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#1 | | Gear Ninja
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Thread Starter | Dave Grohl on the Grammys just said...
The Foo Fighters latest album was recorded in his garage with a tape machine and a few microphones... I hate to sound cynical, but really...? I'd like to know the WHOLE story to that.
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Muyukiguki  The Foo Fighters latest album was recorded in his garage with a tape machine and a few microphones... I hate to sound cynical, but really...? I'd like to know the WHOLE story to that. | There was a VH! documentary, and a huge thread here. They also cut up the 2" safties and put pieces in the packaging.
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#3 | | Gear Head
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His point was more about the quality of the musicians vs the technology. Point well made. Grammy earned.
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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then nicki minaj happened. Ugh
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#5 | | Gear Ninja
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Originally Posted by vocom His point was more about the quality of the musicians vs the technology. Point well made. Grammy earned. | Musicians and the fact the Butch Vig worked his magic on the album..!
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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They moved some killer gear into that garage. Here's a great article, and if you zoom in on the pics, you'll see this was no low ender's garage... FOO FIGHTERS: Recording Wasting Light
So I'm not sure this makes any point in the argument concerning skill vs technology (except maybe, here's a thought kiddies, you need both!); Dave was no doubt gloating over the fact that he and his band can actually play their songs.
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Originally Posted by u b k .....Along with a link to one or three of their own mixes that demonstrate what the poster is claiming. Otherwise, they're just blowin' smoke out their @ss and asking me to breathe deep. | | |
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by vocom His point was more about the quality of the musicians vs the technology. Point well made. Grammy earned. | +1000!
Some people will never get it will they.....
The nice thing about watching him make that acceptance and all the bullhype on that show was some real truth and honesty about music.
Maybe music still has a chance....
Well done Mr Grohl!
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#8 | | Gear Guru
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I was not impressed with there music, good musicians ? yes.... A great song or 2, not really, most rock bands in the past are way better, or lets say write better songs.
Overrated for sure.
Paul, Diana Krall and Joe Walsh was more entertaining and there song was a little lame.
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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I didn't see it... But. Methinks that "attitude" Dave Grohl likes to showcase is in careful consideration of all the marketable demographic and psychological information companies have raped from social web networks offered up by attention seeking people that don't know any better in a lame attempt to corner the "hearts and minds" market.
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#10 | | Moderator
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Check the foo fighters movie for the "garage" studio!!! Heh. But like calling Abbey road a "school gym".
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#11 | | Gear addict
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I think the record sounds amazing. Grammy DEFINITELY earned. Doesn't compete in the loudness war, sounds real, gritty, raw, not overdone, cohesive. 10/10 for me.
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by vocom His point was more about the quality of the musicians vs the technology. Point well made. Grammy earned. | valid
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by dandeurloo then nicki minaj happened. Ugh | x2 :P
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by steveschizoid They moved some killer gear into that garage. Here's a great article, and if you zoom in on the pics, you'll see this was no low ender's garage... FOO FIGHTERS: Recording Wasting Light
So I'm not sure this makes any point in the argument concerning skill vs technology (except maybe, here's a thought kiddies, you need both!); Dave was no doubt gloating over the fact that he and his band can actually play their songs. |
Lol garage is a little bit of a loose term after seeing that. My garage is a garage, thats a fully functioning recording studio. No matter, they're living the dream, respect.
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#15 | | Gear maniac
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"Wasting Light" is the best rock record IMO of 2011. Great songwriting, great performances.
I don´t think he meant they didn´t have any gear to record. By saying "tape machine" he implied no auto-tune, no beat detective...Just effort from the band to get a great take.
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#16 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Muyukiguki The Foo Fighters latest album was recorded in his garage with a tape machine and a few microphones... I hate to sound cynical, but really...? I'd like to know the WHOLE story to that. | Well, I didn`t see the show or hear his comments but I do know this:
DG is a super talented guy who writes some rocking tunes and has the band to rock those songs live. He also has a kick ass studio garage and most importantly has a label throwing lots of $$$ at his projects which to me is really the biggest difference between the "haves" and the "have nots".
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Originally Posted by K. Osborne I think the record sounds amazing. Grammy DEFINITELY earned. Doesn't compete in the loudness war, sounds real, gritty, raw, not overdone, cohesive. 10/10 for me. | What...? This album is completely smashed its one of the loudest rock albums of 2011......?
