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How simple can it be to score a big hit

This is n°1 in all charts in belgium, and scores big in the countries arround it. It's actually just a live cover from Lykke Li's I follow rivers (wich scored already a big hit in the more alternative scene) recorded on the spot for a Dutch radiostation by the Belgian band Triggerfinger. 1 take, live on air, with limited equipment...

And then Axl Rose need 13 years hi end studiotime to make a bad record.
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This is n°1 in all charts in belgium, and scores big in the countries arround it. It's actually just a live cover from Lykke Li's I follow rivers (wich scored already a big hit in the more alternative scene) recorded on the spot for a Dutch radiostation by the Belgian band Triggerfinger. 1 take, live on air, with limited equipment...

And then Axl Rose need 13 years hi end studiotime to make a bad record.
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Didn't the beatles say "All you need is marketing"?
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Pretty simple for Gordon Sumner.

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The only thing that would have made it better would be if they pulled a couple of s'mores out of the fireplace that they were making while they were recording.

I hate to say it, but I really like the Triggerfinger cover better than the original:
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It's less about the talent and more about the product.
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It's less about the talent and more about the product.
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It's less about the more
and talent about the product.

Or, to put it a different way,
it's more about the less,
and product about talent the.


Everyone has some idea about what is and what isn't,
but out of the 168,000 plus international members here,
very few have actual success.

And out of those who have actual success,
very few can duplicate it.

And out of those who can duplicate it,
very few can pay even the most BASIC bills and debts this way.
(Let alone living in any kind of luxury, paying off student loans, or even having decent health care).

Because success in any business has a LOT to do with a million things,
including persistence, constant networking, who you know, luck, timing, etc.

Everyone's got some formula they espouse here.

The busy and successful ones just do the frikkin' work.

That said, there are, of course, some people who are particularly good at crafting hooky, accessible product.

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By the time something gets into a major media outlet be it TV or radio or whatever, it goes through a lot of gate keepers. The issue of talent may or may not have a lot to do with the exposure. As you point out other facters are involved. The one constant is the fact that a song is a product that is being marketed and sold. The entire package, image, placment and monitization is a calculated move. An interesting presentation that speakes to the intended audience is what it's all about.
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By the time something gets into a major media outlet be it TV or radio or whatever, it goes through a lot of gate keepers. The issue of talent may or may not have a lot to do with the exposure. As you point out other facters are involved. The one constant is the fact that a song is a product that is being marketed and sold. The entire package, image, placment and monitization is a calculated move. An interesting presentation that speakes to the intended audience is what it's all about.
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Yes, and just to point out, many of those "calculated" moves also fail.

Even many with HUGE dollars, manpower and other resources behind them.

This is where the luck, timing, chemistry, voodoo, zeitgeist, etc. all come in.

If I had a dollar for every band, or entertainment industry (etc.) product that failed at the gates of potential success,
I'd be very wealthy.

You get all your ducks in a row, and the label pulls your budget.

You get all your ducks in a row, and your manager gets hit by a falling piano.

You get all your ducks in a row, and your radio promoter takes a job somewhere else.

You get all your ducks in a row, and 911 hits.

Etc., ad nauseum.

There are MANY obstacles (and as you say, gatekeepers) between an initial idea
and the potential successful popular consumption of a finished product.

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I'll leave my point with the assumption that what we were discussing is a hit. The hit or product is in the market place and earning a return on the investment. That being said, the level of talent involved in the intial idea of the hit has less to do with the actual success. Its those negative factors that you cite that are far more important to the overall success of the product. As you point out if there not available then their absence becomes your obstacels.
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