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I know this has probably been said before but I'll say it again.
One of my acquaintances wants to borrow my U87 for a week to record vocals but I hardly know the guy and don't really trust semi-strangers with my equipment. I'm starting to get cold feet. What can I do?
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I know this has probably been said before but I'll say it again.
One of my acquaintances wants to borrow my U87 for a week to record vocals but I hardly know the guy and don't really trust semi-strangers with my equipment. I'm starting to get cold feet. What can I do?
Just say NO!
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Book a session that week... or grow a set and tell the dude you're apprehensive. If the guy lives in the same town as you... and has a studio with a fixed address... chances are you have nothing to worry about [at a bail hearing they'd call that "ties to the community"]. If you don't know where he lives, and he doesn't have a studio simply explain that you'd like a deposit for some peace of mind until you get to know him better.

If he's cool - he'll be happy to give you a deposit... if he's an asshole he'll give you shit about giving you a deposit at which point you can either test fate, get to know him better... or tell him to piss off.

Any way you spell it, asking this question on Gearslutz probably isn't going to help much... but double checking the purpose of the bulbous appendage located somewhere in front of your asshole could indeed help. If you've got a set - speak your mind... if they're lacking in presence or purpose... then give him the mic and worry.

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I know this has probably been said before but I'll say it again.
One of my acquaintances wants to borrow my U87 for a week to record vocals but I hardly know the guy and don't really trust semi-strangers with my equipment. I'm starting to get cold feet. What can I do?
Never lend anything you can't afford to lose. Ever. I almost got taken for a microphone as well.

That said, we need to become acquaintances, my guitar player who I have been recording and playing with for years and is a very good friend won't lend me a frickin guitar pick outside of his home studio. (and I've asked to use his U87 before too) Luckily his space is decent and let's me use his plethora of gear in studio whenever I want...
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Tell your friend he can use your U87 any time he wants to - in your studio, paying your hourly rate. If he's a cheapskate, suggest he try out the latest MXL V67gs, which does a pretty good imitation of a U87. If it's too bright, he could have it modded by JJ Audio or John Bonnell.

In general, people who "borrow" gear (as opposed to renting or buying gear) are also the people who pirate music and software. Why give someone like that a break?
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Tell your friend he can use your U87 any time he wants to - in your studio, paying your hourly rate. If he's a cheapskate, suggest he try out the latest MXL V67gs, which does a pretty good imitation of a U87. If it's too bright, he could have it modded by JJ Audio or John Bonnell.

In general, people who "borrow" gear (as opposed to renting or buying gear) are also the people who pirate music and software. Why give someone like that a break?
Thats a bit harsh of a thing to say...

Friends let friends borrow shit... thats the way it is. Being friends with someone doesn't mean you pirate software... or even that your a cheap skate... maybe he's just at a bad time right now, you shouldn't just judge someone you don't know then end it with, "Why give someone like that a break"
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Thats a bit harsh of a thing to say...

Friends let friends borrow shit... thats the way it is. Being friends with someone doesn't mean you pirate software... or even that your a cheap skate... maybe he's just at a bad time right now, you shouldn't just judge someone you don't know then end it with, "Why give someone like that a break"

I'm firmly in the "listen to your inner voice" camp; the OPs inner voice is expressing doubt and concern and I think that he should listen to it.

Don't loan the mic unless you can afford to buy another one.

I worked with someone that called himself a friend once; he managed to convince another friend, working at studio to loan him a pair of U87s and in the course of the first hour that he had them at his house, he knocked one of the mic stands over (with one of said U87s mounted to it). His response? "Don't tell (insert his friend's name here) about this. He'll never loan me anything again."

Suffice it to say, when this chap approached me (a bit later) to loan him some of my far-less expensive gear, I told him, "No"; my inner voice was screaming "NONONONO" to me....and I listened. So he borrowed more gear from the previous fellow...and once again, knocked over the mic stand with a nice ribbon on it this time. And once again, he said nothing to his friend and demanded silence of the witnesses to this "mishap".

Why is it that when people ask a favour of you, they almost expect the answer to be "yes" ten times out of ten?


There is nothing wrong with saying, "No". It's your mic, it's your money.
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Thats a bit harsh of a thing to say...

Friends let friends borrow shit... thats the way it is. Being friends with someone doesn't mean you pirate software... or even that your a cheap skate... maybe he's just at a bad time right now, you shouldn't just judge someone you don't know then end it with, "Why give someone like that a break"
He's not a friend of the OP - eead the post. Personally, I don't blend anything I care about to people I couldn't 100% forgive if anything went wrong.
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I know this has probably been said before but I'll say it again.
One of my acquaintances wants to borrow my U87 for a week to record vocals but I hardly know the guy and don't really trust semi-strangers with my equipment. I'm starting to get cold feet. What can I do?
say no

he is an acquaintance, not a friend
you hardly know the guy
you are getting cold feet

you have no real strong reason for doing it

think about whatever possessed you to say yes in the first place and vow to never again let yourself be social-pressured into doing something against your self interest.
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Give him the damn mic.All property is theft anyway.Its good karma to make others happy.Crap microphone by all accounts.......
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Give him the damn mic.All property is theft anyway.Its good karma to make others happy.Crap microphone by all accounts.......
In case you didn't read my original post, I said it was a U87.
Pretty sure that doesn't define crap.
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In case you didn't read my original post, I said it was a U87.
Pretty sure that doesn't define crap.
Jokes.Obviously dont lend anyone your lovely mic.Crazy question.

1 day i hope to own a mic like this and i will not lend it.It only has to hit the deck and ........you think he will mention that.
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He's not a friend of the OP - eead the post. Personally, I don't blend anything I care about to people I couldn't 100% forgive if anything went wrong.
My statement wasn't in response to the OP, but rather the statement I responded to.

In the situation of the OP I wouldn't loan it to him, but I also don't know the guy, so I couldn't tell you if he was a problem or not, but judging by the fact that he made this thread, he obviously doesn't trust him, thats all that matters.

A three thousand dollar microphone is way more then I would consider loaning out. I wouldn't loan out my car to someone I didn't trust, and a microphone is really easy to drop and break, or smoke a cigarette while your working and not care because it is not your mic.

Only loan things to people that 1. you trust 2. you know would replace it 3. Is willing give you collateral at least 85% of the value of the item.
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My statement wasn't in response to the OP, but rather the statement I responded to.

In the situation of the OP I wouldn't loan it to him, but I also don't know the guy, so I couldn't tell you if he was a problem or not, but judging by the fact that he made this thread, he obviously doesn't trust him, thats all that matters.

A three thousand dollar microphone is way more then I would consider loaning out. I wouldn't loan out my car to someone I didn't trust, and a microphone is really easy to drop and break, or smoke a cigarette while your working and not care because it is not your mic.

Only loan things to people that 1. you trust 2. you know would replace it 3. Is willing give you collateral at least 85% of the value of the item.
Sorry - I thought we were offering the OP advice, not giving our views on a hypothetical situation or general life perspective!
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