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#18 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by CeretoneAudio What...? This album is completely smashed its one of the loudest rock albums of 2011......? | You guys are both wrong. Its avg rms is typical for this decade. Certainly on the loud side historically speaking, but not one of the loudest.
It's not trying to win the loudness war, nor is it unilaterally disarming. They did what they felt they had to do.
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Originally Posted by steveschizoid You guys are both wrong. Its avg rms is typical for this decade. Certainly on the loud side historically speaking, but not one of the loudest.
It's not trying to win the loudness war, nor is it unilaterally disarming. They did what they felt they had to do. |
Its as loud as the standard set by the last couple of foo fighters records... Which is loud as fak...... Its smashed
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#20 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by CeretoneAudio
Its as loud as the standard set by the last couple of foo fighters records... Which is loud as fak...... Its smashed | Still sounds good...so who cares...
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#21 | | Lives for gear
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There are a lot of other bands that could/should have been there in the rock field than who they had.The Fray for one.Kings of Leon.There is a long list of talent before the Foo IMO.I get the point they are trying to make though and it is valid.You saw quite a few acts that are all show,dancing to tracks and singing live with them.But there are still a lot of bands out there with the goods live.
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Originally Posted by Slikjmuzik Still sounds good...so who cares... | I think its a great record, dont get me wrong but to say it sounds good is a massive overstatement.. It is a shite sounding record by design
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#23 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by CeretoneAudio I think its a great record, dont get me wrong but to say it sounds good is a massive overstatement.. It is a shite sounding record by design | Um, no.
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#24 | | Lives for gear
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Wait, so you guys don't also have $250k worth of gear in your "garage"?
And you weren't in Nirvana?
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#25 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by CeretoneAudio
Its as loud as the standard set by the last couple of foo fighters records... Which is loud as fak...... Its smashed | What bubble are you living in? Yes it's loud, yes it's smashed...just like everything else these days.
I just opened up a Chili Peppers tune a client wants me to use as a reference. It's roughly a half to a full dB louder than the Foo's record.
And what does this have to do with the topic of this thread?
- It's a rhetorical question, by the way, you don't need to answer.
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#26 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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Originally Posted by steveschizoid What bubble are you living in? Yes it's loud, yes it's smashed...just like everything else these days.
I just opened up a Chili Peppers tune a client wants me to use as a reference. It's roughly a half to a full dB louder than the Foo's record.
And what does this have to do with the topic of this thread?
- It's a rhetorical question, by the way, you don't need to answer. | Wow so there's shite even louder than the foos? Ill have to check it out.
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#27 | | Ion wrangler
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Dave Grohl may be in the biggest rock band in the world, and it's all limos and unicorns now, but he comes from punk rock. He has spent plenty of time in shitty clubs, humping his own gear and driving around in a van, so I think it's perfectly fine if he wants to position himself that way in the context of totally phony show biz land. Just the very thought that a band can play guitars, write their own songs and sing into microphones onto tape is completely radical compared to many of the artists being celebrated last night.
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#28 | | Gear addict
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If Dave Grohl's message doesn't ring true here, in this community, we are really in trouble.
This is not about how loud the album is or how much gear he has...
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#29 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Ernest Buckley Well, I didn`t see the show or hear his comments but I do know this:
DG is a super talented guy who writes some rocking tunes and has the band to rock those songs live. He also has a kick ass studio garage and most importantly has a label throwing lots of $$$ at his projects which to me is really the biggest difference between the "haves" and the "have nots". | Or it could be that he's absolutely loaded from that other band he was in... you may have heard of them.
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#30 | | Lives for gear
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Well, if THAT's a garage, than wth am I calling my living room a studio? 
If they would sell all that gear, it would give a whole new meaning to "garage sell" 
This is a freakin' high end studio by my standards, that just happen to be installed in "garage"... well, obviously they were not going for big room drum sound... but the rest doesn't require much different ambient IMO... they also treated the space where they recorded the vocals and guitars... so what's the big deal? They just installed a high end studio at his place. A lot of bands did that before.
I see no statement about "talent vs gear" in this situation. There was all the sweetest gear any rocker could ever want there...
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