SOPA already considered a failure by some.

[threesymbol]

Sooooo, I have been trying to gather under ground news on what the "pirates" are gonna do now. From the sound of it, they are not even slightly worried. They consider the past few years a "good run while it lasted." And that if only referring to the fact that they made money from posting pirated stuff. Now they are sure they can't "make money" at it. But they are also sure this won't end. A long as places like Netflix and YouTube are restricted from content these pirates will have work to do. What do you all think?

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[rack gear]

Originally Posted by threesymbol

Sooooo, I have been trying to gather under ground news on what the "pirates" are gonna do now. From the sound of it, they are not even slightly worried. They consider the past few years a "good run while it lasted." And that if only referring to the fact that they made money from posting pirated stuff. Now they are sure they can't "make money" at it. But they are also sure this won't end. A long as places like Netflix and YouTube are restricted from content these pirates will have work to do. What do you all think?

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SOPA/PIPA are dead bills.

[Don Hills]

For those "in it for the money", rushing to put up the latest releases, I think there will be a reduction in activity. There's less in it for them, and the efforts required to hide the content from takedown will also make it harder for the casual downloader to find so they'll be more likely to take the easy (Spotify/Rapsody/iTunes etc) route.

I don't think it will affect fans too much for a while - those people who are enthusiasts about a genre or band and who spend their own money and time "keeping the music alive" in the case of music that's long dropped off catalogues. They're also the ones with the time and motivation to hide the content well. Like minded fans will put up with some inconvenience to find it. You've almost certainly gone to great lengths at some time to obtain some rare, coveted item.

[threesymbol]

I hope it hinders enough to kill the casual user. Realistically they are the ones that turn the tides. I have family that steal music, because it's so easy that it must be ok. I've always thought it would be awesome if someone took the time to spread a damaging virus, one that really kills a PC's operating system, and pushes it across illegal file share services. If the risk was greater the casual users would drop off.
Anyways, time will tell. Hope for the best...

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[razorboy]

Originally Posted by threesymbol

I've always thought it would be awesome if someone took the time to spread a damaging virus, one that really kills a PC's operating system, and pushes it across illegal file share services. If the risk was greater the casual users would drop off.
Anyways, time will tell. Hope for the best...

I'm surprised that has not happened.




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[rack gear]

Originally Posted by razorboy

I'm surprised that has not happened.

it's illegal, and if caught would come with serious consequences for creating damages.

[John Eppstein]

Originally Posted by threesymbol

I hope it hinders enough to kill the casual user. Realistically they are the ones that turn the tides. I have family that steal music, because it's so easy that it must be ok. I've always thought it would be awesome if someone took the time to spread a damaging virus, one that really kills a PC's operating system, and pushes it across illegal file share services. If the risk was greater the casual users would drop off.
Anyways, time will tell. Hope for the best...

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Originally Posted by razorboy

I'm surprised that has not happened.

Originally Posted by rack gear

it's illegal, and if caught would come with serious consequences for creating damages.

1.) Most of the "better" pirate sites screen for viruses and block any member who uploads infected stuff. Exceptions are wide open public sites like TPB, which have a justly earned reputation as cesspits of infection. However even on those sites many users screen material and post comments when infections are found.

2.) It's illegal.

3.) If any corporate or official industry group was found doing this the public backlash would be enormous.

4.) What makes you think that it hasn't already been tried, at least to some degree?

Technological "solutions" for social problems don't work. Social/legal solutions do. That's why we need a bill like SOPA. Without effective legal protection the creative industries will fail. The remnants will be picked up by Big Tech at pennies on the dollar and everyone will be well screwed.

The reason that so many tech associated sites oppose legislation of this type is not because it will "break" the internet because it won't. It's not because of "human rights" or "freedom" issues because the only "rights" or "freedom" involved is the "right" to steal.

The reason they oppose SOPA is because it's the best shot at effective control of piracy and they don't want piracy controlled, not yet, anyway. Piracy is their front line weapon in an economic war being waged between two industries. As long as that war continues the tech sector will come up with any excuse they think to public will swallow to oppose effective controls on piracy, and since the tech sector now controls most of the popular news media in the US their propaganda is extremely effective, as we have just witnessed.

[mc_deli]

Well put.

And govts are quite happy to side with the tech industry because they are not potentially counter cultural and revolutionary (like the creative industries) and they play the big banking economic-growth driven game.

[mc_deli]

Originally Posted by John Eppstein

1.)

The reason that so many tech associated sites oppose legislation of this type is not because it will "break" the internet because it won't. It's not because of "human rights" or "freedom" issues because the only "rights" or "freedom" involved is the "right" to steal.

The reason they oppose SOPA is because it's the best shot at effective control of piracy and they don't want piracy controlled, not yet, anyway. Piracy is their front line weapon in an economic war being waged between two industries. As long as that war continues the tech sector will come up with any excuse they think to public will swallow to oppose effective controls on piracy, and since the tech sector now controls most of the popular news media in the US their propaganda is extremely effective, as we have just witnessed.

I am going to highlight this again. This is what is going on. And those of us at home rampantly downloading need to realise we are being taken for a ride by the tech industry, their seed funders and investment portfolios.