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Old 15th May 2012   #301
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so i asked my friend's kid about it last night, (a great kid who i've long suspected leads a double life as a dirty pirate!), and he gave me a 15 minute discourse on the various torrent clients and transmission protocols. holy shit there's alot out there, and some of them are very advanced.

after he went on to compare the various features of his favorite ones etc he picked an "easy, user friendly one" for an old, torrent challenged guy like me called "vuze". we downloaded and installed it together, and then things got interesting... scary interesting from my point of view!

i was amazed at how powerful these torrent clients are... they don't just download the files anymore, there's an integrated search engine, HD player, content subscription service, remote control options, drag and drop functionality from the interface... all at zero cost, with zero accountability for what you do with it... (besides your own conscience)

for the first time i truly understand how fvcked we really are...
WERE.

July is coming. We will be "unfvcked."
I think only to demonstrate to my Wife that yes, you CAN be unfvcked after actually being fvcked.
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WERE.
July is coming. We will be "unfvcked."
huh? what unfvcks us in july?

is there a powerful counter-piracy hack group hatching a global torrent-client-eater-virus or something?

if not, i don't see any way to unfvuck everything...
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so i asked my friend's kid about it last night, (a great kid who i've long suspected leads a double life as a dirty pirate!), and he gave me a 15 minute discourse on the various torrent clients and transmission protocols. holy shit there's alot out there, and some of them are very advanced.

after he went on to compare the various features of his favorite ones etc he picked an "easy, user friendly one" for an old, torrent challenged guy like me called "vuze". we downloaded and installed it together, and then things got interesting... scary interesting from my point of view!

i was amazed at how powerful these torrent clients are... they don't just download the files anymore, there's an integrated search engine, HD player, content subscription service, remote control options, drag and drop functionality from the interface... all at zero cost, with zero accountability for what you do with it... (besides your own conscience)

for the first time i truly understand how fvcked we really are...
to be honest i felt this a decade ago.... grokster and napster used to be awesome but then bittorrents and file sharing sites came out. never used bit torrents but always thought its no different to what napster used to be but is probably impossible to police.

that said i dont know many people who do download illegally these days... but am prob too old as well

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WERE.

July is coming. We will be "unfvcked."
I think only to demonstrate to my Wife that yes, you CAN be unfvcked after actually being fvcked.
dont believe the hype :D

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i was amazed at how powerful these torrent clients are... they don't just download the files anymore, there's an integrated search engine, HD player, content subscription service, remote control options, drag and drop functionality from the interface... all at zero cost, with zero accountability for what you do with it... (besides your own conscience)

for the first time i truly understand how fvcked we really are...
Well... not quite as zero as you might think. Did he show you the feature of Vuze (formerly called Azureus after a South American poison dart frog) where you can join a torrent swarm and see the IP and client name of everybody else on the swarm? uTorrent has a similar feature. So, unless you go through the hassle of setting your connection up through a proxy (not easy, because unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing the proxy will break key parts of the porotocol that are necessary if you want to use the "better" private sites) everything you do is visible to other users - which is how anti-<redacted> people trace BT users. Also everything you do gets logged by the BT tracker, so if it were possible to access those logs you'd have a record of what everybody using the site did during that logging period.

The problem, of course, is that unless you manage to plant a spy in the site's staff who can access the logs or seize the computer the tracker runs on detecting users is very labor intensive because you'd need to actually join each swarm (download the file) to see who else is there and you only have access while your file transfer is active.

However in July the major US ISPs will be implementing a "6 strikes" program against people who engage in <redacted> activity. Exactly how they determine who these people are is not yet clear but I think we'll find out......
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and... this just in...
Digital Music News - If Metallica Is Touring for the Money, Then We're All In Trouble...
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The fact that they even have to go through this coupled with the job losses whn they lost income, is a SHONDA!
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Well... not quite as zero as you might think. Did he show you the feature of Vuze (formerly called Azureus after a South American poison dart frog) where you can join a torrent swarm and see the IP and client name of everybody else on the swarm? uTorrent has a similar feature. So, unless you go through the hassle of setting your connection up through a proxy (not easy, because unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing the proxy will break key parts of the porotocol that are necessary if you want to use the "better" private sites) everything you do is visible to other users - which is how anti-<redacted> people trace BT users. Also everything you do gets logged by the BT tracker, so if it were possible to access those logs you'd have a record of what everybody using the site did during that logging period.

The problem, of course, is that unless you manage to plant a spy in the site's staff who can access the logs or seize the computer the tracker runs on detecting users is very labor intensive because you'd need to actually join each swarm (download the file) to see who else is there and you only have access while your file transfer is active.

However in July the major US ISPs will be implementing a "6 strikes" program against people who engage in <redacted> activity. Exactly how they determine who these people are is not yet clear but I think we'll find out......

have you seen this six strike program? it's nothing to be excited about.
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have you seen this six strike program? it's nothing to be excited about.
it excites me.
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