Dave Grohl on the Grammys just said...

[Cheebs Goat]

Originally Posted by Slikjmuzik

Gotta be some kind of high brow stance on your part. Clearly, the rest of the Grammy association voting doesn't agree with you...

When you can't give the Grammy to "nothing", then you have to vote for "something". Apparently "destroyed" can win a Grammy over an ocean of "destroyedest".

I'm not saying it's unbearable sending me leaping for the off button. I'm saying the damaged sound prevents me from getting through the whole album in one go.

[The Listener]

robertshaw;7559950


never heard of My Morning Jacket

What? Where do you live? I live in a friggin' ex-eastern Europe and I heard of them.

My Morning Jacket - Holdin on To Black Metal - YouTube

My Morning Jacket - Circuital - YouTube

My Morning Jacket - The Day Is Coming - YouTube

That's some very creative indie pop production for my taste.

Go hear about it!!

(I hope you won't throw up on one of my favorite recent bands )

[Slikjmuzik]

Originally Posted by Cheebs Goat

When you can't give the Grammy to "nothing", then you have to vote for "something". Apparently "destroyed" can win a Grammy over an ocean of "destroyedest".

I'm not saying it's unbearable sending me leaping for the off button. I'm saying the damaged sound prevents me from getting through the whole album in one go.

Point taken, except Muse is still out there and so is Radiohead who was nominated last night for something if I remember correctly. I think we both might be missing the point here somewhere...

I listen to the whole album all the way through with no problem. Early Evanescence and quite a bit of Chilli Peppers and Fall Out Boy is much worse to my ears and I listen to the record because I like the songs, not because someone is competing out there...

[UncleBubba]

...wait a minute...Robert Shaw is Allen Collins? wicked....I missed you Allen...I should have known...you love the 2192...surprised yu haven;t mentioned anything Chandler these days

[robertshaw]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

you are just being an annoying pain in the ass.

Rob I read your posts and think the exact same thing.
thank you for saying it. I don't have to write it

but after years of having to read countless posts about Nirvana and Dave Grohl
that in itself becomes annoying. I'm beginning to think GSers actually might
like the foo fighters more than the Beatles and Pink Floyd? seriously
Only James Blunt is second to Dave Grohl now.....

[robertshaw]

Originally Posted by UncleBubba

...wait a minute...Robert Shaw is Allen Collins? wicked....I missed you Allen...I should have known...you love the 2192...surprised yu haven;t mentioned anything Chandler these days

uh oh the truth is out!

I wish I was that guy he made lots of enemies I hear
I want that attention!

from what I hear he didn't like fenders
too bad my main axe is a 70s tele
and I use an LTD1 as my main pre these days

[True North]

Originally Posted by UncleBubba

yikes!...someone's buying the swamp...

You disagree with the message or you just don't like who delivered it? It's easy to make a cocky response when you have nothing to add or say.

Originally Posted by UncleBubba

listen up...that album contains Beat Detective, sample replace and Vocal tuning..so please already

Listen up?? Listen Up?? Who the fok are you to tell me to listen up

So first of all, lets get started with a hearty 'go fok yourself'

Second of all, if I have the option of believing Butch Vig who has gone on record to say there were no computer edits done in the making of that record -VS- Taking some pompous anonymous post from a nobody, then guess where I am going to take my info from?

Originally Posted by UncleBubba

The spirit of doing it in a fun environment is...well...fun...but when it got right down to it...they employed all the same computer tools that every new record does...mastering? don;t even get me started on how loudenized that record is...

The spirit of what he is saying is a nice sentiment and obviously is getting them some good press

Still talking out ur ass from beginning to end without a shred of evidence or proof. You have nothing to back up what your saying but trying to pass off the misinformation as god given truth. Some people would call that slander. You have a big mouth, no credibility and a keyboard.....it's the makings of internet forum Nirvana (pun intended).

Here is a tip, if you are trying to make anonymous assertions on this forum, at least have something to back it up instead of trying to act like an internet tough guy....got it Bub?

[robertshaw]

Originally Posted by The Listener

What? Where do you live? I live in a friggin' ex-eastern Europe and I heard of them.

My Morning Jacket - Holdin on To Black Metal - YouTube

My Morning Jacket - Circuital - YouTube

My Morning Jacket - The Day Is Coming - YouTube

That's some very creative indie pop production for my taste.

Go hear about it!!

(I hope you won't throw up on one of my favorite recent bands )

not bad, better than foo fighters

[PhilDW]

Without taking anything away from Dave Grohl, doesn't it seem sometimes like there is an officially "blessed" rock band in the Grammy entertainment world? At one time it was U2 and Springsteen all the darn time, with the occasional interloper like RHCP.

[robertshaw]

Originally Posted by PhilDW

Without taking anything away from Dave Grohl, doesn't it seem sometimes like there is an officially "blessed" rock band in the Grammy entertainment world? At one time it was U2 and Springsteen all the darn time, with the occasional interloper like RHCP.

same with MTV music awards, for the last 15 years

and the winner is........

