Copyright theft nightmare!

[msl]

Wow I'm amazed someone would go this far, and to top it off pick a rather well known artist like di Stefano. Shocking stuff, true nightmare. Guy is obviously a pathological lier, god how sad.


Guy who stoles over 15 tracks from Alex Di Stefano!


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[Dubber]

wtf ! lol !

but anybody can do this... download some soundcloud tracks from unknown producers and releases them as own.

the chance is good that the original producer will never get notice of that.

[butterfly]

...........yeah and the "alleged" perpetrator has a degree in law and specialises in "intellectual property".......sick. To be honest this doesn't surprise me. Last year I was put in touch with a big music lawyer who was interested in hearing some of my stuff, duly sent, phone conversations blah blah......" just keep sending me stuff".......but of course no email aknowledging receipt of said material. One of the tracks I sent him I was convinced was " smash material" great concept, ultra contemporary in style and subject matter. One day about 3 months later I opened the Metro newspaper on the bus and read an interview with one of this lawyer's biggest clients......no 1 hits worlwide only to read about the concept for their new tune......a slow sick feeling swept over me as I realised he might as well be talking about the tune in question I had sent to this lawyer only a few months previously. Went home and youtubed tune in question....no melodies stolen but lyrical concepts and even an entire chorus line pilfered. However it was so musically unsimilar I knew I would have a hard time proving it. Consulted with a lawyer speciallising in intellectual property who said I should probably play my cards close to my chest intially without going in there accusingly and maybe try and have a chat with the lawyer, whom to be honest I felt like strangling. Phoned him reluctantly a couple of times and he never picked up....by then I had gotten sidelined by various other things and really didn't have the stomach or the cash to take it any further. But I still feel absolutely sick whenever I hear the tune or said artists, whose stuff previously I quite liked. Honestly the more time I spend in this business the less faith I have in human nature.

[Simonator]

Wow... what a mega-tw@t. Astounding audacity.

It's funny that now, when you search the guy's real name 'Felipe Cersosimo' on google, that link you posted comes up as the second result... and will no doubt soon be number 1 as the story spreads virally.

"Grand pa pa... teh Internets says you are teh morally bankrupt guy that steals music from hard-grafting artists and claims it as your own work, is that true grand pa pa?"

[Simonator]

Hai Guyz,

Maybe I should start a new thread, but I just wanted to let y'all know about my latest project.

I am now called DJ Danger-Rebel, here is my first release-



What do you think?



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[Buckethead]

Originally Posted by Simonator

Hai Guyz,

Maybe I should start a new thread, but I just wanted to let y'all know about my latest project.

I am now called DJ Danger-Rebel, here is my first release-

What do you think?



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yo dj danger-rebel,

killa tune...

here is my new release.
thx for support.

[dhollmusik]

Originally Posted by Dubber

but anybody can do this... download some soundcloud tracks from unknown producers and releases them as own.

the chance is good that the original producer will never get notice of that.

Yeah, we had that thread where Zomby stole from Reark, and like you say I bet it happens loads of times without any of us ever noticing. Especially from the younger generation who grew up with torrents, Rapidshare and the like. They literally know no other way.

I've seen Youtube videos of kids playing their Launchpads and all they're doing is mixing loops from produced EDM tracks, but these productions are never credited, instead the equally-young commenters are beginning to think such work is 100% the uploader's own.

This is why I feel a little uneasy about such production-quality Ableton-loops that are on mainstream sale:

https://www.ableton.com/de/library/r...se-kollektion/


The quality, and authenticity, of future electronic music is uncertain...

[msl]

Your like, totally going off topic there dholl.

We already have 2-3 threads about loops and lack of originality. This is about out and out theft, but with the cheek (or stupidity?) to actively sell and promote the stolen material. This also has nothing to do with the Generation Z or the internet, aside from the internet facilitating the theft but also his outing.

Imagine living such a hugh lie for the two years he got away with it, to hundreds of people probably, imagine booking him imagine being his girlfriend...



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[ahmo]

MSL you should contact the artist and let him know what his lawyer is doing and that you used to be a fan.

Not that it'll do much, but at least he'll know there was a victim.

[Resonance5]

Originally Posted by msl

Wow I'm amazed someone would go this far, and to top it off pick a rather well known artist like di Stefano. Shocking stuff, true nightmare. Guy is obviously a pathological lier, god how sad.


Guy who stoles over 15 tracks from Alex Di Stefano!


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[dhollmusik]

Originally Posted by msl

Your like, totally going off topic there dholl.

We already have 2-3 threads about loops and lack of originality. This is about out and out theft, but with the cheek (or stupidity?) to actively sell and promote the stolen material.

