17th August 2012
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#1 | | Banned
Joined: Jan 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 130
Thread Starter | Is Apple killing the upgrade cycle?
With the release of Mountain lion 21 days ago came the proclamation that OSx upgrades will be coming once a year from now on.
Once a year!
Like...
Seriously.
That is probably the beez neez if you want to notify your digital friends of your computing activities... but what about for audio use?
I seem to see the potential for a contrary attitude to unfold. Avid for example, have yet to qualify PT10 with 10.7.3 yet... let alone 10.8. With a month of ML rolling in ever so quickly... and potentially only 11 more months of ML as the latest OSx... will audio companies break away from Apples future of incessant upgrades?
Mountain Lion isn't supposedly a simple upgrade from lion... yet even Reaper are yet to release a qualified version for it.
I can't imagine going through an upgrade every year. Its a ball breaker... and quite pointless. Will Apples milking of the techno-culture cash cow beat some sense into audio software developers... or more importantly, audio software users that upgrading is a means to no end at all?
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18th August 2012
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#2 | | Gear interested
Joined: May 2012
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Don't update. Problem solved.
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18th August 2012
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#3 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Netherlands  |
Exactly, jump on the wagon when your machine needs to be replaced.
of course it would be fine then to have a decent machine to upgrade to ... holding out for 2013 Mac Pro. | 
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19th August 2012
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#4 | | Banned
Joined: Jan 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 130
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by johansugarev  Don't update. Problem solved. | Jumping the wagon is exactly what I am referring to. If there is a mass jumping of the wagon in the pro audio community, the upgrade cycle will be killed.
The question is... whether in a professional studio context, it will happen. For over a decade a lot of prefessional studios with high flow of freelance engineers have upgraded rigidly to meet demand.
If you are a bedroom producer or are the only engineer in the studio, I can see how "jumping ship" is absolutely a viable option.
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19th August 2012
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#5 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 765
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Some of the very pro studios that I know of are still running PT 7 with Tiger.
Actually, none of the ones that I know of try to keep their rigs super current. They upgrade VERY slowly.
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19th August 2012
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#6 | | Banned
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 74
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If it aint broken dont fix it right. I dont see a need for upgrading OS when it all runs great.
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19th August 2012
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#7 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 2,043
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Yup. My music machine is still on 10.6.8 and running great.
I downloaded 10.7 three weeks before 10.8 came out, but have not installed it. I bought it just in case some of my software requires it down the road and I will stay away from 10.8 until .3 or .4
Lion works fine on my iMac btw, but other than Mail I don't see any real improvements. Resizing windows from any corner is cool, I suppose, but not a must-have.
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19th August 2012
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#8 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2002 Location: LA
Posts: 3,116
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I feel like they're going to start making it harder and harder to skip versions. I was on Leopard still until recently and I had to install snow Leopard first just so I could get the app store so that I could buy the mountain lion upgrade. And now of course everything runs much more slowly  | |
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19th August 2012
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#9 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2007 Location: West Coast
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I downloaded 10.7 literally the hour they were upgrading the app store to ML (like when the download was done, the window refreshed and lion had been replaced in the store!) haven't installed it but bought it after getting the McDSP 64 bit beta email... LION is mandatory for the new version I'm sure others, especially those re-coding for 64 will soon follow (not super happy about it)
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20th August 2012
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#10 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,548
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2012 marked my studio Mac Pro upgrade to Snow Leopard and PT10. Everything works. I'm not messing with it. If the Mac Pro dies and I have to sub in my G5 with PT8, just to finish off a session, then I'll have to get a new (or newish) Mac Pro and will upgrade to the oldest newest upgrade I can (like Lion, possibly).
If it ain't broke, for the love of sanity, don't fix it!!
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20th August 2012
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#11 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2008
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Mountain Lion this, Kitty Cat that. Can we just stick to numbers?
Oh and if I still used Macs on a regular basis I wouldn't bother upgrading. What's my ROI? Not much...skip.
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22nd August 2012
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#12 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jun 2011 Location: PA
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Even if the OS updates on a yearly cycle, until 64 bits becomes too little there should not be any major compatibility issues between versions the same way there was between X.6 and X.7
Unless Apple does something really unexpected, I would not expect Mac OS to see significant changes to Darwin's kernel or any of the KEXTs. Also, an OS that changes on a regular cycle kind of forces developers to stop making calls to parts of the OS or the system logic that are not technically there to be used by non-os or critical processes.
This might lead to programs running better and more reliably at the cost of some of speed. I personally just do not foresee anything so fundamentally revolutionary in the 5 years that it would invalidate a properly coded application and require a rewrite or even a patch, that is just my opinion, but who knows where the world is going till it gets there.
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22nd August 2012
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#13 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jul 2012 Location: Kabul
Posts: 195
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apples will be poo in the new centurty
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23rd August 2012
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#14 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Sacramento
Posts: 2,101
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23rd August 2012
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#15 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2007 Location: West Coast
Posts: 1,943
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Originally Posted by oobwa ee apples will be poo in the new centurty | Maybe... But as of right now they are the most valuable company in the history of the world so that would be quite a drop!
Also, doom64, if you can't make a ROI on a $29 software upgrade you got bigger issues - HA!!!  | |
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