25th January 2013
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#661 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by Den | I'd say it's a fake. What do YOU think since you're the one posting it.
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25th January 2013
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#662 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Den |
Nope. I think it's fake. As in, "not real". As in "someone made it up". As in "an hour or two with a video editor and a bit of home-grown CGI".
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25th January 2013
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#663 | | Allons-y
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I think it is a video.. Video is the technology of electronically capturing, recording, processing, storing, transmitting, and reconstructing a sequence of still images representing scenes in motion.
And yes it seems fake something easily done these days.. not so easy in the days of the moon landing as simply the technology for convincing fakes was not there yet, and actually still isn't today as under scrutiny of experts a fake video can still be demonstrated however it can look convincing these days.
Are spy & attack drone planes and hover drones, camera's in the sky a reality or becoming an increased reality... yes they are.
Do I think people are zooming through the galaxy with their activated merkeba's.. I think not, heck our galaxy quest up until this point means nothing in the scale of the universe. are they zooming through their minds with their hyperdimensional physics.. heck yeah for sure.
Is there something about 'sacred geometry'? I think it's cool.. nature and all that, golden ratio's, Fibonnaci sequence, transcendental numbers and constants.. all super interesting.
Check out diatoms discussed earlier Google Image Result for http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/chromista/diatoms/diatomdiverse.jpg
how cool are those..
do I think we have cracked it? nope.
And there still has to be anyone who can prove something paranormal or 'magic' under laboratory or observed conditions.. I still haven't seen any levitating grandmasters despite the stories.. or proven QI/Chi, mechanics and physics yes those exist and a body can go far in them... supernatural? prove it and I'll believe.
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25th January 2013
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#664 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by clubheadjobby | Leaving aside the fact that both articles contain a lot of suppositions and leaps of faith, which of of course never stopped fantasists;
Let us presume than that life here indeed came from somewhere else (and let me state here clearly I do not believe so, all "evidence" is suspect to say the least), where and how did it start originally, than? Was a "primordial soup" or whatever so much better elsewhere?
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25th January 2013
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#665 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by faramita ;
Let us presume than that life here indeed came from somewhere else (and let me state here clearly I do not believe so, all "evidence" is suspect to say the least), where and how did it start originally, than? Was a "primordial soup" or whatever so much better elsewhere? | while the evidence for how life evolved once it got going is pretty solid, all hypotheses for how life got started from non-life are purely guesswork.
primordial soup ponds on the surface, deep volcanic ocean vents, even certain kinds of clays are all suggested as subjects of earthly possibilities. No current evidence makes one a better candidate than the others. It is known that bacteria can survive in space for incredibly long times. Maybe they could have formed in space, inside a warm slushy comet for example. Or on another planet and then hitched a ride.
The suspiciously short interval between when Earth was a largely molten planet and a planet filled with living bacteria is one clue that aims away from the actual point of origin being here.
Mars was already cooled down, and had an atmosphere and liquid water for a really long time before Earth was seemingly "ready". Maybe life got started there and hitched a ride. Not to say the primordial soup was "better" on Mars, just the timing was better.
Maybe a solution to Fermi's Paradox is that a series of really big coincidences are necessary for life to
1-get started
2-survive long enough to develop intelligence.
Maybe not one, but two planets near each other are needed. What if there was something about Mars that made it an ideal place for the "soup" and that same something meant that the planet would soon dry up and lose its atmosphere? It's as good a guess as any of the others at this point, because really truly nobody has a clue.
That Antarctic meteor seems to have been a disappointment in terms of proof of life, but it clearly is from Mars.
I don't think the point of panspermia is really to keep " deferring" the question of life's origin indefinitely. But until someone actually produces "life" in a test tube that mirrors the hypothesized conditions on Early Earth, who can say for sure that's how it went down?
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27th January 2013
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#666 | | Lives for gear
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I haven't looked at the T3RB vid but I'm assuming it's the one with a kind of green sky where the big bubble expands, pops and the ship disappears?
More fake than Kim Kardassian on a reality TV show complimenting a woman on her clothing. More fake than Nicole Kidman's unblemished countenance. Less real than Bill Clinton's interest in a pretty intern's career preferences.
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27th January 2013
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#667 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by joeq while the evidence for how life evolved once it got going is pretty solid, all hypotheses for how life got started from non-life are purely guesswork.
primordial soup ponds on the surface, deep volcanic ocean vents, even certain kinds of clays are all suggested as subjects of earthly possibilities. No current evidence makes one a better candidate than the others. It is known that bacteria can survive in space for incredibly long times. Maybe they could have formed in space, inside a warm slushy comet for example. Or on another planet and then hitched a ride.