FOO FIGHTERS!!!!

and to think there are actually other bands putting out music, and good music. Although looking at the grand scale, better hearing Dave yelling into a mic than having to suffer through a song with kobain banging out, out of tune power and yelling into a mic sounding like a hyena in pain.

so maybe some things are meant to be

[True North]

Originally Posted by sscannon

3 Chord tunes, no one in the band capable of playing a guitar solo. Grammy. Hmmmm. I guess the competition is pretty weak. Pretty soon they will be giving out Grammys for best light show, best lip syncing while dancing, and best vocal FX. While I respect Dave Grohl and appreciate the effort, I'm thinking it can only get better. A few microphones and a tape deck. Funny!!!

Some of the greatest songs written have three chords in the them, what your point? I have never listened to a band and tried to count how many chords are in each song so I have no idea if what you are saying is even true. Besides, it's rock n roll, not super Jazz Odyssey. I am pretty sure they know more than three chords but don't need to show everyone in every song, every chord that they can play.

And since when did Chris Shifflet lose the ability to play a guitar solo???!!! Maybe you know something I don't. Just because they don't play guitar solos in the Foo Fighters has nothing to do with their ability to play them, it's just not the aesthetic they are going for.

Whether or not they deserved a grammy I don't really care about. It's all opinion, most of my favourite bands have never even been nominated for a Grammy let alone win one. I have never measured a band by how many Grammy's they won. Glad you at least gave Grohl his dues, I think the guys is a pretty talented.

Don't know much about the rest of the band except Taylor Hawkins who is a smokin drummer. As a drummer yourself I am surprised you didn't mention that. Have you ever seen him play?

[robertshaw]

Originally Posted by True North

Some of the greatest songs written have three chords in the them, what your point?

I think his point is those 3 chords are played properly and there is an actual melody on top of them. Second they are chords not comprised of 2 string power chords. Lastly the melody played on top of the three chords is sung by....well.... an actual vocalist. Someone who really sings, not yells. Someone musical

[ianbryn11]

I just watched the YouTube vid of his speech. Can't believe there is anyone involved on the music biz who thinks anything bad about what he said. He is right on. Kids need to find a garage and practice and write good songs. Even if u don't like his music, his message was a good one.

[Faderjockey]

Just a hater with to much GS time on your hands..
Based on 6,000 post and joined only 2006..

You need to be either writing some of these classics you're talking about or at least working on some ones that you think is better instead of trying to make the rest of us jump on your band wagon of hate for Dave..

[toneguru]

****** Alert!

Is GS giving away another free microphone... this time for the most redundantly lame posts? Must be a good mic.

Geesh guys, lighten up... its only rock n roll.

[PdotDdot]

I think the Foo Fighters should rename themselves to the Fooey Fighters. Or perhaps Chop Fooey. I have now seen them a few times - on late night shows and the Grammy's and from I what I have seen and heard, my High School band was better and far more creative. Maybe these guys are great musicians behind closed doors but hearing all the instruments hitting 16th notes really really loud and someone screaming into a microphone is not to my ears music.

I just don't get it?

I saw the first hour then came back for the final 30 minutes. Outside of Sir Paul and Taylor Swift who is not a favorite of mine, I heard nothing interesting. It was all boring and surrounded by special effects like lots of lights and dancing. I guess music has gotten so lame that it has to be delivered with some sort of "action" movie to pull the listeners attention away from the fact there simply is no talent in the songs or the artists. Why any of those artists even got contracts is beyond me much less a nomination or a trophy.

I'm glad I have my old record collection.

[RKrizman]

What's up with Dave Grohl everywhere? Foo Fighters? Really?

Not hating, just puzzled.

-R

[Nu-tra]

Not to hijack but what are the overhead mics in the pic?

[drBill]

I'm not particularly a Foo Fighters fan - or hater for that matter - and we all know his "garage" is better equipped than the majority of real studio's....

BUT -

I did like the fact that he encouraged kids to practice and learn their craft to the best of their ability. Gotta give him credit for that. It's what needs to be said. More practice, less editing. That in itself will make the musical world a better place.

And at least they PLAYED, not a bunch of crap like the Niki Minaj segment..... More power to anyone out there who at least makes an effort to generate real music as opposed to lack luster crap posing as "entertainment" ala Minaj.

[krheatman]

Originally Posted by RKrizman

What's up with Dave Grohl everywhere? Foo Fighters? Really?

Not hating, just puzzled.

-R

Are all their songs psycho babble?Coldplay too?

[BradD]

I'm curious about some of the mics on the kit in the SOS article that was attached earlier in the thread. What is the stereo mic directly over the kit. Is the overhead that is angled down toward the kit a Manley? What about the hat and ride mics? The tom mics look like E22s. Any thoughts? Thanks.

[sonic dogg]

Originally Posted by RKrizman

What's up with Dave Grohl everywhere? Foo Fighters? Really?

Not hating, just puzzled.

