I see Google attracting a lot of hate...

[shponglefan]

... and I'm just curious as to why. Is it Youtube? Is it their search engine? What is it?

[chrisso]

Google Behind the Numbers Explains Opposition to Rogue Sites Legislation

The Beast File: Google ('HUNGRY BEAST', ABC TV) - YouTube

I don't hate them, I just don't trust them more than any other money hungry monster.

[3rd Degree]

I don't hate Google, I use Google every day. I have made money purely from the way Google works from many jobs.

For me, I don't like the mentality people have of Google, especially compared to the RIAA or even US government. I would never even make the comparison but it comes up enough to where they all are in the same "realm" so to speak. I just think a lot of people think Google is this great company that is "passionate" about keeping the user happy and they can do no wrong. It just isn't true and I don't mind arguing that. Google doesn't censor content, to my knowledge, but does make some material hard to find, as well as make other material easier to find, due to their business model, however.

[Beat Poet]

People will always dislike the big corporations. I think Google+ trended on Twitter the other night, people were laughing about its total lack of success.

[razorboy]

Originally Posted by chrisso

google behind the numbers explains opposition to rogue sites legislation

the beast file: Google ('hungry beast', abc tv) - youtube

i don't hate them, i just don't trust them more than any other money hungry monster.

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[narcoman]

loathe them here - loathe them for their hideous mega corporate leeching off the world.....

[razorboy]

Originally Posted by narcoman

loathe them here - loathe them for their hideous mega corporate leeching off the world.....

Well said. It's a big advertising agency with scams.

[Don Hills]

Originally Posted by razorboy

Well said. It's a big advertising agency with scams.

There shouldn't be any loss to the world if they are shut down, then.

- You do remember what the Internet was like before search engines, don't you? They're so "mind bogglingly useful that if they didn't exist it would be necessary to invent them." (Douglas Adams)

[lovekrafty]

Well I would,nt say I hate them
But reading through their recently changed user agreement
Is quite alarrming

They reserve the right to pretty much keep all you phone data
Including telephone call logs, call duration, locations.

Pretty much everything you do on the net.

I,m not sure how this is legal to be honest
And it,s not like you can opt out, if you use google

Scare times
LK

[razorboy]

I use yahoo search engine. It's search results are sometimes better than google's. Ask.com is good as well.

[narcoman]

Originally Posted by Don Hills

- You do remember what the Internet was like before search engines,

it was better before Google!!!

[Don Hills]

There's one in every crowd. Feel free to keep using Gopher, it's a free Internet...

[fritzschreiner]

Originally Posted by Don Hills

There shouldn't be any loss to the world if they are shut down, then.

- You do remember what the Internet was like before search engines, don't you? They're so "mind bogglingly useful that if they didn't exist it would be necessary to invent them." (Douglas Adams)

Search engine functionality is great. What I can't stand is the way google stalks you to find the best targeted advertising for you and that as of March 1, there will be no way to opt out of their stalking behaviour, which will link all of your connection points as though a single interface, including Gmail, Youtube, and Android.

I'm studying any alternatives to google right now and plan to do all I can to bar them from following me around.

[mc_deli]

Is it something to do with the 12bn profit announcement, a large slice of which comes from indexing content from which the creators do not profit?

[mc_deli]

or this:

"Notice that in one year Google uses 1/2 the power generated by the Hoover Dam–I wonder how much comes from its sweetheart deal on power from the Columbia River to power its data center in The Dalles, Oregon–represented by Senator Ron Wyden in the U.S. Senate. You know, the senator from Palo Alto High School with a hold on the PROTECT IP Act and who introduced the KAFKA Amendment that would require artists to file an action with the International Trade Commission in order to enforce their rights."

[Matt Allison]

Halliburton never logged everything I do. Exxon never spied on me.

And you're asking me to hate those companies more than Google???

ha.

Know your real enemy before it's too late.

[narcoman]

Originally Posted by Matt Allison

Halliburton never logged everything I do. Exxon never spied on me.

And you're asking me to hate those companies more than Google???

ha.

Know your real enemy before it's too late.

exactly - but for precisely the opposite reasons I suspect you mean! Be FAR more suspicious of Google.

[John Eppstein]

I have a love/hate relationship with Google. I love their search engine - it's the most effective and accurate on the web, bar none (albeit definitely not perfect.)

HOWEVER, like many creatives I hate Google for their stated position that they have the right to use our work without paying fair compensation,. for their financial and political aid to pirates, for their underwriting and promoting the anti-copyright crusade of Lawrence Lessig, and for their dishonest and underhanded influence they exert on the US political system outside the established legal lobbying channels by buying the voices of allegedly unbiased "experts" and "authorities" via their aggressive campaign of financial grants to strategic institutions - "stealth lobbying" which largely passes under the radar. For example it was Google money that was responsible for the widespread disinformation campaign that killed the recent anti-piracy legislation.

