Classik Studio Reverb (IK Multimedia)

[Rev. Robb]

WOW! I just installed CSR (Classik Studio Reverb) and I must say I am very pleased with my purchase. Compared to TL Space & Wizoo I think this blows them away. GREAT PRODUCT!

More to come as I experiment further...

[Spectacle]

Yeah, I just saw that it finally came out in UB for Intel Macs. Very sweet. Keep us posted. I'm thinking of springing for it soon.

[Rev. Robb]

“After further review… the play stands as called, CSR is awesome!”

I am amazed at this reverb. It sounds rich, wide, full and most importantly believable. From time to time I had the luxury to work with a 480L for about 3 years. Now I am not saying that they are identical, but I am saying that CSR definitely has a 480L sound. Much more usable than convolution verbs, IMHO.

Anyone else using CSR? What are your experiences?

[andivax]

it's killerrr!
definately, close to Lex480L.

[H-Rezz]

Originally Posted by Rev. Robb

“After further review… the play stands as called, CSR is awesome!”

I am amazed at this reverb. It sounds rich, wide, full and most importantly believable. From time to time I had the luxury to work with a 480L for about 3 years. Now I am not saying that they are identical, but I am saying that CSR definitely has a 480L sound. Much more usable than convolution verbs, IMHO.

Anyone else using CSR? What are your experiences?

CSR is the best ITB reverb , i have used Lexicon 480L and EMTplates quite a bit in the past and all i can say is that CSR is very close , it doesn't let you down not even on the shortest plate setting ....

[sonicdefault]

How does it sound on vocals?

[H-Rezz]

Originally Posted by sonicdefault

How does it sound on vocals?

Fantastic , you can get the plate really short ...... it's the most hardware sounding reverb i have heard in the box ...

They have a demo on their site you should check it out .

[Zeppelin]

The Halls definitely have a 480-sound that I've never heard ITB before. No reason to give up convolution verbs though. Great to have both flavours

[elambo]

Being RTAS, isn't there a delay and is that a problem when using CSR with live instruments?

[Rev. Robb]

I have not noticed any problems.

[CustomDigi]

Originally Posted by elambo

Being RTAS, isn't there a delay and is that a problem when using CSR with live instruments?

That has nothing to do with the quality of the plug. Besides, it isn't RTAS-only, I use the VST.

-Matt

[moxie34]

CSR is GGGRRRREEEEAAATTTT on vocals. I loved it. Don't currently own it but am recording in a friends studio and he installed it recently, after working with WAVES, SONY, LEXICON, ANTARES etc. I immediately liked the verbs in CSR better. I'm no pro, but to my ears they were the best sounding digital/plug-in verb I've heard. Just warmer and more natural sounding than all the others. Easier interface for me as well. I just don't really like most ALL plug-in reverbs I've ever tried. Maybe I don't use them right, but they just never seem to have that real WARMTH they're supposed to add to my soulful voice.
The CSR stuff just sounded and felt much much better to me, IMHO. I don't know why. I'm not super techy and haven't read about them. I'm just judging from what my ears heard.
Definately check it out.

[elambo]

Originally Posted by CustomDigi

That has nothing to do with the quality of the plug. Besides, it isn't RTAS-only, I use the VST.

-Matt

And why do you think I'm discussing the quality of the plugin? And I didn't say it was RTAS-only either...

I downloaded the demo and with the hardware buffer set to 256 samples there's no problem at all. It's probably delayed by 256 samples but it sounds instantaneous. And with delay compensation on playback there shouldn't be any delay.

[eddu]

Can it get close to the plate UAD EMT140?

[Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by elambo

And why do you think I'm discussing the quality of the plugin? And I didn't say it was RTAS-only either...

I downloaded the demo and with the hardware buffer set to 256 samples there's no problem at all. It's probably delayed by 256 samples but it sounds instantaneous. And with delay compensation on playback there shouldn't be any delay.

As it's common to use some predelay with reverbs anyway I usually don't worry with latency. Unless you run the verb in series with the signal and the dry/wet control is set to less than 100% wet that is.

[mOjO FET]

CSR sounds very good. It is probably the best plug-in reverb out there right now (haven't heard the UAD's yet). Except for the highs which I find a little artificial it is very close to the hardware counterparts.

Still, SIR or Pristine Space with Lexicon impulses beats it sound and price wise.