-R

Maybe he's trying to set an example for the younger generation coming up. Learn to play. Do it often with a lot of different people. Dont be afraid of your favorite influences. Market Market Market. Dont apologize for your success.

[Trev@Circle]

Just listened to his speech on youtube. To my ears he said 'keep it real, it's all about musicianship and hard work'. Whether you like them or not I can't see what there is to argue about what the man said.

[NEWTON IN ORBIT]

Originally Posted by drBill

I'm not particularly a Foo Fighters fan - or hater for that matter - and we all know his "garage" is better equipped than the majority of real studio's....

BUT -

I did like the fact that he encouraged kids to practice and learn their craft to the best of their ability. Gotta give him credit for that. It's what needs to be said. More practice, less editing. That in itself will make the musical world a better place.

And at least they PLAYED, not a bunch of crap like the Niki Minaj segment..... More power to anyone out there who at least makes an effort to generate real music as opposed to lack luster crap posing as "entertainment" ala Minaj.

Nice post...agree 100%.

I wasn't a Nirvana fan, and at first wasn't a Foo fan either. I guess I kinda disliked Nirvana so much, I didn't give the Foo Fighters a chance, and really listen.

That said, now, I think they are some talented mofo's. Very good songwriting sensibility, and they know how to create hooks, and keep up the energy. Is it Led Zep? No, if you wanna hear that, pull out the old records.

As far as the recording sounding nasty and all the other stuff that has been said on here in this thread, it really makes me wonder what people are hearing, or think they are hearing.

I think it sounds like well produced rock and roll.

I think I detect some massive SOUR GRAPES in this thread myself.

A lotta these comments sound like me at 21, when Nirvana was coming out and the whole grunge thing was happening. It aggravated me that people playing 2 chords sloppily could make it big, and frankly, I was just pissed because it wasn't me making it.

I mean hell, I could play more than 2 chords right? SOUR GRAPES.

Hopefully I have grown some since then.

It ain't about that. Any of that. It's all feel, energy, and power, and even in their 40's or what have you, the Foo Fighters have it. As far as comparing to most of what else is out there in the pure Rock genre right now...please point me to something that sounds more real and has more energy?

I haven't seen it lately at all. At least these guys are pulling it off.
I have major respect for what they are doing.

Like it or not, they obviously have something people like.

Peace,
john

[RFZ DUDE]

Originally Posted by robertshaw

too be honest if this were a different messageboard I could understand the love for dave and his records but this is a pro audio web site where production and sincere songwriting are the rules we live by.

Isnt this "So much gear, so little time!" ?

[jtaylor27]

Originally Posted by drBill

I'm not particularly a Foo Fighters fan - or hater for that matter - and we all know his "garage" is better equipped than the majority of real studio's....

BUT -

I did like the fact that he encouraged kids to practice and learn their craft to the best of their ability. Gotta give him credit for that. It's what needs to be said. More practice, less editing. That in itself will make the musical world a better place.

And at least they PLAYED, not a bunch of crap like the Niki Minaj segment..... More power to anyone out there who at least makes an effort to generate real music as opposed to lack luster crap posing as "entertainment" ala Minaj.

The Nicki Minaj performance was atrociously embarassing. Extremely hard to believe that she is signed to a major label and people approved and/or backed that "performance".

[narcoman]

Originally Posted by robertshaw

through a song with kobain banging out, out of tune power and yelling into a mic sounding like a hyena in pain.

maybe you don't understand rock n roll.....

[Hyder boy]

Originally Posted by robertshaw

I would hardly call it a garage studio have you seen it?
anyway foofighters are pathetically dated now. It's like when Jethro Tull won
a grammy in 1988 or whatever 15 years after they were good

And how many grammy's do you have. They are still very relavant. I am not a fan, but that was a stupid statement.

[robertshaw]

Originally Posted by Hyder boy

And how many grammy's do you have. They are still very relavant. I am not a fan, but that was a stupid statement.

I have the same amount of grammys as Led Zeppelin, Queen, the Doors and.....Jimi Hendrix, thank you very much!

and for the record I am a better songwriter, singer and gtr player than cirk kobain!

The problem is that they are still relevant, it shows a lack of taste from the
music buying public. But then again no one actually buys music anymore so I take that back

relevant or not they are stale. Is this what rock music has become? the foo fighters? that is a joke. I urge every rock music fan to right now go listen to powerage by AC/DC since this foofighter thing is a Rock and Roll damnation. It's a joke and if the foo fighters represent Rock music then Rock and Roll is noise pollution! It is not worth the Vinyl it's pressed on ot he CD it's stamped on Or the mp3..... oh forget it

In the name of Led Zeppelin what is and what should never be

I will say if the foo fighters never existed. It wouldn't matter. They are not even a speck of dust on the pages rock and roll significance.

[xj32]

Relevant is an overused marketing term that makes kids feel cool and superior and NOW!.

Who cares if an artist is relevant. I just want them to be good, and I think the Foo's are very good at what they do.

XJ