The suspiciously short interval between when Earth was a largely molten planet and a planet filled with living bacteria is one clue that aims away from the actual point of origin being here.
Mars was already cooled down, and had an atmosphere and liquid water for a really long time before Earth was seemingly "ready". Maybe life got started there and hitched a ride. Not to say the primordial soup was "better" on Mars, just the timing was better.
Maybe a solution to Fermi's Paradox is that a series of really big coincidences are necessary for life to
1-get started
2-survive long enough to develop intelligence.
Maybe not one, but two planets near each other are needed. What if there was something about Mars that made it an ideal place for the "soup" and that same something meant that the planet would soon dry up and lose its atmosphere? It's as good a guess as any of the others at this point, because really truly nobody has a clue.
That Antarctic meteor seems to have been a disappointment in terms of proof of life, but it clearly is from Mars.
I don't think the point of panspermia is really to keep "deferring" the question of life's origin indefinitely. But until someone actually produces "life" in a test tube that mirrors the hypothesized conditions on Early Earth, who can say for sure that's how it went down? | Good points. However panspermia theories simply defer the the problem and look for some other places where "primordial soup" or whatever the latest theory (or fantasy) is "better". Better that is, in that being a place we know nothing about we can fantasize about without boundaries. At the moment my understanding is that all the "theories" about origins of life are little more than fantasies.
And we do not know a whole lot about early earth either, or about the "suspiciously short period" you mention.
INMHO origin of life in space is just a slightly more fancyfull and awfully less likely idea.
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28th January 2013
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#668 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by faramita INMHO origin of life in space is just a slightly more fancyfull and awfully less likely idea. | agreed
but at least it's open
I just think that unlike many of the fanciful, unlikely ideas that have been presented in this thread, Panspermia is not Precluded by things we Already Know to be not true!
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28th January 2013
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#669 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by drblank I'd say it's a fake. What do YOU think since you're the one posting it. | http://youtu.be/r23XohoKg5c
I posted intereview with matt todd
Listen what he says about it .
Next generation of stealth.
Nuclear power.
In 1 second from 0 to 7mach.
Like a blink of eye! http://youtu.be/EfxfTkkjoI0
I posted Lacerta files also.
Reptoid women saying that greys gave this technology to NWO but the pilots are dieing from radiation.
This is the best example how they treating human life.
Also there is some very important info
About post plasmatic state of the matter.
To make final conclusion: http://youtu.be/79_HwQ-92f8
All errors of today science and
New Unified Field Theory with proofs.
Part 1
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28th January 2013
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#670 | | Gear addict
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In 1 second from 0 to 7mach.
| You'd die.
I would die
Anyone would die
More bollocks
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28th January 2013
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#671 | | Allons-y
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Originally Posted by Den | Ever noticed how humans treat and have treated human life throughout history or how they treat animal and plant life?
Anyway if all this special info is out in the open and conventional physics are wrong i've asked you before is your house powered with this energy are you traveling through hyperdimensional space? why not?
How is Nassim his house powered, does he travel through space? does he still need to pay bills and go to the supermarket for food or is his body powered by the energy of the universe?
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28th January 2013
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#672 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by Bristol_Jonesey You'd die.
I would die
Anyone would die | That is based on the assumption that the object in question is a "ship" with "beings" inside it. It could be a machine.
Besides once you assume interstellar-travelling aliens, you can always "assume" they have Inertial Dampening as well as Anti-Gravity and Warp Drive.
The part of the video that was most fake to me was the cameraman's seeming inability to get a steady clear shot on the "ship" when it was hovering. Ridiculous. It was as if he had Tourette's. After the cheesy CGI, the behavior of the observer was the part that was least believable.
If I ever saw a thing like that in the sky, I would be doing the "camerawork of my life" trying to keep it in frame!! And why would he EVER zoom out? So you can see Paris? |
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29th January 2013
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#673 | | Gear maniac
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hahahahahah thet stelth is carp
i be see this video under 4 difernet names an location as t5r3b
multiplee = fake fakee fajrd
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29th January 2013
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#674 | | Gear maniac
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hay den did u see this time traveling hipster
i think hes a reptile digsuise |
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29th January 2013
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#675 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by clubheadjobby hay den did u see this time traveling hipster
i think hes a reptile digsuise  | Hey, that's my picture from the hipster thread!
Well actually, I think I got it from ATS where there was heated discussion over whether the image was photoshopped, the guy really dressed that way back when the photo was taken, or it really was a time travelling hipster (apparently tailed by some G-Men).
All that time I thought Andrew Basagio was the Time-Lord.
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29th January 2013
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#676 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by joeq That is based on the assumption that the object in question is a "ship" with "beings" inside it. It could be a machine.
