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Old 5th March 2007   #1
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Reaper on OSX !

In a recent DAW thread , SRR posted this link:

http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthre...ghlight=reaper


The thing is I really want this on 10.3.9 osx .

They are talking about this eventually.

I just want to hear people's experience with Reaper, I've read a bit here but

specifically, those of you who have come from Pro Tools?


I'am so far encouraged by it's features and it would be great to transition some projects into Reaper, and if it kicks Pro tools ass (for my needs) I could fully switch.

anyway who's excited about this
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I'm excited about this because Reaper allows you to import projects from Roland VS machines. For about five years my studio was based on the Roland 2480. So I have this HUGE collection of back up CD's. Currently if I want to load one of those projects into Logic it's all day affair, because the Roland only lets you export the .wav files via CD-R. And believe me that burn takes FOREVER. Each song is about 10 CD burns that are each a couple of hours long. So with Reaper, I can actually load the back up CD's and .WAV files come up and are ready to export. Not sure if it's available on the Mac version yet though.
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I am a PC user but using Reaper all the same. Great little prog that is really making some waves...

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how does reaper stand out from other DAWs..
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Talking

i'm realy a logic user (10 years)

4 production i use logic.
4 mixing it was pro-tools

now im in 2 reaper.
it has PDC.
and 2 many features 2 name.
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3000.....
i'm a happy likkle reaper user/fan of the developers.
brilliant software engineering imho.
just too many features to go into.
all i can say is...if u cant do a great song in reaper..you wont in anything.
just try the demo of it. theres just so many features n more every week added.
latest one is the ReaEQ...thats causing a stir.
check out the huge included plug in suite also.
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You know Justin Frankel seems a cool dude.(if you don't know who he is check it out)


The thing is his Reaper "approach" has the same dignity of Steve Massey's stuff.

I feel like music is about more then $ and these guys know that.

You see waves and digi have behaved badly.

They have chosen to not be so much in their customers best interests,

but more so ; their own.

where everyone has to make a living and thats understood,

its the wup and mandatory interfaces (that lack f -ing normal word clock) etc.

and just the basic coporate unaccountability where respect and appreciation and

interaction of the relationship between maker and user begins to fall apart.

Anyway i just stepped off the soap-box and I'am very excited to get Reaper on my mac.

It seems like i will try a transition to it.

being able to actually chat with the creators about features seems unbelievably good.


I'am wondering does anyone use Reaper with a summing mixer or outboard mixer.

I hear the 64 bit mix engine is very nice , which is great but is anyone using

some outboard on mixdown with it?

One of the things about say Traction 2 that keeps it from pro use is the lack of any

real multiple output routing.
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You know Justin Frankel seems a cool dude.(if you don't know who he is check it out)


The thing is his Reaper "approach" has the same dignity of Steve Massey's stuff.

I feel like music is about more then $ and these guys know that.

You see waves and digi have behaved badly.

They have chosen to not be not so much in their customers best interests,

but more so ; their own.

where everyone has to make a living and thats understood,

its the wup and mandatory interfaces (that lack f -ing normal word clock) etc.

and just the basic coporate unaccountability where respect and appreciation and

interaction of the relationship between maker and user begins to fall apart.

Anyway i just stepped off the soap-box and I'am very excited to get Reaper on my mac.

It seems like i will try a transition to it.

being able to actually chat with the creators about features seems unbelievably good.


I'am wondering does anyone use Reaper with a summing mixer or outboard mixer.

I hear the 64 bit mix engine is very nice , which is great but is anyone using

some outboard on mixdown with it?

One of the things about say Traction 2 that keeps it from pro use is the lack of any

real multiple output routing.
i use my hardware all the time 2 mix now.

the i/o is also ADC. so you can plug in your comp in eq etc. etc.

it depends on the hardware interface u use.
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very cool.....



what interface are you using Ravian?
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I am a cubendo user, Reaper blows both of those out of the water for low latency/high sample rate performance. I can run at 96k / 0.33ms latency and STILL load a ton of vsti/effects on my dual quad and Reaper doesnt even sweat. Cubendos cpu meter would be spiking like mad and the audio would be popping and farting all over the show.

Awesome routing options. Anything can be sent anywhere, very flexible.

No nonsense bloatware features or gui that slows everything else down (I hope it stays like this aswel!)

I dont know how many inserts/sends you can load on a single track/instrument (until the cpu runs out?) but its well over cubendos 8 limit.

Awesome support from the Dev. Literally fixes or adds features overnight that are requested on the forum instead of waiting on Steinberg for half a year for an update which normally breaks more than it fixes. Also asks people what they want from a feature BEFORE implementing it, instead of going ahead with what he thinks is best and hoping everyone likes it.

A lot of other cool stuff to I cant remember off my head (it costs like £20 !!!?!?.) There is a lot of things that need improvment of course like midi and the external kit pdc detection but it runs amazingly well for a program coded by a one man team already. I just hope some wanky big company doesnt get any bright ideas about buying him/it and throwing their weight around in what direction it should go.....if that happens it will probably be its death. At the moment though I cannot get enough of it. Cubase4 was sold over the weekend, Nuendo is next up...

