Stereo Expander or Enhancer!!

[Solar]

Hi fellas!

Got a question here about using Stereo Expander or stereo Image enhancer into vocals. I would liek to know what are you pro's favorite stereo expander and how do you guyz use it in Back vocals group or simply vocals? Or do you use it at all?

Any tip is more then welcome!

Thanx in advance

[luctellier]

Hey Solar,

I use Waves Doubler to widen my vocal or background vocals. Same concept than the Harmonizer H3000. It pans a full left a 18 ms delayed signal downtuned by 9% and pans full right a 24 ms delayed signal uptuned by 9%.

[recall]

I use DUY wide. Its a great plug in and is very mono compatible. bv's, keys, multi tracked guitar, reverbs, delays...endless possibilities

[Solar]

Originally Posted by luctellier

Hey Solar,

I use Waves Doubler to widen my vocal or background vocals. Same concept than the Harmonizer H3000. It pans a full left a 18 ms delayed signal downtuned by 9% and pans full right a 24 ms delayed signal uptuned by 9%.

Hey Luc!
How are ya doing? Where are you from? Luc Tellier, are you from Canada or Montreal or something? Thanx for the Tip, also, when you use wavedoubler, in what kind of music do you always use it? Rock/Alternative or Pop-Urban? Thanx again for the time!! Gonna chekc this out!!

[theblue1]

Originally Posted by luctellier

Hey Solar,

I use Waves Doubler to widen my vocal or background vocals. Same concept than the Harmonizer H3000. It pans a full left a 18 ms delayed signal downtuned by 9% and pans full right a 24 ms delayed signal uptuned by 9%.

9 % ???

Of the frequency value?

Wouldn't that be, like, around a half tone going down and about a quarter tone going up? I don't think that would be too subtle...

Maybe I haven't slathered enough coffee down my gullet his a.m. but those numbers sound wiggy.



I tend to avoid "stereo enhancers"... I'm a coal-miner's canary when it comes to phase problems and a lot of the "wideners" I've been exposed to may produce a stunning expansion of the stereo soundstage -- but they also tend to produce near-instant listening fatigue in me.

That said, something along the lines (in principle if not specifics) described by luctellier are things I often do to "stereoize" a mono track (say to pop a rhythm guitar clone to the opposite side but make it sound more like a doubled part [hopefully]). I tend to do it manually but there's no reason you couldn't use a plug or other tool to automate the process.

[luctellier]

... come on..

[JamieMB]

Samplitude has a multiiband stereo imager on every track. Its nice to make lowered frequencies mono and have solid punch while giving the top end some width.

www.samplitude.com

[luctellier]

theblue1,

I agree with you. I don't widen instrument track, only vocals/bg vocals. I use the doubler to thicken up the vocals. I use the Waves Doubler to recreate the Micropitchshift preset effect from the old Eventide Harmonizer H3000 but, there's nothing like the real hardware. I didn't try the Eventide Anthology plugins though, anyone did? Looking forward to try that!

I prefed to dub the guitar track if I want something stereo, delaying the track or using a plugins doesn't sound as real as a overdub panned left/right.

[luctellier]

Originally Posted by Solar

Hey Luc!
How are ya doing? Where are you from? Luc Tellier, are you from Canada or Montreal or something? Thanx for the Tip, also, when you use wavedoubler, in what kind of music do you always use it? Rock/Alternative or Pop-Urban? Thanx again for the time!! Gonna chekc this out!!

I'm from Montreal/Canada!

I use it if I feel the song calls for it. Like in the chorus, I would overdub the lead vocal, then use vocalign to tighten the 2 tracks together, and then use Melodyne to tune it. After, I will send a small amount of the overdubbed vocal track to the Waves Doubler to widen the vocals in the chorus. It gives a nice "chorus" effect and thicken everything up. On backgrounds vocals, I'll use the Waves Doubler depending on how much widening I want.

I'm recording/mixing mainly rock music... Listen the song "Breathless" from my band, I used the Waves Doubler a lot.

I hope this helps.

[Solar]

Originally Posted by luctellier

... come on..

Tell me how "Pimped your MYSPACE"? Wow back ground amazing and the Nuendo support with all every fader.. crazy let me know thanx

[luctellier]

Solar,

I listened to the songs on your Myspace, sounds great dude! I guess you are producing mostly that kind of music?

[Solar]

Originally Posted by luctellier

Solar,

I listened to the songs on your Myspace, sounds great dude! I guess you are producing mostly that kind of music?

Hey Luc! I mostly produced Urban-Pop-Hip-Hop songs but also i got my otherside of me that also produce Alternative/Rock song. Like now i'm working on a Alternative youg girl and i will be for sure working (producing) some of her main song in her upcoming album. I've listen to the songs in your bandpage and sounds very good. Are you the one who mixed those songs, are u mixing ITB or OTB? Sounds very good man. Congrats.

Keep in touch , never know. Also let me know who or how did u pimped your Myspace, Pm me ok! Thanx

[luctellier]

Solar,

Good for you!

Yes, I've recorded, mixed and mastered the songs and play drums/backvocals in that band. It was self-produced to save money and because I just enjoy doing that. I don't have really any decent gear. I have a Presonus Firepod, a Rode NT1000 for vocals and guitar, SM57 for guitars, MD421 for guitars, bass, toms. I have a poor Alesis Nanocompressor to compress vocal a bit during recording and a ART Tube-Preamp (). Sooooo, I mix in the box! e

I did pimped my profile haha, Cubase SX style!

[statikcat]

http://www.nomadfactory.com/products...es/imager.html

Nomad Factory Stereo Imager is killer.

[Solar]

Originally Posted by luctellier

Solar,

Good for you!

Yes, I've recorded, mixed and mastered the songs and play drums/backvocals in that band. It was self-produced to save money and because I just enjoy doing that. I don't have really any decent gear. I have a Presonus Firepod, a Rode NT1000 for vocals and guitar, SM57 for guitars, MD421 for guitars, bass, toms. I have a poor Alesis Nanocompressor to compress vocal a bit during recording and a ART Tube-Preamp (). Sooooo, I mix in the box! e

I did pimped my profile haha, Cubase SX style!

Hey Luc, vraiment impressionant, en tout cas tes mixes sonnent bien en 'crime' hhahahaa.
Listen up, seriously, great job buddy with the equipment you've mentioned, its amazingly well done in my opinion, i'm sure other will find something to say or add but forme it sounds good. and thats what matters. And in other words, whatever the gear you have, you know your gear and thats also what matters. Bravo!

Ecoute il faudrait que tu me donnes des inputs on how to Pimp and espcially Customize the myspace like you did. I mean, i dont wanna have the myspace coding & stuff. Anyways, one day if you wish, i would appreciate that because i want to re-pimp myspace.

Thanx again for your time buddy.. always good to hear someone from us (Canada) doing great things. Bravo again

Keep in touch!

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