Besides once you assume interstellar-travelling aliens, you can always "assume" they have Inertial Dampening as well as Anti-Gravity and Warp Drive.
The part of the video that was most fake to me was the cameraman's seeming inability to get a steady clear shot on the "ship" when it was hovering. Ridiculous. It was as if he had Tourette's. After the cheesy CGI, the behavior of the observer was the part that was least believable.
If I ever saw a thing like that in the sky, I would be doing the "camerawork of my life" trying to keep it in frame!! And why would he EVER zoom out? So you can see Paris?  | Yeah, I forgot about Anit-Grav
We use that all the time round here, it makes short work of getting to the pub, and more importantly, getting home |
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30th January 2013
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#677 | | Lives for gear
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30th January 2013
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#678 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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The idea that tuning to different hz has mind control applications is only relevant in terms of psychoacoustics not for arbitrary timings,
Yes low frequency audio & high freq can be applied but this mind control stuff is pure shite
Resonance is interesting - tesla showed you can bring down buildings with this & there are warfare applications but these are highly applied scientific uses not metaphysic garbage
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30th January 2013
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#679 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by wayne_kerr The idea that tuning to different hz has mind control applications is only relevant in terms of psychoacoustics not for arbitrary timings, | yes, and it is all arbitrary, because the length of a "second" is not based on anything other than our current human culture and the idea of subdividing the second into hundredths is based on the accident of us evolving with 10 fingers.
it is therefore impossible that 444 Hz is any more significant than 440Hz (or any other value), except that the number used to represent it (in our culture) is "prettier" - or is more easily "manipulated" in base 10 arithmetic.
This is Numerology, plain and simple. Crackpot superstitious nonsense. The "significance" of a number is based on schizophrenia - an over-imagining of "patterns" even when those patterns do not exist. Quote: |
Resonance is interesting - tesla showed you can bring down buildings with this
| And of course you need a slightly different frequency for each and every building. Resonant frequencies are based on the physical size and structure of real objects, not on the numbers used to represent them. This is where Den's theories are shown to be utter baloney. Each and every human being has a different sized body, a different sized ear, a different size basilar membrane. No one frequency could possibly "fit all".
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1st February 2013
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#680 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by joeq yes, and it is all arbitrary, because the length of a "second" is not based on anything other than our current human culture and the idea of subdividing the second into hundredths is based on the accident of us evolving with 10 fingers.
it is therefore impossible that 444 Hz is any more significant than 440Hz (or any other value), except that the number used to represent it (in our culture) is "prettier" - or is more easily "manipulated" in base 10 arithmetic.
This is Numerology, plain and simple. Crackpot superstitious nonsense. The "significance" of a number is based on schizophrenia - an over-imagining of "patterns" even when those patterns do not exist.
This is where Den's theories are shown to be utter baloney. | Woow!
I didn't knew that I have my own theories. Thanks anyway!  )))
Probably I can start to teach other people. He  eheee. |
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2nd February 2013
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#681 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by wayne_kerr The idea that tuning to different hz has mind control applications is only relevant in terms of psychoacoustics not for arbitrary timings,
Yes low frequency audio & high freq can be applied but this mind control stuff is pure shite
Resonance is interesting - tesla showed you can bring down buildings with this & there are warfare applications but these are highly applied scientific uses not metaphysic garbage | You probably don't know for Saturn Moon matrix, type in youtube.
There is lot of photos and sounds that coming from Saturn. David Icke presentation.
Or here: http://youtu.be/fZ1gQUhlWdM |
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2nd February 2013
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#682 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by Den You probably don't know for Saturn Moon matrix, type in youtube.
There is lot of photos and sounds that coming from Saturn. | it is important to note that there are NO "sounds" coming to Earth from Saturn.
sound requires a medium and between Saturn and the Earth is nothing but vacuum. Which is to say, nothing.
these "sounds" are actually radio emissions picked up by our spacecraft. To create something for humans to listen to, these signals are shifted into a frequency we can hear.
The recordings are also time-compressed - what you hear over the course of a minute actually took about 20 minutes to unfold. Even if you could hear radio waves, this stuff would be quite boring in the time frame it actually is running at.
In a way, the NASA guys are like 'rap producers' who have 'sampled' Saturn's radio emissions and then manipulated them in the studio to make a song humans might want to hear.
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3rd February 2013
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#683 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by joeq it is important to note that there are NO "sounds" coming to Earth from Saturn.
sound requires a medium and between Saturn and the Earth is nothing but vacuum. Which is to say, nothing.
these "sounds" are actually radio emissions picked up by our spacecraft. To create something for humans to listen to, these signals are shifted into a frequency we can hear.
The recordings are also time-compressed - what you hear over the course of a minute actually took about 20 minutes to unfold. Even if you could hear radio waves, this stuff would be quite boring in the time frame it actually is running at.
