Feel like quitting (Had enough) ?

[mrfortune]

Use this feeling and make the beat music you ever have , I think working in various genres helps as well if your counting on one sound it's gonna be tough venture out an then blend those elements. Find an artist to develop and put the project out , good for credits and showcases your production real world

[beat you down]

just quit.

see what it does for you.

you can always start again.

i do the same from time to time.


and to really make it you need a little talent, a lot of right contacts and a even more luck. people don't seem to like the luck part as they are brainwashed to think hard work will get you there. but you def need a lot of luck and some felatio lol.

all these success stories are one in a mil. there's a mil fail stories for each of them, most working hard and are just as talented. just do the math.

[LeoLeoLeo]

I quit for 1 year. Loved it. Didn't push a button the whole time. When I came back, was in even more demand.

[elpedro]

don't give up!
keep pushing 'till the sheet's up the top of the hill and let it roll down!
i went through what you have in my early twenties -i am 50 now-and gave up.
i took another 15 years to find something else i was good at,and made some money running a small business,leaving me too busy and tired to make music,and then the kid comes along,etc.i have sold my business and am semi-retired now,working part-time consulting I.T.i have finally taken up music again and have bought some nice gear and guitars,vsti's etc.i am now desperately trying to make up for lost time,and discovering who i really am,music is in my D.N.A and i should not have ignored it,and given up on it!
feels like the real me has been dormant for all those years!(tiny violins play),be who you are and if that is a musician,engineer,producer than be that!music business is cut-throat,always has been that's for sure.but the same can be said for any other career path you might take,and than your heart and soul won't be in it,and you will have to deny a large part of yourself!
find that fire,burn that passion's flame and let it connect with others'.That is what life is all about PASSION!
you only deny it to the detriment of yourself!
just my 2 cents worth anyway
keep the fire burning bro!

[Hobbs_Won]

Just draw your inspiration and make the music you love....and pump it out.

And network with people....

That's really all you can do man....

if you're going to break your back trying to make money off a very unforgiving industry, just remember, this world owes you nothing. So, if you really love music...just go into it knowing this.

Don't be one of those people that sapped all their creativity and are just some pissed off, bitter folks who do nothing but resent the time they invested because it didn't work out how they wanted.

Like somebody said before...there's 100,000 failure stories for every success story.

[jdsowa]

The ugly reality is that radio beats aren't terribly hard to make. There are thousands upon thousands of people in this country that could churn out radio ready material. Yet there are only a few slots for these people to get real work.

It's like when the Wii first came out. Plenty of people were lined up with the cash, but there just weren't enough units to go around. The folks who weren't lucky enough got screwed over and paid $800 for one on ebay.

You're playing the lottery. You probably won't win, but the only way you'll have a chance is if you keep buying that ticket.

[cowboycoalminer]

Originally Posted by Gengee21

If your in music for money, your in the wrong business. Do something else for money. Like someone posted earlier - go to college and get a descent paying job so you can fund your passion. If you just so happen to make a little cheese with music, just consider it a bonus. If you make music that you truly love and not to jump on some bandwagon, someone will recognize it and you will be exposed homy. Do it for the love not the $$ - you will be happier.

+1

I'd wager that less than 1 percent of people in the music "business" make enough to support themselves much less a family. Make your "business" interests or better said, your livelihood top priority in life. A good education, a career that offers top dollar, then use your passion for music to enrich your life. Sounds like right now it's bringing you down. That's sad. Don't expect to make a living at this fellas. If it happens great, but don't put too much hope into it. If one does, they will no doubt be disappointed.

[Stackx]

P. Diddy made 45 million last year!

His baby mama's are rich as fucccc!

[Karloff70]

Sounds like you have a sore back passage. I suggest either install some asbestos in there and keep going with the same priorities, i.e. try to get close to the already successful and exercise that asbestos back passage or change tack, and get on a "I'll get some shit going MY STYLE" and see who comes to YOU when it sounds.

Stands to reason if your shit is good enough for quality others to graise on, it would be even better done to only your standard. Of course this might not pay immediately.......or at all if you don't pull it off. But shit, if it does you'd actually find yourself in YOUR situation. Meanwhile get a two day a week gig of whatever pays enough and dig into making some good music all the other hours.....

Or ignore all that....in any case, good luck. I hate stories of sore passages. Always involves a talented person being taken the piss out of.

[descry]

most of us have thought about quitting at one point or other. just keep going...

[Prince Ramsey]

Originally Posted by Gengee21

If your in music for money, your in the wrong business. Do something else for money. Like someone posted earlier - go to college and get a descent paying job so you can fund your passion. If you just so happen to make a little cheese with music, just consider it a bonus. If you make music that you truly love and not to jump on some bandwagon, someone will recognize it and you will be exposed homy. Do it for the love not the $$ - you will be happier.

