Waves APA32 accelator platform

[George Necola]

Question:

- stability?
- works good with native pluggos?
- comments

maybe price you have paid.

cheers

[True North]

Originally Posted by George Necola

Question:

- stability?
- works good with native pluggos?
- comments

maybe price you have paid.

cheers

It's Shite!! - the 32 was meant to be used in a seperate control room and it is noisy and it is weaker thant the APA44

I have the 44 and honestly I feel as if it was a waste of money after I built my new rig almost a year ago. I only use it for the convolution reverb (Ir1) and I don't really even need it for that. The other pain in the ass is that it starts to act funky when you change latencies which I will do dpending on whether I am mixing or tracking. I am planning on selling it, but I don't think I would get more than half of what I paid.

Cheers!

[defjamm]

i don't own one but i know the stats of how many plugins you can run with it. imho it's not worth it. if you build a new system for the same money you get way more instances (if you're a pc user).

[T_R_S]

If your using any other Waves PI besides the APA only plug-ins the installion is not smooth. Other than than the APA stuff is very stable.
I hate external pwered plug-ins like APA, Duende, and Liquid Mix. After using all 3 for several months. They are all useless for tracking, I tend to build mixes as I track so the latentcy is out of hand and it's a pain to keep turning ADC off and on. I think they are great when your at the end of your mix and your running out of DSP. But on my 7 card Accel rig that usually never happens.

[scking]

I've owned one for about a year.

Whoever said it wasn't useful for tracking was dead-on because you have to set the buffer size to high in the DAW in order to use the APA. It's also really loud, which isn't a problem for me because I have a machine room.

However, it takes a load off the CPU during mixdown. In a typical mix for me it runs reverbs and EQ (Q-Clone).

They've recently cut the price in half, BTW, and I believe it still comes with IR-L and Q-Clone.

[True North]

Originally Posted by T_R_S

If your using any other Waves PI besides the APA only plug-ins the installion is not smooth. Other than than the APA stuff is very stable.
I hate external pwered plug-ins like APA, Duende, and Liquid Mix. After using all 3 for several months. They are all useless for tracking, I tend to build mixes as I track so the latentcy is out of hand and it's a pain to keep turning ADC off and on. I think they are great when your at the end of your mix and your running out of DSP. But on my 7 card Accel rig that usually never happens.

I tend to build mixes as well and yes any externally powered plug in device will pretty much screw up your ability to use them during tracking.

When I start to get to a point where I am building the mix using my UAD's or APA or whatever I will usually do a stereo mix for vocal OD's and Gtr OD's (whatever) and just build the OD on the stereo mix. I can plunk the final takes into my real mix and I don't have to worry about which plugins I am using. It takes a little longer but it opens more options as well.

[George Necola]

thanx guys!

decisions: don't buy it George

[True North]

Good choice

[DAWgEAR]

I'm still upset that the SSL plugs have not been ported to the APA netshell format. Come to think of it, nothing has for the last year.

[WunderBro Flo]

does anyone know if the bundeled IR-1 and Q-Clone plugins that come with the APAs are locked to the aPA thing or do they also come in native versions? thinking about getting the APA32, keeping the plugins and selling the hardware.....

cheers,
pat

[George Necola]

IR-1 is native..

[WunderBro Flo]

George, thanks - do you mean there is a native version of the IR1 or that the APA32 comes with the native version aND the APA version of the plugin? In other words, can I install the APA version and then run it natively without having the APA hardware connected?

Thanks again,
Pat

[George Necola]

autch.. dont know.. I didnt bought this APA thing.. I just know that a friend runs IR-1

[DAWgEAR]

Originally Posted by WildCowboys

does anyone know if the bundeled IR-1 and Q-Clone plugins that come with the APAs are locked to the aPA thing or do they also come in native versions? thinking about getting the APA32, keeping the plugins and selling the hardware.....

cheers,
pat

You get both native and net versions. And it's IR-L, not IR-1, that you get, just to clarify.

Especially at higher sample rates and with multiple instances, the IR-L is such a CPU hog, running it on the APA is not a bad idea. Something to consider.

[True North]

FWIW, I was speaking with a Waves dealer not too long ago and apparently the plan is to have ALL of their plugs to be made compatible with the APA series in their next update

This is not Waves confirmed but I beleived my source.

[DAWgEAR]

Boy, would that be welcome.

I know Waves has reformed their WUP and all that, but for someone like me on the PC Win XP platform, the last year+ of paying WUP has yielded no fruit.

[T_R_S]

Originally Posted by True North

FWIW, I was speaking with a Waves dealer not too long ago and apparently the plan is to have ALL of their plugs to be made compatible with the APA series in their next update

This is not Waves confirmed but I beleived my source.

That's funny I heard that rumor as well hmmm

[studio13]

You cannot track with it. Not sure why anyone would be surprised by this. Managing changes to its Netshell latency is easy but a big pain if your in a dynamic environment. Best used in a static environment like post production etc.

I've found my APA32 to be very reliable. Using it for 6 stereo instances of IR-1. I mix out to stems and need at least 4 high quality reverbs running, one for each stem. This saves me from running an hour long show 4 times using solo / mute to create my stems.

If waves were to include netshell support for more pluggins I would buy several more bundles and APA32's

I have mine setup in a machine room. Impossible to use in the same room. They have 4 high speed fans in it spinning like crazy = very loud.

[WunderBro Flo]

Originally Posted by mr.w401

You cannot track with it. Not sure why anyone would be surprised by this. Managing changes to its Netshell latency is easy but a big pain if your in a dynamic environment. Best used in a static environment like post production etc.

I've found my APA32 to be very reliable. Using it for 6 stereo instances of IR-1. I mix out to stems and need at least 4 high quality reverbs running, one for each stem. This saves me from running an hour long show 4 times using solo / mute to create my stems.

If waves were to include netshell support for more pluggins I would buy several more bundles and APA32's

I have mine setup in a machine room. Impossible to use in the same room. They have 4 high speed fans in it spinning like crazy = very loud.

Thanks! Does anyone know if there is an upgrade from IR-L (the buindeled small version) to the big IR-1?

What about the impulses of IR-L and IR-1? Do they have real rooms like altiverb (studio recording rooms, drumrooms etc. - not just halls and cathedrals) as well? That is mainly what I am looking for!

Cheers,
Pat