In a way, the NASA guys are like 'rap producers' who have 'sampled' Saturn's radio emissions and then manipulated them in the studio to make a song humans might want to hear. | Yes you are completely right.
But ? thought for searching engine typing "sounds from jupiter".
To find them. |
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6th February 2013
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#684 | | Lives for gear
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AN ‘ANONYMOUS’ SOURCE ‘MAY’ HAVE ‘INTERCEPTED’ THE FOLLOWING ‘SUBSPACE TRANSMISSION’
[BEGIN TRANSMISSION]
From: Draculi-Levithon IV-0094736
Commander of the Alpha Draco Regional Contingent
Ephraim [Canada] & Mannassah [USA] sectors
Solar-3 [Terra] Infiltration force
Station-D, Level-VII
To: Rashtikarsh-Draculon IX-0006476
Central Commander
Alpha Draconian Galactic Intelligence Force
664th degree
Terminal #3 – Central Nexus Command
Planet Typhon, Alpha Draconia
The source: http://www.galacticmessages.com/blog...sion%E2%80%99/
Explanation: http://youtu.be/6Zf7scVDQ1g
Hybrid humans: http://youtu.be/zDLmqfAZ2C0 |
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7th February 2013
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#686 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Denmark
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Originally Posted by Den AN ‘ANONYMOUS’ SOURCE ‘MAY’ HAVE ‘INTERCEPTED’ THE FOLLOWING ‘SUBSPACE TRANSMISSION’
[BEGIN TRANSMISSION]
From: Draculi-Levithon IV-0094736
Commander of the Alpha Draco Regional Contingent
Ephraim [Canada] & Mannassah [USA] sectors
Solar-3 [Terra] Infiltration force
Station-D, Level-VII
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What you're witnessing is another case of anti-semitism in disguise.
Here you get 'alien commanders' with hebraic names = Ephraim and Mannassah
This is to fill weak minds with stories that equal Jews with the diabolic. Just like David Icke's crap.
Icke and his ilk trade in hate and fear.
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7th February 2013
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#687 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by cuckoo.old | Thanks, looks interesting, will check it out!
Which reminds me, you might want to check out John Greenwald's website, he created the largest repository of UFO related FOIA material in the mid 90s.
Greenwald's UFO files: http://www.theblackvault.com/m/artic.../UFO+Phenomena |
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8th February 2013
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#688 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by joeq yes, and it is all arbitrary, because the length of a "second" is not based on anything other than our current human culture and the idea of subdividing the second into hundredths is based on the accident of us evolving with 10 fingers.
it is therefore impossible that 444 Hz is any more significant than 440Hz (or any other value), except that the number used to represent it (in our culture) is "prettier" - or is more easily "manipulated" in base 10 arithmetic.
This is Numerology, plain and simple. Crackpot superstitious nonsense. The "significance" of a number is based on schizophrenia - an over-imagining of "patterns" even when those patterns do not exist. | Well said. I can't believe the idiocy around here. My first thought was: "no-one can tune to exactly 444Hz". It'll always be off. Even if you manage to tune a string to that precise frequency, one millisecond later, it will be at 443.99Hz or something. There goes divisibility...
Does mind control work with an equal tempered tuning? Because the differences between tunings can be larger than the 1ct difference between 440 and 444.
And: on a violin, you have to tune four strings, perfectly. If you tune the A string to 444, to what do you tune the D and the G string? To 296Hz and 197.33333? How is that going to help avoid mind control? And the violinist of course has to put his finger at exactly the right spot in order to impose mind control on the masses.
And in reality, most orchestras do not tune to 440Hz. Even the Berliner, which must be at the center of this **** conspiracy, tune at 443. Or perhaps the ****s were not involved this time?
And finally, how many people listen to orchestras anyway? If I was trying mind control, I'd think of an easier way.
PS Those asterisks were not swearwords, yet the generally accepted name for party members of the German National Socialist party. This forum must have seen some abuse of that word...
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8th February 2013
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#689 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by TGV And finally, how many people listen to orchestras anyway? If I was trying mind control, I'd think of an easier way. | well you could tune any kind of music to 444. In fact there are YouTubes where people take music videos and use a plug in to pitch it up 4 Hertz and "now listen to how much better it sounds"
As for mind control, what could be easier than starting wars by simply tuning to A=440? Starting a war can normally be difficult, you have to have huge armies, heavy taxes, a large population ready to send their kids off to be killed, and people ready to endure shortages and have their cities bombed.
Yet all you have to do is hand out the 440 tuning forks and they will go along with it!
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11th February 2013
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#690 | | Gear maniac
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dqavdf icke is antisemitic turdhole
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