[rack gear]

google bully tactics for union busting...
The Future for Television or Google Wants to Burn Your Remote: More Google Union-Busting

google 500 million dollar pharma advertising fine
Google's $500 Million Pharma Ad Fine - Forbes

google piracy liability
Google's Piracy Liability - Forbes

google problems in the EU
Google's Chinese problems pale when compared to those in Europe

google loses in french map case
Google Maps fined in France for providing Free Services - Social Barrel

google video infringment in france
Google Fined In French Court For Not Stopping Video Copyright Abuse | paidContent

why google really killed sopa
The Real Reasons Google Killed SOPA/PIPA - Forbes

youtube was built on infringement and google rewarded them for it
Viacom vs. YouTube/Google: A Piracy Case in Their Own Words - DailyFinance

• A July 29 email conversation about competing video sites laid out the importance to YouTube of continuing to use the copyrighted material. "Steal it!" Chen said , and got a reply from Hurley, "hmmm, steal the movies?" Chen's answer: "we have to keep in mind that we need to attract traffic. how much traffic will we get from personal videos? remember, the only reason our traffic surged was due to a video of this type."

google profits from piracy
Dirty Money. Who Profits from Piracy?

and all of that is even BEFORE we get to privacy policies... google knows more about you than your mother and sells that data to advertisers for profit and there's not much you can do about... an uh oh... jee golly jeepers... they just combined the individual privacy policies of 17 different products into one single cross-referenced "now we know everything about you" single meta-data-base...

really?
Federal court expedites case on Google privacy policies - Post Tech - The Washington Post

In Short:

Google IS Evil.

wanna know more...
http://searchanddestroybook.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Search-Destroy...dp/0980038324/

[fritzschreiner]

Originally Posted by Don Hills

There shouldn't be any loss to the world if they are shut down, then.

- You do remember what the Internet was like before search engines, don't you? They're so "mind bogglingly useful that if they didn't exist it would be necessary to invent them." (Douglas Adams)

There'd be a loss if they were shut down, because it would mean somebody had been exercising powers they have no right to. If they left voluntarily, there'd be no loss.

Google has become a net negative, where value is concerned, IMO, because of their total focus on bulldozing as much targeted ad noise and spam under your noses that they can fit on a page. And they are systematically removing choice in the matter as with their new improved policies on opting out of their tracking of you.

It's not about search engines. They're coming out now to fill the original niche Google once did, only without the greed and tracking aspect that is the source of the "hate on" people have for Google.

ixquick for example, is decent if you enjoy your privacy.

[terryhart]

Originally Posted by John Eppstein

I have a love/hate relationship with Google. I love their search engine - it's the most effective and accurate on the web, bar none (albeit definitely not perfect.)

I tend to agree. I use a lot of Google products. I wouldn't say I "hate" them more than any other multi-billion dollar global corporation. There are many things they do that raise concerns with me, but at the end of the day, they're a business looking out for their bottom line, and I don't buy into the whole 'rah rah I hate corporations' spiel.

I'd just like to see the same amount of scrutiny to their business and lobbying practices that is applied to other companies -- something that is still very much lacking today. There's any number of things Google does day in and day out that, if it was done by the music industry or Hollywood, would cause the online mob to grab their pitchforks and head for the castle.

[Liquid360]

Originally Posted by terryhart

I tend to agree. I use a lot of Google products. I wouldn't say I "hate" them more than any other multi-billion dollar global corporation. There are many things they do that raise concerns with me, but at the end of the day, they're a business looking out for their bottom line, and I don't buy into the whole 'rah rah I hate corporations' spiel.

I'd just like to see the same amount of scrutiny to their business and lobbying practices that is applied to other companies -- something that is still very much lacking today. There's any number of things Google does day in and day out that, if it was done by the music industry or Hollywood, would cause the online mob to grab their pitchforks and head for the castle.

Indeed. Google is great. But they are not as "pure and devoted to the enlightenment of the world" as the general public thinks. They are a huge corporation that's in it for the money, just like the banking industry, or any other industry for that matter.

[John Eppstein]

This is a textbook example of what happens when you have weak or no government regulation of corporations.

[Don Hills]

Originally Posted by John Eppstein

This is a textbook example of what happens when you have weak or no government regulation of corporations.

You're an American citizen. You have the freedom to lobby for stronger Government regulation of corporations. Good luck with that.

[John Eppstein]

Originally Posted by Don Hills

You're an American citizen. You have the freedom to lobby for stronger Government regulation of corporations. Good luck with that.

Yeah, right!

[narcoman]

Originally Posted by John Eppstein

This is a textbook example of what happens when you have weak or no government regulation of corporations.

exactly! Same in the UK.