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| Gear maniac | Food for thought
Not exactly my personal take on the subject, but ...... god I love good Bush bashing Notes for Converts - Jane Smiley The Huffington Post: 03.21.2006 Bruce Bartlett, The Cato Institute, Andrew Sullivan, George Packer, William F. Buckley, Sandra Day O'Connor, Republican voters in Indiana and all the rest of you newly-minted dissenters from Bush's faith-based reality seem, right now, to be glorying in your outrage, which is always a pleasure and feels, at the time, as if it is having an effect, but those of us who have been anti-Bush from day 1 (defined as the day after the stolen 2000 election) have a few pointers for you that should make your transition more realistic. 1. Bush doesn't know you disagree with him. Nothing about you makes you of interest to George W. Bush once you no longer agree with and support him. No degree of relationship (father, mother, etc.), no longstanding friendly intercourse (Jack Abramoff), no degree of expertise (Brent Scowcroft), no essential importance (Tony Blair, American voters) makes any difference. There is nothing you have to offer that makes Bush want to know you once you have come to disagree with him. Your opinions and feelings now exist in a world entirely external to the mind of George W. Bush. You are now just one of those "polls" that he pays no attention to. When you were on his side, you thought that showed "integrity" on his part. It doesn't. It shows an absolute inability to learn from experience. 2. Bush doesn't care whether you disagree with him. As a man who has dispensed with the reality-based world, and is entirely protected by his handlers from feeling the effects of that world, he is indifferent to what you now think is real. Is the Iraq war a failure and a quagmire? Bush doesn't care. Is global warming beginning to affect us right now? So what. Have all of his policies with regard to Iran been misguided and counter-productive? He never thinks about it. You know that Katrina tape in which Bush never asked a question? It doesn't matter how much you know or how passionately you feel or, most importantly, what degree of disintegration you see around you, he's not going to ask you a question. You and your ideas are dead to him. You cannot change his mind. Nine percent of polled Americans would agree with attacking Iran right now. To George Bush, that will be a mandate, if and when he feels like doing it, because... 3. Bush does what he feels like doing and he deeply resents being told, even politely, that he ought to do anything else. This is called a "sense of entitlement". Bush is a man who has never been anywhere and never done anything, and yet he has been flattered and cajoled into being president of the United States through his connections, all of whom thought they could use him for their own purposes. He has a surface charm that appeals to a certain type of American man, and he has used that charm to claim all sorts of perks, and then to fail at everything he has ever done. He did not complete his flight training, he failed at oil investing, he was a front man and a glad-hander as a baseball owner. As the Governor of Texas, he originated one educational program that turned out to be a debacle; as the President of the US, his policies have constituted one screw-up after another. You have stuck with him through all of this, made excuses for him, bailed him out. From his point of view, he is perfectly entitled by his own experience to a sense of entitlement. Why would he ever feel the need to reciprocate? He's never had to before this. 4. President Bush is your creation. When the US Supreme Court humiliated itself in 2000 by handing the presidency to Bush even though two of the justices (Scalia and Thomas) had open conflicts of interest, you did not object. When the Bush administration adopted an "Anything but Clinton" policy that resulted in ignoring and dismissing all warnings of possible terrorist attacks on US soil, you went along with and made excuses for Bush. When the Bush administration allowed the corrupt Enron corporation to swindle California ratepayers and taxpayers in a last ditch effort to balance their books in 2001, you laughed at the Californians and ignored the links between Enron and the administration. When it was evident that the evidence for the war in Iraq was cooked and that State Department experts on the Middle East were not behind the war and so it was going to be run as an exercise in incompetence, you continued to attack those who were against the war in vicious terms and to defend policies that simply could not work. On intelligent design, global warming, doctoring of scientific results to reflect ideology, corporate tax giveaways, the K Street project, the illegal redistricting of Texas, torture at Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, the Terry Schiavo fiasco, and the cronyism that led to the destruction of New Orleans you have failed to speak out with integrity or honesty, preferring power to truth at every turn. Bush does what he wants because you have let him. 5. Tyranny is your creation. What we have today is the natural and inevitable outcome of ideas and policies you have promoted for the last generation. I once knew a guy who was still a Marxist in 1980. Whenever I asked him why Communism had failed in Russia and China, he said "Mistakes were made". He could not believe that Marxism itself was at fault, just as you cannot believe that the ideology of the unregulated free market has created the world we live in today. You are tempted to say: "Mistakes have been made", but in fact, psychologically and sociologically, no mistakes have been made. The unregulated free market has operated to produce a government in its own image. In an unregulated free market, for example, cheating is merely another sort of advantage that, supposedly, market