[MIDIMobster]

Originally Posted by Stackx

P. Diddy made 45 million last year!

His baby mama's are rich as fucccc!

How come women can get knocked up by a rich guy and then just sit back and get taken care of for the next 18 years? why can't guys have the same thing?! :'(

[DesmondA]

I was just watching an interview with Mark Ronson when he was explaining a time he went through a similar situation. After his first CD came out (here comes the fuzz) he had a decent buzz off of that. He then started working with a new label artist, but then her project tanked. And now his peers, people such as Kanye West and The Neptunes completely skyrocketed to megastars while he was still recovering from the brick. Long story short, his method to get back on his feet was to get back to the essence, and just do music that he loved from the heart.

I would suggest the same, remember why you even got into music and attack that full force.

[WarmAudio]

Originally Posted by SFB

Sounds like you've already gone further than 90% of producers ever will. You obviously have a lot of talent. I say keep pushing towards your goals.

Agree!

[Namias]

Not that it has any thing to do with music but just to give you a boost to hang in there . John Stewart from the Daily Show used to go into a radio station every day that Adam Carolla worked at and worked for free . He wanted the experience and knew he had the talent to go places and look at him now. Adam ( from the man show) tells the story on his podcast to let people know that nobody is a overnight success . That If you really want it you have to push for it . For every failure there comes experience and knowledge . I made a demo 15 years ago and sent it to every record company and not one single reply except from Sony who sent a letter stating it wasn't thier style . I was in a Grunge band . After that I quit and am only now getting back to writing but wish I tried harder . Don't Give up if you think you have something to offer . Dont be like me a 42 year old construction worker thinking back what could have been . Give it 150 % and go till you can't go no more and then you will know what could have been . If its in your heart then fight for it . It wasn't in mine .

You can always take a break . See if you miss it . Dave Pensado was living out of his car for a while . Look where he is now .

[Halloween]

The sooner you quit the sooner someone else well take the success you would of had. The music "industy" works on the old crow standard, after 95% quit the 5% become successful. The longer you stay in, the better your chances get, because while I was typing this, more people quit than joined.

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by DesmondA

I was just watching an interview with Mark Ronson when he was explaining a time he went through a similar situation. After his first CD came out (here comes the fuzz) he had a decent buzz off of that. He then started working with a new label artist, but then her project tanked. And now his peers, people such as Kanye West and The Neptunes completely skyrocketed to megastars while he was still recovering from the brick. Long story short, his method to get back on his feet was to get back to the essence, and just do music that he loved from the heart.

I would suggest the same, remember why you even got into music and attack that full force.

This

[tstrahle]

There is only one guarantee in this business, if you quit you fail.

I understand feeling used. I've done a lot of freebie or might as well be freebie sessions to get experience and make connections. But I learned a lot along the way. In LA, and I imagine in many places there are people that will get your hopes up, bs you and sell you on their dream. I always say "I'll believe it when the tenth check clears". I don't get too excited even when maybe I should.

I've wanted to quit at least four times since moving out here, but my wife wouldn't let me. Things have never been better. And get better every month as success tends to breed success.

Sorry for all the cliches.

[Storyville]

Originally Posted by jdsowa

The ugly reality is that radio beats aren't terribly hard to make. There are thousands upon thousands of people in this country that could churn out radio ready material. Yet there are only a few slots for these people to get real work.

It's like when the Wii first came out. Plenty of people were lined up with the cash, but there just weren't enough units to go around. The folks who weren't lucky enough got screwed over and paid $800 for one on ebay.

You're playing the lottery. You probably won't win, but the only way you'll have a chance is if you keep buying that ticket.

You know this from personal experience eh?


Basically, if you haven't felt like quitting a couple of times (at least) you haven't been doing it that long. That's that whole "paying dues" thing.

[TheArk]

Originally Posted by Maine

Hey guys,

I think i've had enough...

I love music, I have always loved making music and at one point there was nothing like it...(I still love it) but i'm a little discouraged i've had some of the biggest opportunities, more than most people I know that are on the grind.

For example.

I recently got back from L.A from working with a very prominent production team that produces for Justin Bieber, Chris Brown, JoJo, J-Lo, and so forth.. And I feel used.. I've dedicated months upon months helping produce a project for one of there own development artists and nothing has come out of it. At one point I was on the verge of signing with Sean Kingston's label (TIME IS MONEY) as an in house producer..and that fell thru. There are many other similar situations that i've been in that haven't gone exactly as I had planned. I've spent a lot of money, and time and I don't know if i can afford to keep going anymore. I've noticed people like to squeeze you in this industry and then toss you.

Does anyone have any similar stories? Did anything come out of it? Is there any reason to keep going?

Any advice would be great!

