Hi guys!
I don't know if I should put this in the moan zone...if it should sorry!
Ive allways been connected to dance music since the last 15 years.
Had my gigs worldwide, released my records and always had a sense of pride to be related to house/techno.
I still remember when people used to look at us as (night guys, drug addicts, guys from "bad" music, all the same...etc)
I never had connection to drugs and always fought to state "dance" music as something as professional as rock/pop music.
Nowadays I feel the opposite.
Its bullshhhit dance music everywhere!!
Even in sneaker shops the damn cheesy beat is always there playing loud! Radio! Tv! Commercials!
Of course there is plenty of good and amazing house/techno music but Im feeling kind of sick of danceable tunes.
This is actually messing around with my record production. When I start feeling the "danceable" groove...I remember the crap Im injected via media everyday.
Underground is dead?
Underground used to have a parallel way of evolution with mainstream stuff back in the days...but I do not see a way of having an underground survival these days (regarding gigs, money etc - everyone's got to live)
Am I the only one feeling sick about electronic music?
Even good guys like Ritchie Hawtin became a damn joke! According to my standards.
Evolution has its benefits, but in electronic music (despite a lot of people argue about the "endless possibilities - loops fxs 12.000 decks) I still haven't find anything BETTER than an "hand made feeling" dj set from back then!
Everything sounds the same...there's a mixing stereotype...an fx stereotype...all you hear is different chosen tunes!
Im letting myself go now...
One of the best dj mixes ive heard lately was johnny d* for example:
He mixed baaaad as hell, everything out of tempo and no feeling at all in the mix...but each record the guy played was worth a full "perfect gig" from any other guy at another place another time.
Sorry for moaning here :p felt like I needed to write this!
Hit me! Bring it on :D
yeah, it always seems to go like that though. Somethings cool then everyone wants it and its no longer cool anymore. I've pretty much been ignoring mainstream music for like 6-7 yrs now. Not because its mainstream, but I really just don't like the music. Best advice is just don't listen, ignore it and listen to/make what you want
Don't worry, just like trance and Paul Oakenfold in the late 90s and early 2000s, dubstep and electronic pop will be dubbed as uncool soon enough. In my utopian society, a new underground genre is created and has music that isn't compressed like a panini and rewards patient listeners. It also has new, undiscovered sounds created by super computers. I just can not believe the coolest stuff we can create with these new computer tools are dubstep basslines. Patience pedrogoya, but for now, put on your skinny jeans.
In part it's because it's a legitimate way to make money that you hear so much boring stuff . The underground seems no different than it ever was. If it was a sure thing it couldn't be called underground.
The positive side is today we have more relatively cheap, quality, playable gear then has been available in a long ass time. I've been hearing more good stuff lately than I have in a while and this plays a part of it.
Brostep and trance going pop has been great and left room for more interesting personal stuff that's as good to listen to as it is to dance to.
We've been in a bit of a dark age, yeah. I guess similar to a lot of eras like the late 60s with subpar garage bands and late 70s with half baked prog wannabes, but things always improve. This time it's just taken a lot longer!
I don't blame computers, but I think in addition to doing awesome things for music they let boring bastards sit down and work out how to sound like somebody else as long as they put the time in. The "advantage" to the old days was probably that you had to spend way more money and way more time to wank off imitating others with music gear and that discouraged most people. you now you get crappy copied music that sounds like someone else, but doesn't feel like anything!
I agree. A recent rave I went to had like 3 hours of dubstep being played. It was cool for liek 15mins, but after that it got ridiculous. Its just not that fun, and alot of it sounds the same. One artist insisted on playing knife party tracks instead of his own... I really like psytrance (I am a psy producer or upcoming as I like to say it) and alot of it is keeping it real these days. Even so, I see the beatport list infected with these garbage recycled tracks.
I will say that I hate these FM leads you hear (you know the ones that destroy your ears) from artists like Flux Pavillion. How did that get popular?
