31st May 2012
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | I Forgot How to Play Guitar??!!
Anyone here switch instruments and struggle to play the one that got you started?
I've been playing guitar of all kinds for over 20 years. I picked up synth for the first time in the last year and a half and have been focusing on that rig and not playing my guitars hardly at all.
It may be just that synths have such different relationship the user. I wanted to get more into sound design with greater range of tones. Been loving it.
My keyboard technique is not great but improving. I have never played before.
Oddly I play guitar right handed and my left is more dexterous. Its my left hand that gives me trouble on the keyboard, yet I can shred like crazy with my right.
Just having trouble getting back into guitar mode.
Has this happened to anyone else?
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1st June 2012
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by shanabit | Thanx!
For a minute I thought I was the only one! Only one post? C'mon
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1st June 2012
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#4 | | Gear doesn't kill people.
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The trickiest thing going from guitar to piano is that on guitar, for your hands to be "synced" properly your fretting hand has to be a nanosecond ahead of your picking hand. This doesn't work so well on piano!
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by creegstor The trickiest thing going from guitar to piano is that on guitar, for your hands to be "synced" properly your fretting hand has to be a nanosecond ahead of your picking hand. This doesn't work so well on piano! | You hit the nail on the head! That is exactly the issue. My left hand is just dead, man.
I usually keep it simple by playing longer sustained notes with the lft and noodle with the right.
Though I have heard that those who play keys first, than guitar have a harder time adjusting to those guitarists picking up keys. It's only a matter of time when I get it. Just ahead of myself as always.
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1st June 2012
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#6 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Nov 2011 Location: York
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Originally Posted by verve92 You hit the nail on the head! That is exactly the issue. My left hand is just dead, man.
I usually keep it simple by playing longer sustained notes with the lft and noodle with the right.
Though I have heard that those who play keys first, than guitar have a harder time adjusting to those guitarists picking up keys. It's only a matter of time when I get it. Just ahead of myself as always. | I have that problem when switching from Piano to Guitar, especially when I focus on my Piano for long periods of time. I find that if I play the piano for a short period of time (say an hour) and then switch to guitar for a little while and then go back and forth between the two, it teaches my brain how to quickly adjust itself, I find the transition a lot easier now.
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by verve92 You hit the nail on the head! That is exactly the issue. My left hand is just dead, man.
I usually keep it simple by playing longer sustained notes with the lft and noodle with the right.
Though I have heard that those who play keys first, than guitar have a harder time adjusting to those guitarists picking up keys. It's only a matter of time when I get it. Just ahead of myself as always. |
Question?? Are you trying to play a Bass line in the left hand? If not, just play the octaves in the left with the occasional bounce to the 5th or fourth in between the octaves.
IF your playin in a band situation you will most assuredly get yelled at by the bass player for " running all over my notes"
In a band situation I dont play octaves in the left hand and usually dont go any further than the F below middle C with my left hand when playing SYNTH.
What I used to do to help with this is I would set my keyboard to only transmit from that F on up and anything below that got cut off. I could still play those left hand octave parts UNTIL I learned how not to.
The HANON book really will fix your issue, I cant recommend it enough. It will make both hands EVEN as far as speed, dexterity, fluidness etc.
Added bonus , it has all the scales with exercises for those as well
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1st June 2012
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#8 | | Gear Head
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If it's any consolation, I'm experiencing something similar...
I spent almost ten years playing violin & viola in school. Spent high school playing guitar as well as the others. Stopped playing violin after high school.
Started trying to get back into the violin, and it just *is not* happening easy at all. Went to a couple of local instructors that just didn't have a good approach. Went to one last night that actually started to open up some things with the instrument, especially my bowing.
If I knew it was going to be this hard to get back up to snuff, I would never have stopped playing violin. :-/
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1st June 2012
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#9 | | Gear miniak
Joined: Nov 2011 Location: A Canadian in Istanbul
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Originally Posted by verve92 Anyone here switch instruments and struggle to play the one that got you started?
I've been playing guitar of all kinds for over 20 years. I picked up synth for the first time in the last year and a half and have been focusing on that rig and not playing my guitars hardly at all.
It may be just that synths have such different relationship the user. I wanted to get more into sound design with greater range of tones. Been loving it.
My keyboard technique is not great but improving. I have never played before.
Oddly I play guitar right handed and my left is more dexterous. Its my left hand that gives me trouble on the keyboard, yet I can shred like crazy with my right.
Just having trouble getting back into guitar mode.
Has this happened to anyone else? | Sounds very familiar except that it is my lefthand (previously my fret hand) that is more dexterous than my right - getting better but far behind. Really awkward reaching for a mod or pitch wheel with your right hand. |
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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I also play both, and the biggest issue I find is the disconnect that is required between left and right hands with keyboard.
With guitar, left and right hands work in tandem, even when doing a Chet thing. But piano needs two distinct brain patterns, one for each hand. Left, rhythm and bass, and right, melody and phrasing.
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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I forgot how to play accordion about 30 years ago... people are still rejoicing.
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#12 | | Gear maniac
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The biggest problem I have switching between guitar (my primary instrument and writing cool) and keyboard (which I use to write outside the box, if you follow) is contact with the fingernails in my right hand. They get in the way, but I use them all the time when I play guitar. Nothing sounds quite like fingernails. |
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3rd June 2012
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by at4033 The biggest problem I have switching between guitar (my primary instrument and writing cool) and keyboard (which I use to write outside the box, if you follow) is contact with the fingernails in my right hand. They get in the way, but I use them all the time when I play guitar. Nothing sounds quite like fingernails.  | Excellent responses thus far.
Funny you mention. I find it is easier to write melodies on my three octave synths.
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3rd June 2012
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#14 | | Would-Be-Teaboy
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Ireland
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Bass, Guitar, Keys and currently starting trumpet.
I think you just need to sit down with a guitar for at least 15 minutes a day even when concentrating on other instruments, just to keep that part of your brain alive. It can seem silly, but it'll add up in the long run.
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4th June 2012
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#15 | | Gear nut
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The same thing happened to me a few years ago..
I had been playing guitar for 10 years, about 4 hours a day, struggling to play everything that i liked technical-wise ( Brian Setzer, Knopfler, and Metallica :D).. I could play Setzer's rendition of Sleepwalk almost like the man himself.
And then i bought a piano. Almost didn't touch a guitar for about two and a half years, and since then i've just lost it..
Now i'm o moderate pianoplayer, and a good guitarplayer, but only 30% of my guitarplaying abilities are in my fingers now. Sucks big time, i HATE piano :p
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5th June 2012
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#16 | | Gear Guru
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I may have forgot a song for a few mins, but I gather up whats going on in it pretty quick, but not another instrument ?.
That is wild.
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7th June 2012
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#17 | | Lives for gear
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I suppose I'm lucky, as I don't experience those problems playing instruments that just use hands. However, going from trumpet to trombone to sax and back is a real PITA on a job.
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