Your already 'in' the industry. Just cause your not signed doesnt mean anything. Apparently you got the talent, keep grinding. You only fail as soon as you give up

[Nell]

quitting should not be broguth up if you say you truly LOVE MUSIC and mean it. I get down alot, but i sure aswell will never quit till i get somewhere. and according you your experience, you've already been somewhere compared to a majoirty. if you can do it onces, oyu can do it again, but better and more knowledgable that time through.

[Steelburner40]

I think the major problem may not be a question of weather u are good or not but are u breaking the mold and offering something the other producers cant offer. Honestly what u mentioned is exactly what the big dogs do. They get good producers and helpers to help them complete work and to streamline project time. The part they dont tell you is that this is also your audition. The music industry is small and everyone knows everyone so just being around the big dogs wont give them a reason to let you in.U must have something undeniable that they want to keep you around. Being the great nice guy that always does a perfect mix aint shit. Maybe you should look at your package and your actual product as an engineer cause guaranteed none of the great engineers are where they are just because they are good at their job. They also are good business men and every individual around them is an investment. That is the exact reason why you have rich guys that are complete assholes. And no disrespect but coming on the internet and crying saying you are gonna quit is a guaranteed sign of a good and hardworking guy with a lack of agressiveness or originality. Doing exactly what these guys ask you will get you exactly what they asked you. Some times u gotta **** shit up. Tell Dr.Dr dre that the mix sounds like shit and explain why EFFECTIVELY. U may get kicked out the studio but if u are as good as you say you are and no one else around u can compare they will come back..



P.S. Its just my opinion. I aint rich and i dont have shit if ur offended im sorry. Take it or leave it.

[3rd Degree]

I don't know how many times I said I want to quit. Sometimes I take a break. Now I just work on small projects when it gets rough. It may or may not put some money in my pocket but at least I know that I am as valuable as anyone else because it's usually just me and somebody else. Sometimes it's some songs, sometimes it's a real project without a budget, sometimes it's hip hop, sometimes its really outside of hip hop.

At the end of the day, that keeps me going. It feels good to be stuck in a project you are feeling and know that when you have a low/non paying opportunity that you can say "NO". That doesn't necessarily mean you say no but you won't feel bad if you do. Often, that's when good things happen to me as well. People who want you to work for free put some money up, or at least show love, shout you out, etc.

If you quit, quit. Just don't sell your gear. I have taken months off with no intention to come back but my gear stays, and stays setup. I always come back. I know way to many cats who sold off 10k worth of gear for a fraction of that, only to restart without a solid platform. If you really feel like you are not coming back, put something up for sale...I bet you give that piece one last go before you part which may keep you, may not.

I have been where you are at, maybe more like close to where you where at, just haven't got as far yet. I know plenty of people who have been in the same place.

[halcyo]

Obviously you're good. With so many clowns out there, even what 'little' you've accomplished proves that you're probably in the top few percent of folks doing this stuff.

Change it up. Produce something out of your comfort zone. Network with some new people. See what happens!

(This is all advice that I need to follow right now too. I know how you feel!)

[UncleBubba]

Let's be honest. If you are posting here that you want to quit. You have already failed. Stop wasting your time. Move on to something else the will make you happy.

Good Luck.

[tstrahle]

Some good perspective on this thread. The are an abundant lack of guarantees in this business. So often a team will get together and donate their skills and time, musician/writer, singer/lyricist, engineer/producer, etc. all coming together to write a song to get a shot on a major record. Maybe competing with another 50 amazing teams with a hundred songs. Everyone is taking the same risk generally. Sometimes it pays off, usually it doesn't. If the chemistry is right magic and success can happen.

[dreams718]

Keep going its a dream imagine living a dream keep going this is your love

[drBill]

Originally Posted by SFB

^^^^^^^^ THAT is the truth. Look at it for awhile. Envision what it feels like in the middle of the tangled knot. Backwards, upside down, tangled up, head over heels. I've been doing this long enough that I've been successful on a few different musical fronts. I'm in the midst of the tangled mess on another now. I'm not gonna quit. Are you? The pathway is very convoluted, and equally simple when you "make it".

One thing I can guarantee you.

Winners...

Never...

Quit...

[Beat Poet]

Something positive can be pulled out of wanting to quit - and I don't mean when you're just sitting around thinking "I've had enough", but that moment when you're about one minute away from saying that's it, I'm done. It's obvious something has to change (otherwise you wouldn't have got to that point) and sometimes within a couple of days, you end up figuring out what you need to do.

[scruffydog]

Just when you feel like quitting is the moment to push on.
..until the fad lady sings never give up....NEVER.

we have to not rely on others.
we have to carve our own path in the studio.

these setbacks you mention.....i know what you mean.
but please...get over it as fast as you can.
personally i was told by a top notch and still world leading programmer/engineer/ musical director...
that i was too sentimental to'make it'.

or i thougt thats what he said....?
who cares!?!!
just get on with it....opportunities will come by again.

i love that about life....

but you got to work it baby!