Maybe a little off-topic, I grant you. But still related as the lines are blurring between out-and-out theft and using (mostly pirated) loops to create 'original' music.

The future will be a mish-mash of theft, generic samples and these loops.


I remember someone taking one of my droney soundscapes and adding just a couple of ethnic samples over it. He had the cheek to release it on a compilation CD and call it his remix.


They're out there, these people, and they're all related.

[kreeper_6]

And this is why Labels are important...

[Dubber]

Originally Posted by kreeper_6

And this is why Labels are important...

why? even they can't check if a demo is stolen or original.

but if your track is very unique such fakes releases will get busted sooner.

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by Simonator

Wow... what a mega-tw@t. Astounding audacity.

It's funny that now, when you search the guy's real name 'Felipe Cersosimo' on google, that link you posted comes up as the second result... and will no doubt soon be number 1 as the story spreads virally.

"Grand pa pa... teh Internets says you are teh morally bankrupt guy that steals music from hard-grafting artists and claims it as your own work, is that true grand pa pa?"

thats cause google knows you like gearslutz bro... its watching your every move man... predicting your searches.. evaluating you as a citizen, sneaking into your house when youre asleep, drinking your milk when you're out, hiding half of all your pairs of socks when youre in the shower...

[Dubber]

Originally Posted by Simonator

It's funny that now, when you search the guy's real name 'Felipe Cersosimo' on google, that link you posted comes up as the second result... and will no doubt soon be number 1 as the story spreads virally."

if creating links with his name to this topic it will reach no1 soon

Felipe Cersosimo / Modular Punk

[kcearl]

i wrote Pumped up Kicks



though at the time it was song about radicchio....same bassline though

[msl]

Originally Posted by ahmo

MSL you should contact the artist and let him know what his lawyer is doing and that you used to be a fan.

Not that it'll do much, but at least he'll know there was a victim.

Wha?



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[Zombie H]

id just like to say that I ghost wrote all of the big Nickelback anthem songs - those were my song and they stole them from me

[casiosk1]

I just dreamed a song in my dreams and I'm thinking of calling "Scrambled Eggs." Thoughts?

[Simonator]

Originally Posted by golden beers

thats cause google knows you like gearslutz bro... its watching your every move man... predicting your searches.. evaluating you as a citizen, sneaking into your house when youre asleep, drinking your milk when you're out, hiding half of all your pairs of socks when youre in the shower...

I wasn't talking about the link to the gearslutz thread- the link posted in the OP.

Also, while I'm no expert on SEO & PPC, I believe it's only the ads surrounding the search results (admittedly including the top highlighted results in that) that are tailored to users' searches... not the main body of results themselves... which should be the same for anyone searching within the same geographic region.

I think.

But, yeah- point taken that Google is becoming increasingly frightening.

[Zombie H]

Originally Posted by casiosk1

I just dreamed a song in my dreams and I'm thinking of calling "Scrambled Eggs." Thoughts?

[kcearl]

wow scary read......ive never copyrighted anything, but I suppose as you get better you should

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by Zombie H

id just like to say that I ghost wrote all of the big Nickelback anthem songs - those were my song and they stole them from me

you should be jailed....

[Zombie H]

Originally Posted by kcearl

you should be jailed....

it's not like you to say sorry - I was waiting on a different story

[muzika]

Reminds me of an incident a few months back. Some kid on soundcloud uploaded an entire album off of a bandcamp, which was not his own, onto his soundcloud and claimed the material to be his own work. Of course he was found out by others and he felt the wraith of the internet.

Sad people



Sent from my Desire HD using Gearslutz.com

[Simonator]

Originally Posted by kcearl

wow scary read......ive never copyrighted anything, but I suppose as you get better you should

Every original song you ever composed was copyrighted the instant you recorded it.

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by Simonator

I wasn't talking about the link to the gearslutz thread- the link posted in the OP.

Also, while I'm no expert on SEO & PPC, I believe it's only the ads surrounding the search results (admittedly including the top highlighted results in that) that are tailored to users' searches... not the main body of results themselves... which should be the same for anyone searching within the same geographic region.

I think.

But, yeah- point taken that Google is becoming increasingly frightening.

nah.. it knows you go on GS.. thats why GS results rank high on your googling.. when ever i google anything it comes up with about half a dozen shemale escort services before gearslutz and then anything useful comes under that

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by Simonator

Everything you ever made was copyrighted the instant you made it.

aye, I meant register it....some of my stuff is borderline mediocre, its could be a smash hit!!

[Entrainer]

That damn greedy artist wants to keep all the credit for himself
instead of letting someone else get laid off free music.

Sex should be free. Jus Primae Noctis for ALL!



yeeaaaaahhhh booooiiii!


I have an idea... how about an AIR release of Moon Safari?

[Zombie H]