forces might eventually "shake out" of the system. Of course, anyone with common sense understands that cheaters do damage that sometimes cannot be repaired before they are "shaken out", but according to the principles of the unregulated free market, the victims of that sort of damage are just out of luck and the damage that happens to them is just a sort of "culling". It is no accident that our government is full of cheaters--they learned how to profit from cheating when they were working in corporations that were using bribes, perks, and secret connections to cheat their customers of good products, their neighbors of healthy environmental conditions, their workers of workplace safety and decent paychecks. It was only when the corporations began cheating their shareholders that any of you squealed, but you should know from your own experience that the unregulated free market as a "level playing field" was the biggest laugh of the 20th century. No successful company in the history of capitalism has ever favored open competition. When you folks pretended, in the eighties, that you weren't using the ideology of the free market to cover your own manipulations of the playing field to your own advantage, you may have suckered yourselves, and even lots of American workers, but observers of capitalism since Adam Smith could have told you it wasn't going to work. And then there was the way you used racism and religious intolerance to gain and hold onto power. Nixon was cynical about it--taking the party of Lincoln and reaching out to disaffected southern racists, drumming up a backlash against the Civil Rights movement for the sake of votes, but none of you has been any less vicious. Racism might have died an unlamented death in this country, but you kept it alive with phrases like "welfare queen" and your resistance to affirmative action and taxation for programs to help people in our country with nothing, or very little. You opted not to take the moral high ground and recognize that the whole nation would be better off without racism, but rather to increase class divisions and racial divisions for the sake of your own comfort, pleasure, and profit. You have used religion in exactly the same way. Instead of strongly defending the constitutional separation of church and state, you have encouraged radical fundamentalist sects to believe that they can take power in the US and mold our secular government to their own image, and get rich doing it. The US could have become a moderating force in what seems now to be an inevitable battle among the three monotheistic Abrahamic religions, but you have made that impossible by flattering and empowering our own violent and intolerant Christian right. You have created an imperium, heedless of the most basic wisdom of the Founding Fathers--that at the very least, no man is competent enough or far-seeing enough to rule imperially. Checks and balances were instituted by Madison, Jefferson, Franklin, and the rest of them not because of some abstract distrust of power, but because they had witnessed the screw-ups and idiocies of unchecked power. You yourselves have demonstrated the failures of unchecked power--in an effort to achieve it, you have repeatedly contravened the expressed wishes of most Americans, who favor a moderate foreign policy, reasonable domestic programs, a goverrnment that works, environmental preservation, women's rights to contraception, abortion, and a level playing field. Somehow you thought you could mold the imperium to reflect your wishes, but guess what--that's what an imperium is--one man rule. If you fear the madness of King George, you have no recourse if you've given up the checks and balances that you inherited and that were meant to protect you. Your ideas and your policies have promoted selfishness, greed, short-term solutions, bullying, and pain for others. You have looked in the faces of children and denied the existence of a "common good". You have disdained and denied the idea of "altruism". At one time, our bureaucracy was full of people who had gone into government service or scientific research for altruistic reasons--I knew, because I knew some of them. You have driven them out and replaced them with vindictive ignoramuses. You have lied over and over about your motives, for example, making laws that hurt people and calling it "originalist interpretations of the Constitution" (conveniently ignoring the Ninth Amendment). You have increased the powers of corporations at the expense of every other sector in the nation and actively defied any sort of regulation that would require these corporations to treat our world with care and respect. You have made economic growth your deity, and in doing so, you have accelerated the power of the corporations to destroy the atmosphere, the oceans, the ice caps, the rainforests, and the climate. You have produced CEOs in charge of lots of resources and lots of people who have no more sense of reciprocity or connection or responsibility than George W. Bush. Now you are fleeing him, but it's only because he's got the earmarks of a loser. Your problem is that you don't know why he's losing. You think he's made mistakes. But no. He's losing because the ideas that you taught him and demonstrated for him are bad ideas, self-destructive ideas, and even suicidal ideas. And they are immoral ideas. You should be ashamed of yourselves because not only have your ideas not worked to make the world a better place, they were inhumane and cruel to begin with, and they have served to cultivate and excuse the inhumane and cruel character traits of those who profess them. 6. As Bad as Bush is, Cheney is Worse. http ://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/notes-for-converts_b_17662.html?view=print |
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| Gear Head Joined: Mar 2006 Location: krypton
