chord memorizer/arp/seq and other performace oriented patches.

[damien]

Maybe you'll think that I don't answer your question, but I think it will be hard to beat the quality of the sampletekk piano kits that are, to my mind, far better than the ivory and the grand 2 in a mix.

check that, and work on your sample kit if those one doesn't fit to your pop production ;-) the close miked kit is worth is price ! 50$. don't know what to say.

http://www.sampletekk.com/proddetail.php?prod=STCD-033

this one is a Yamaha C7 grand with No less then 93 unique samples per recorded note.
It's awesome to make pop ballades or rn'b if you think the steinway is too jazzy and not enough bright.

this Steinway D kit is the most detailed and realistic that I have ever heard:
http://www.sampletekk.com/proddetail...TCD-003-MULT24

http://www.sampletekk.com/bgresource.php to download the demo ( 2 octaves + all the C's)

the close miked version is only 50$ for pop its perfect. You can add reverb if desired.


Hope it will be fine for you.

Damian

[matt9b]

well I ended up making the piano library- it took quite some time, and I used it on quite a few tracks... Now I finished making a website for it last month and it's available here:

Imperfect Samples ® - Sample Libraries with Realistic Performance



demo 1: http://www.imperfectsamples.com/webs...himmeldemo.mp3

demo of piano in a dance track of mine: http://www.imperfectsamples.com/webs...2_The_City.mp3

mic perspective 2 demo: http://www.imperfectsamples.com/webs...tive2_Demo.mp3

FX demo: http://www.imperfectsamples.com/webs...anoFX_Demo.mp3

[yelmua]

Matt - this is amazing! I read your first post and thought "this guy's nuts if he thinks he can just up and do this." Haha, then a few posts later and you've gone and done it!

The samples on your web site sound superb! I can't really afford it now, especially since I just recently invested in the Reason piano samples, but just wanted to pass some kudos your way. I'll definitely keep an eye on the site!

brian

[Autocrat]

- I agree, the samples sound great. A very intimate and warm vibe.

Yeah - being that it's Christmas time too makes it hard to spend on new software toys for oneself.

How about a GS groupbuy?

[matt9b]

Originally Posted by Autocrat

- I agree, the samples sound great. A very intimate and warm vibe.

Yeah - being that it's Christmas time too makes it hard to spend on new software toys for oneself.

How about a GS groupbuy?

Hi autocrat, interesting idea. What do you mean by 'GS'?

If you're talking about GigaStudio, this instrument is only currently available in Kontakt and EXS24. Other formats are planned, but my polls show that not many people that actually still use Giga -

do correct me if I'm wrong!

Matt

[JustinAiken]

Originally Posted by matt9b

Hi autocrat, interesting idea. What do you mean by 'GS'?

Ha, I think he meant gearslutz

[Autocrat]

Yes, a Gearslutz groupbuy.

Maybe 40% off until December 31st or something.

[matt9b]

Okay, here is your GS group buy:

Imperfect Samples ® - Winter Group Buy Store

0 - 25 Buyers: 10 % Discount
26 - 50 Buyers: 20% Discount
51 - 75 Buyers: 30 % Discount
76 - 80 Buyers: 40% Discount
81 Buyers or More: 50% Discount

Valid for 1 month, starting today (19th Dec).

Merry Christmas!

Matt

[alex000]

its sound very nice .

[yelmua]

ok, with the 50% discount this starts to become affordable for me! put me down as #1. 80 others willing to join?

[Pat]

Very good. Sounds very realistic and warm.

[Coil]

Originally Posted by matt9b

For the Gearslutz 50% off winter group buy, click here: Imperfect Samples ® - Winter Group Buy Store

Matt

mmmh, this sucks, i`ve bought Braunschweig Upright (Pro) tonight for £89.98 ( ~ $133.86)

[matt9b]

Originally Posted by Coil

mmmh, this sucks, i`ve bought Braunschweig Upright (Pro) tonight for £89.98 ( ~ $133.86)

Hi Coil,

Don't worry, as you only just missed this offer, if we reach the 50% mark, you will also receive the 50% off.

Matt

[Coil]

Originally Posted by matt9b

Hi Coil,

Don't worry, as you only just missed this offer, if we reach the 50% mark, you will also receive the 50% off.

Matt

so, this is very cool, thanks a lot.

[Nordkrog]

Sounds fantastic! I'm gonna place a group-by order too.

[yelmua]

Come on people - hop on board, this is a terrific opportunity to buy some great sounds at a great price!

Matt, quick q: are you extending the group buy across other forums as well, or is it only based on what GS members purchase?

[Oxytoxine]

count me in; seems to sound nice at a first glance!

[Dr.Wu]

Imperfect samples rock!
Gotta love a soundware company with a name like this!
The Braunschweig sounds so real its almost unreal!
Brings back sweet memories of my childhood!

[Silver Sonya]

This is great. I bought the Standard version when it came out. It's fantastic. I am happy that you included the upgrade path to the Pro version in this Group Buy.

I'm in.

- c

[Silver Sonya]

Thought it made sense to mention this Group Buy in the "New Products" alert/rumor section.

- c

[kamilsaj]

just joined group buy, can't wait for it!

[OB.one]

me too ...

It's a really good deal and a BIG thanx to Matt for his talented work and passion.

Hope we will be at least 81 in this Group Buy, Matt and Us deserve it !

Best Regards from Paris

Olivier aka OB.one
MySpace.com - OB.one French Composer - Paris - Electronica / Classical / Jazz - www.myspace.com/obonemusic

[yelmua]

Just wanted to bump this so nobody misses out on this great deal.

[matt9b]

Originally Posted by yelmua

Come on people - hop on board, this is a terrific opportunity to buy some great sounds at a great price!

Matt, quick q: are you extending the group buy across other forums as well, or is it only based on what GS members purchase?

Hi Yelmua,

At first it was just intended as a Gear Slutz group buy, but it since seems it has extended to other forums, I have no problem with that.

Thanks,

Matt

[Anonyme]

Does imperfect mean there are variations for the „same“ sample, or did I misinterpret?

Sounds really nice by the way

Gotta ask my wallet what it thinks on another music-related investment…

[timmcallister]

wow - glad i stumbled across this today.

I love the haunting sound. Gonna have to look at this and maybe jump in.

[matt9b]

Just thought I'd update this thread, as I've just finished a new instrument:

The Hohner White Baby Grand

It has 3 mic perspectives, and 34 velocity layers in each.. all imperfectly sampled of course!