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I'm convinced now that in a matter of time this program will become the industry standard. There is no question that REAPER represents the future of the DAW. If you were a genius programmer and had 100 million in the bank, how would you spend your time? Justin's loggin some serious time on the develpment of this thing which is easily illustrated by an average of 2-3 updates per week. Won't be long now till it has all the midi features i would require to make a complete transition. I have a feeling that the coding is so good, that it will be made portable to all sorts of platforms beyond the basic mac UB port over. Look for reaper on playstations, xboxs and maybe even pocket pc or phone hybrid's in the near future. THis is the future.
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I read you can even run it from a pen drive in its entirety so you can just take it on the road with ya and wack it into any old computer ? NICE !

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ten..re....usb pen drives.
confirmed. i was amazed to find that awhile back.
now that some usb pens have 6/8mb per sec performance its an interesting
option. i havent stressed the pen drives yet. but it seemed 20 tracks was no problem on playback.
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What kind of USB sound card/converters could I use with reaper on a PC.
I am thinking of using my 20 input paris System for basics then popping the files over to rreaper to mix and o/d but I liek to use external devices during mixing.
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Reaper can not talk sync to a sound card. it can't slave to wordclock or anything useful. It has a very lame solution for generating an audio smpte track for making outside stuff slave. Ugh! Basically, the program can not sync to the outside world or provide info to the sound card it's working with that will let the card operate it's own word/adat etc.

The lack of sync facilites is not a deal breaker for everyone. But it is for some. As to the tagline "they add new features every week" line ..I notice that decent sync has been asked for on the Reaper forums several times over a long period of time.
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very cool.....



what interface are you using Ravian?
i'm using a digi 002 R
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Reaper can not talk sync to a sound card. it can't slave to wordclock or anything useful. It has a very lame solution for generating an audio smpte track for making outside stuff slave. Ugh! Basically, the program can not sync to the outside world or provide info to the sound card it's working with that will let the card operate it's own word/adat etc.

The lack of sync facilites is not a deal breaker for everyone. But it is for some. As to the tagline "they add new features every week" line ..I notice that decent sync has been asked for on the Reaper forums several times over a long period of time.
agreed, but at the rate he is going it won't be long. I think he's making it accessible to the lower-mid end market first, but building up to all the more complicated features of the big daws.
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I dont know how many inserts/sends you can load on a single track/instrument (until the cpu runs out?) but its well over cubendos 8 limit.



until the cpu runs out

track count : until the cpu runs out

and the routing is the shit

4 plugins it als has a kind of FX teleport kind of option.
that you can stress other pc's cpu's on a LAN network.
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I've just downloaded the reaper demo, but hasn't had time to play around with it on my studio computer. I was wondering about the audio/summing quality of reaper? How does it compare to major Daw like Cubase/Nuendo , Samplitude, Pt or Logic? Is the audio engine lacking or is it up there with the big boys? I was also wondering does it have offline processing for plugins like cubase sx?
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This all sounds exciting. I'm gonna wait a while longer. I'm gonna finish my album on logic but if the Reaper has matured by then I will totally jump ship like apple has jumped ship on Logic. I hate the fact that they take so long to update Logic. Emagic used to update all the time and it was free for the most part. EDIT I just downloaded the demo for OSX. I can't seem to get the plug ins to work.
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Reaper can not talk sync to a sound card. it can't slave to wordclock or anything useful. It has a very lame solution for generating an audio smpte track for making outside stuff slave. Ugh! Basically, the program can not sync to the outside world or provide info to the sound card it's working with that will let the card operate it's own word/adat etc.

The lack of sync facilites is not a deal breaker for everyone. But it is for some. As to the tagline "they add new features every week" line ..I notice that decent sync has been asked for on the Reaper forums several times over a long period of time.
This is very important . Though I couldn't find any word clock sync requests

on the Reaper forum using those search terms?

At any rate It is a feature that allows a converter to sync to its own clock

which is ideal, and then sync thewhole system to that clock.

I have posted this request , and those who might use it should also request this here:

http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthre...6873#post56873
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Syncing to an external word clock is something that is handled at the driver/hardware level, so if you set your soundcard's ASIO driver to external clock, and connect it, REAPER will use that clock.


As far as SMPTE LTC/MTC sync, it's not in there yet--but REAPER can send both LTC and MTC for synchronizing other hardware.

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Reaper can not talk sync to a sound card. it can't slave to wordclock or anything useful.
This is not true at all

My mobile rig is a Ludic Genex6-96 feeding word to RME HDSP9652's set to sync to word.

REAPER just interfaces with your hardware, it does not add another layer between the card's word clock and the app's
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Excellent !!!!!!!


Thats why I asked.

its very important to point to clarify.

Wow I'am very excited about this I should buy you guys a beer!

I'am definitley switching now
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Excellent !!!!!!!


Thats why I asked.

its very important to point to clarify.

Wow I'am very excited about this I should buy you guys a beer!

I'am definitley switching now
You will find a very helpful community, and realtime help is usually available via IRC on #reaperchat
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Any speculaltion on when it will be ready for us Mac guys that are looking for an alternative to Logic?
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Any speculaltion on when it will be ready for us Mac guys that are looking for an alternative to Logic?
Probably later this year.. maybe late summer or fall
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cool that will give me time to see what apple decides to do with Logic.
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so as i read your comments its not so much a compositional tool as it is
brilliant for mixing..I use Live 6 and knows it inside out (been teaching it aswell)..but i do miss fades and tab to transients an so on from PT
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erm....lol.
i do fadeing all the time in reaper.
eg..fadeouts at end of a song....or fadeing an individual clip or trak in parts.
please explain more 3000...mebe i'm not understanding your needs.
imho also reaper ..i use tons for compositional work trying different arrangements etc.
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