Better for the Moan Zone. Thread likely to be moved.
There is more to electronic music than dance music.
In fact I rarely listen to dance music cause the last time I danced my girl asked me if someone opened a can of nerve gas.
Having said that i don't listen to it much, but respect some of it. There is always the classic electronic stuff like Kraftwerk, Eno and Tangerine Dream. This stuff is fun to revisit.
Modern stuff like Solar Fields, Aes Dana, Carbon Based Lifeforms, Boards of Canada. Some of it you can dance to, but I don't consider it dance music.
Quite a dilemma.
On the plus side the average gear slut nowadays has more power at his fingertips than ever before in history... so there must be some good stuff somewhere... right?
yeah and in shops just wear headphones all the time (talk really loud to the ppl. trying to sell shoes to you)
if anyone complains, explain that it's your personal frequency protection shield disguised as headphones and you have to leave them on, since you got a sceduled transmission from the Crab Nebula incoming. that'd solve the issue.
yeah there's still underground, but a lot of ppl. have been fed so much crap, that they've developed a taste for it. http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/07/paris-.../#.T5owXr_gDrQ
oh and you can stop trying to promote it to mainstream now. it won't work. mainstream now means milking of a product until it hurts. blasting the real stuff (made because of love, whatever genre) loud and proud is another thing. destroyyy them wiff frequenccieeeeesssss
since this has been moved to the Moan Zone...... feel free to let it rip
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well to be honest people that LISTEN to dance music are a bit weird.. Dancing to dance music I can see that, but playing it whilst you are relaxing in the sofa.. I don't know about that. nnn tss nnn tss
well to be honest people that LISTEN to dance music are a bit weird.. Dancing to dance music I can see that, but playing it whilst you are relaxing in the sofa.. I don't know about that. nnn tss nnn tss
It's not all just electrohouse and dubstep... There are more chilled out electronic dance music too, like deep house or the mellower Detroit techno tracks. Actually most of the electronic records that I own probably wouldn't work in a peak hour club environment.
Talking about stuff like this for example:
Not exactly Avicii... not saying that it's better, but at least it's different from that,
that is pretty mellow & nice yes, and I can play something like the K&D sessions as well for a relaxed moment.. but I just as easily will reach for some real jazz or listening albums that will let my mind take a trip.. like Reptil his comment about Eno forgetting the bass drum I like that, it's not necessary. although in your example I like the way it sounds.. it's smooth and not obnoxious I don't think my neighbours have anything like that in their music collection.
The only people I feel sorry for are ones that have to work in certain 'retail' outlets... one of my mates is a very good house dj, with a +5k record collection, he has to work in department store and gets bombarded with this crap everyday... poor bastard...
Me personally I couldn't give a flying ****, don't listen to the radio and only go to places where I like the music, or where I'm playing.
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well to be honest people that LISTEN to dance music are a bit weird.. Dancing to dance music I can see that, but playing it whilst you are relaxing in the sofa.. I don't know about that. nnn tss nnn tss
so you dont like pop music? so you are saying doctor luke is gay.
Is there something wrong with being gay? you say it like that's an insult....?
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Oh yes. well to each his own I guess, I just can't deal with stuff like that it has an effect on me which makes me restless and annoyed.
But I'm sure some of the stuff I can chill on has that effect on others as well.
Oh yes. well to each his own I guess, I just can't deal with stuff like that it has an effect on me which makes me restless and annoyed.
But I'm sure some of the stuff I can chill on has that effect on others as well.
I am almost positive I will begin to hate this stuff in 8 years.
I agree. A recent rave I went to had like 3 hours of dubstep being played. It was cool for liek 15mins, but after that it got ridiculous. How did that get popular?
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Originally Posted by pedrogoya
Hi guys!
Am I the only one feeling sick about electronic music?
Electronic music does not = Dance music.
And in fact Dance music doesn't have to be electronic at all.
You're referring to Electronic Dance Music.
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