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dfegad Hello my name is RETROGRADE! Here are somethings you should know about me! #1. I've never failed at anything, I'm PERFECT! #2. Since I am perfect I may copy & paste boring political rants! and post it here on gearslutz and you cannot tell me other wise because I'm perfect! #3. Since I have all the solutions to are current state of affairs i will run for president of the united states and I will win because I have the perfect solution for every problem in the world because God taught me everything he knows! #4. Oh Yeah I'm PERFECTdfegad Retrodfegad |
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| Gear maniac | Typical response from a Bushhead Quote:
Mixerlmike I notice you didn't choose to respond to the criticism of the President and his administration. Just a personal attack of me. Brilliant. I freely admit that I'm not qualifed to serve as Chief Executive of our country. Its a shame that Bush couldn;t be as honest. | |
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| Gear Head Joined: Mar 2006 Location: krypton
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| Honesty
I would love to know one politcian who is totally honest! Please don't take my response or (attack) harshly, I just don't Think we comprehend the pressure or the magnitude of being president, and the choices that have to be made! MixerlMike |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2003 Location: Western North Carolina
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Holy steamin' horseshit! Only 3 posts and this clown has already made my ignore list! A new record ladies and gentlemen! BTW- There is a 'gear free zone' forum at the bottom of the page where politics are discussed (*you have to be signed in to see it)....But I'm sure this will be moved there when a moderator sees it.
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| Gear maniac | Politics
Jules: My bad. I forgot about the gear free zone. Geoff |
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| Gear maniac Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Sydney Australia
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I would hazard a guess that you even voted for him, "I just don't Think we comprehend the pressure or the magnitude of being president" Where do you get your political Ideologies from "Britney Spiers"dfegad
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| Gear Head Joined: Mar 2006 Location: krypton
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Where do you get your political Ideologies from "Britney Spiers" "SPEARS" "That is one of the most mornic statements I have ever heard" MORONIC Rick....rick...ricky, Dude learn how to spell before you post or at least take the time to read what you just typed before you criticize what i typed! And if you heard what I wrote then you have better ears then anyone on the planet! I won't even entertain your other points which mean nothing to me!dfegad |
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| Gear Head Joined: Mar 2006 Location: krypton
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de Chromium cob, Who cares man! Did I know you before you black listed me? NO so why even post man! Seems like you get a kick out of ignoring people, you must be a lonely lonely man! Peace! |
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| Gear Head Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Nashville, Tennessee
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Hey Mixerlmike, I wish I could have warned you that there are a lot of very obnoxious liberals that hate President Bush with a passion on this forum. My WARNING: Be careful, they will gang up on you and attack with extreme prejudice and wont give it a second thought if you show any affinity for our President. Oh some of them don’t like being called Liberal. That makes them even more vicious. If you don’t believe me…check out some posts and replies by Davejes1979, and Soultrane. It was horrible what they did to them. You only received a minuscule sample of what Davejes1979, Soultrane, and others received. You’ve been warned.
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| Gear Head Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Nashville, Tennessee
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One word of advice...Never get into an argument with an idiot, because to the spectators sometimes it is hard to tell the differance between you and the idiot. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2005 Location: brighton UK
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That's not true there's no difference between you and an idiot. A spectator. |
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| Gear Head Joined: Mar 2006 Location: krypton
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leeja32207 baikonour, Grow up! How old are you like 15? Didn't your momma tell you to stay out of grown folks business! |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2005 Location: brighton UK
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| one man, ONE mic pre Joined: Jan 2004 Location: New York
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The only thing I can't figure out is why that WOULDN'T be your personal take on it. sounds right on to me.
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| Gear maniac | My take
The factual stuff I can get behind. I wouldn't be so bold as the writer to state for the record how the Prez thinks cuz I'm not sure that he does much. Geoff |
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| Gear Head Joined: Mar 2006 Location: krypton
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Posted by baikonour; I'm 12 actually, which is old enough to consider your comments are ********. How is it ********? or is it that the truth hurts! |
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