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Old 5th August 2006, 11:41 PM   #1
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I want a TV with eq, compressor and limiter :)

Too much getting involved with audio and now i really want a tv with internal dsp...I wanna be able to fine tune the sound:))

I hate the fact that they broadcast adverts louder compared to other programmes (at least thats the case in my country..)

Maybe i would sidechain the compressor of the tv with my girlfriend's voice :) whenever she talks, volume goes down:) or during football matches the opposite, whenever she talks the tv gets louder hahaha :))
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Old 6th August 2006, 12:07 AM   #2
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you joke, but lots of TV's these days have limiters built in. they usually call it AVC or AVL (automatic volume control) or something like that. plus, most have bass and trebel controls.
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Old 6th August 2006, 12:23 AM   #3
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of course im joking :) Nearly all tv's have tone control, some even have AVL, pseudo stereo etc. but i want real analog gear in my tv :) tv for audio geek :) e
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it won't help because the audio they send you is all smashed to hell anyway

I want a separated multi channel feed. Not their idea of a surround mix, but separate stems. But not so I can perfect the sound quality - I want control. I would love to watch a football or baseball game WITHOUT the chatter of those stupid announcers, but WITH the audio of the crowd noise at the stadium, the crack of the ball on the bat and so on.


I would like the music and the dialog and the sound effects all separate in dramas. I want to be able to turn down the deafening explosions and stop the trite music from drowning out the dialogue.

For comedies, I would like the option of muting the canned laughter and judging for myself whether what I am watching is actually amusing.

Or perhaps replacing the canned laughter with plunger-mute trombone fills.
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Old 6th August 2006, 11:03 AM   #5
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The volume increase during commercials was outlawed a year ago...where I live. It's a blessing.
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Old 6th August 2006, 03:23 PM   #6
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I guess as digital broadcasting evolves all these will come true (of course if there is a demand, firms only survive if they profit from something!)...Bilingual digital channels are readily available..but im not sure whether they just split one stereo channel into two monos or if they can actually add as much channels as they want over the top of the original so thay you can choose..
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Most HDTV shows are broadcast in 5.1 and I believe the format has the capacity for 7.1. All they would have to do is give you 8 stems instead of their surround mix, which gives you no control. The technology is already there, but the people who have the ability to implement it would be making their own jobs obsolete if they did so.


The demand for this may be limited to ME right now, but if it were made available, I think millions of people would love it.
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[quote]All they would have to do is give you 8 stems instead of their surround mix, which gives you no control.


Wow , 8 stems , 8 times 6 tracks(5.1) = 48tracks.
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Old 7th August 2006, 06:57 PM   #9
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You could probably slap a high en compressor in the audio outs of your TV ad a mic aimed at the sofa, during football, just swich it to expander
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it won't help because the audio they send you is all smashed to hell anyway

I want a separated multi channel feed. Not their idea of a surround mix, but separate stems. But not so I can perfect the sound quality - I want control. I would love to watch a football or baseball game WITHOUT the chatter of those stupid announcers, but WITH the audio of the crowd noise at the stadium, the crack of the ball on the bat and so on.


I would like the music and the dialog and the sound effects all separate in dramas. I want to be able to turn down the deafening explosions and stop the trite music from drowning out the dialogue.

For comedies, I would like the option of muting the canned laughter and judging for myself whether what I am watching is actually amusing.

Or perhaps replacing the canned laughter with plunger-mute trombone fills.

You've got some good ideas joeq.

I'd imagine your sports mix would be preferred by tons of viewers. Seems like any show or movie should have the option to raise volume of dialogue or music independently.

Someone needs to make this happen!
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All they would have to do is give you 8 stems instead of their surround mix, which gives you no control.


Wow , 8 stems , 8 times 6 tracks(5.1) = 48tracks.
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no, I said 8 stems INSTEAD of their surround mix. HD can currently deliver 7.1 audio. That's 8 tracks that you already have and have control over, in a menu if not on your remote. INSTEAD of an already done surround mix, I want my 8 tracks in stems- one track of dialog, one track of sfx, couple tracks of music. etc.

I am not asking for each "stem" to be in surround! mono is fine for me. I would gladly give up the surround for the control. My point is that the technology to provide this is already here.

We already have a system that can handle 8 tracks of independent audio on the consumer side. Certainly at the TV station, they could mix whatever signals down to whatever channels they wanted. All we need is for the consumers to force the content providers to break it up so that we have the control of how we want to hear it.

The breakdown should be standardized, i.e. if the sports commentators were always on channel 8, you could have a menu system where you could set up and name presets- so I would have a preset called "at the game" which would have channel 8 muted and only field and stadium mics on.

with 8 tracks, they could even give you the stadium sound in 5.1 and still have two channels left over for the announcers. If there was a timeout and you were suddenly interested in John Madden's analysis of the coach's stragegy, then you could unmute his channel for a bit. When he starts telling a story about something that happened 20 years ago, you could shut him up.


As I said earlier, unlike emreyazgin's original premise, I am not looking for an opportunity to "remix" the audio with EQ, compression and reverb, I just want to add some basic choices to my viewing experience.

Not even as an AE, but just as any sports fan or movie buff.
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