Mchael

[camerondye]

I use the plate in CSR more than the UAD Plate 140 because the UAD's controls don't let you have short reverbs. I think the Plate 140 is probably a little better sounding but I get better results with CSR because you have so much more control. The UAD doesn't have enough control over certain things that I have found. It sounds great but it's always too much. For me it has been hard to mix in a little plate on the UAD. I have been happy with my purchase of CSR since I got it. CSR definitely beats the other 2 reverbs on the UAD card also IMO. I really like the idea of the Dreamverb, but I never get the results I'm looking for...maybe too much control on the Dreamverb and Realverb.
I have never tracked with CSR, but I would think that it would introduce some latency to the picture. It may still be usable though. I would use a smaller reverb when tracking and switch it later.
The only thing I don't understand is the inverse Reverb...does anybody use it? It seems like an unusable effect...maybe not.
Cameron

[Sirocco]

Originally Posted by camerondye

I use the plate in CSR more than the UAD Plate 140 because the UAD's controls don't let you have short reverbs. I think the Plate 140 is probably a little better sounding but I get better results with CSR because you have so much more control. The UAD doesn't have enough control over certain things that I have found. It sounds great but it's always too much. For me it has been hard to mix in a little plate on the UAD. I have been happy with my purchase of CSR since I got it. CSR definitely beats the other 2 reverbs on the UAD card also IMO. I really like the idea of the Dreamverb, but I never get the results I'm looking for...maybe too much control on the Dreamverb and Realverb.
I have never tracked with CSR, but I would think that it would introduce some latency to the picture. It may still be usable though. I would use a smaller reverb when tracking and switch it later.
The only thing I don't understand is the inverse Reverb...does anybody use it? It seems like an unusable effect...maybe not.
Cameron

i think the inverse reverb might be similiar to the Non-Lin

[Farshad]

+1 for CSR here too.

Just give the "real Ambience" preset in Room algorithm a try (especially on acoustic guitar) ... It is just amazing.

[neverjared]

I've owned CSR for a while but just got to use it now that it is a universal binary.

I'm blown away. I think it is my favorite reverb plugin ever. So easy to use and get great sounds from. Great on vocals, acoustic instruments, drums, etc. Coudln't be more pleased. And it doesn't eat your cpu like conv. reverbs do.

I think I could mix an entire record with CSR and Waves SSL plugs and be perfectly content.

[Morten Hjort]

How is it compared to the Sony Oxford reverb?

[TornadoTed]

CSR is Univeral Binary now, I got an email form IK last week. It doesn't work in Cubase 4 still though. I love it, really nice sounding reverb and I'm set for reverb with Plate 140, Altiverb and CSR.

[TheTruffleKing]

CSR = Fantastic!

I broke down and bought the whole stinkin' IK bundle, and I'm really happy with it. It's a great value when you consider what you pay for these individually. I'm also ecstatic about :

-Ampeg SVX....yowwww!

So far I also like Amplitube 2 and Miroslav Philharmonik quite a bit.

[Screwdio]

Just started using the UB version of CSR and it is all of the great things that people have said already. IK is really doing some great things with CSR, SVX and Amplitube....I own 'em all and love 'em.

[Rev. Robb]

It's now been 5 days and I love this verb. Amazing!

[teknosmoker]

Originally Posted by eddu

Can it get close to the plate UAD EMT140?

Close? - yes
The same? - no

I find the UAD's EMT 140 to sound more lush/rich, though the UAD is not as tweakable as CSR. But to be honest, it still sounds damn good for a native plug reverb. Best non-convolution based native I've heard yet.

-T

[steveninkster]

Originally Posted by TornadoTed

It doesn't work in Cubase 4 still though.

That's interesting - the IK web page clearly states "In addition to Mac Intel compatibility and dongle-free operation, CSR 1.1 is now fully Pro Tools 7 compliant and compatible with VST 2.4 hosts such as Cubase 4 and Live 6."

I am interested in buying CSR but as a Cubase 4 IntelMac user this makes me kind of nervous.

Thanks

[Absolute]

Originally Posted by teknosmoker

Close? - yes
The same? - no

I find the UAD's EMT 140 to sound more lush/rich, though the UAD is not as tweakable as CSR. But to be honest, it still sounds damn good for a native plug reverb.

-T

Why do people who say UAD is better always phrase their comments as if "Native" is inferior to UAD--like UAD1 is is real hardware. They are both software. There is no such thing as "good for a native reverb" in comparison to UAD. They are both code.

[elambo]

Originally Posted by Absolute

Why do people who say UAD is better always phrase their comments as if "Native" is inferior to UAD--like UAD1 is is real hardware. They are both software. There is no such thing as "good for a native reverb" in comparison to UAD. They are both code.

UAD is just as "hardware" as is a Lexicon 960 or TC6000. All are hardware units running "SOFTWARE." It's true!

[Lagerfeldt]

First of all, the CSR is indeed super excellent - and now dongle free.

But in response to the above poster.. while hardware reverbs of course are running software, you can't always compare 1:1. You might have processors or co-processors optimized for certain types of operations that will fit that particular reverb unit better than a general floating point processor found in a PC. This could mean faster calculation power, fewer rounding errors, etc.

Im no hardware expert but that much I do know :-)

But as you take a listen to the CSR you become aware how far software reverbs have come.