22nd February 2006
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#1 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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Thread Starter  | My Top 10 Worst Guitarist list
If technique mattered some of these names would not be here. Since this list is based soley on originality I'm forced to include names of some really polished players.
1. Steve Ray - did this guy dedicate his life to milking Jimi?
2. Kurt Cobain - Courtney should have lent him her tuner before it was too late
3. Mike Mcready. Yet another chump who made more money than Jimi doing what Jimi did.
4. Vito Bratta. Poor Eddie what a bad tribute to him.
5. Mark Tremonti. Thinks he invented drop d tuning
6. removed due to death threat Ry Cooder
7. Wes Borland
8. Jack White (yet another guy who can't tune up)
9. Vernon Reid. (This guy is the worst hendrix imititation I've heard to date)
10. Michael Angelo ( does this guy have a bionic arm ?)
now for my top 15 favorite
in no order
1. Jimi
2. Eddie
3. Jeff beck
4. Ed King
5. Jamez Hetfield
6. Iommi
7. Tom Morello
8. Allen Collins (the guy in LS)
9. Hughie Thomason
10. Steve Morse
11. Al Dimiola
12. Jimmy Page
13. Duane Allaman
14. Martin Barre
15. Paul Kossoff
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22nd February 2006
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#2 | | Gear addict
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I see lots of fender amps on your favourite list there, allen  | |
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#3 | | Gear Head
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Top 10/Worst 10 lists are purely subjective and have no merit to anyone but the person who creates them.
Blasting guitarists because you don't understand their "artistic creativity" (or lack thereof) is pointless.
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22nd February 2006
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#4 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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Originally Posted by lydog Top 10/Worst 10 lists are purely subjective and have no merit to anyone but the person who creates them.
Blasting guitarists because you don't understand their "artistic creativity" (or lack thereof) is pointless. |
Well put. This list was not to bash anyone just for conversation more or less.
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22nd February 2006
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#5 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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Originally Posted by borau I see lots of fender amps on your list there, allen |
You are correct.
I do love the fender clean sound very much. It is glassy and sweet . Especially with a tube rectifier. I guess my original negative comments toward fenders were due to their 'Versatility'. Although fender has come very far in making their amps more versatile, I just think their are some better products available that's all.
Also some people on this board were trying to convince me that hendrix played fender amps. He may have, but every picture Ive ever seen him in there were a wall of Marshalls behind him. I guess I just got confused.
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22nd February 2006
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#6 | | Banned
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Your whole list is made irrelevent by your first entry.
Obviously, you don't know much about guitar because if you only see the Jimi Hendrix influence in Stevie Ray then you are pretty green.
Pal... everyone is influenced by someone.
There are very few original players.
Do more homework before you talk.
Danny Brown
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22nd February 2006
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#7 | | Captain
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Just goes to show how different we all hear things.. dissing Ry Cooder as "sloppy" is very funny to me. especially when talking about originality because that is exactly what he is . Go listen to the sound track to "Paris Texas" or any other amazing work from him and then come back and post your comments ......You obviously don't know his work ar all. As for the others you don't respect. each to his own.
Still a pointless discussion.
Peace shipshape
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22nd February 2006
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by shipshape Just goes to show how different we all hear things.. dissing Ry Cooder as "sloppy" is very funny to me. especially when talking about originality because that is exactly what he is . Go listen to the sound track to "Paris Texas" or any other amazing work from him and then come back and post your comments ......You obviously don't know his work ar all. As for the others you don't respect. each to his own.
Still a pointless discussion.
Peace shipshape | The Caveman speaks the truth.
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by dbbubba Your whole list is made irrelevent by your first entry.
Obviously, you don't know much about guitar because if you only see the Jimi Hendrix influence in Stevie Ray then you are pretty green.
Pal... everyone is influenced by someone.
There are very few original players.
Do more homework before you talk.
Danny Brown |
Agreed,
Dismissing Stevie Ray Vaughn as being just a Hendrix clone is vapid to say the least.
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22nd February 2006
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#10 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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Originally Posted by dbbubba Your whole list is made irrelevent by your first entry.
Obviously, you don't know much about guitar because if you only see the Jimi Hendrix influence in Stevie Ray then you are pretty green.
Pal... everyone is influenced by someone.
There are very few original players.
Do more homework before you talk.
Danny Brown |
Thanks I love homework. Where do they offer a class in cloning the styles of Jimi Hendrix? Should I check my local community College??
Also I'm not your pal. But anytime your in the Northeast I'll challange you to a gtr duel Anyday......................
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22nd February 2006
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by allencollins Thanks I love homework. Where do they offer a class in cloning the styles of Jimi Hendrix? Should I check my local community College??
Also I'm not your pal. But anytime your in the Northeast I'll challange you to a gtr duel Anyday...................... | I thought you were really a bass player
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22nd February 2006
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by allencollins Thanks I love homework. Where do they offer a class in cloning the styles of Jimi Hendrix? Should I check my local community College??
Also I'm not your pal. But anytime your in the Northeast I'll challange you to a gtr duel Anyday...................... |  | |
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22nd February 2006
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by allencollins You are correct.
I do love the fender clean sound very much. It is glassy and sweet . | Wait a sec - I thought that in your mind all Fender products were crap - isn't that what you were saying in your other posts?
BTW, did you notice in those other threads that people *didn't* piss on Les Pauls, Marshalls, or other products? You, on the other hand, made it a point to piss on everything that had "Fender" associated with it. And you got spanked for it. Soundly.
Oh, as for your lists? All highly subjective. One man's meat, etc.
AND - some of your faves have played Telecasters; Steve Morse has one for his main guitar.  | |
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#14 | | Gear Guru
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I saw Vernon Reid a few times with Living Color and had the chance to record him a few times. The man is awesome. Living Color was an incredible band. He goes far beyond being a Hendrix clone. He combines fabulous technique with a deep musicality.
My nominee for most overrated would be Carlos Santana. He was pretty cool when he first came out, but has been milking the same limited repertoire of riffs ever since. Great tone, though.
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22nd February 2006
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by allencollins 6. Ry Cooder The sloppiest slide play in history | BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 
(Actually, Bob Weir is the sloppiest slide player in history)
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22nd February 2006
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#16 | | Gear Guru
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Best top 5 IMO:
1) Johnny Knox
2) Even Johns
3) Bill Davis
4) Sadler Vaden
5) some guy I just saw down at the blues jam, but can not remember his name..
All the guys listed (besides number 5) play out about 3 to 5 days a week all over the country, but I bet know one knows who they are and guess what I bet know one will EVER.. Sad aint it that you have to be famous to be great?
Glenn
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22nd February 2006
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#17 | | Lives for gear
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Sting generally gets some of the best musicians in the world playing with him but for some f'in reason he has been using this guy named Dominic Miller for the past few years.
I don't know why he uses him but I can' stand his playing espcially when back dropped by some of the top musicians on the planet. The guys sound is processed and his playing is about as inspiring as a concrete block.
I just don't get it !!! 
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22nd February 2006
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#18 | | Gear Guru
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I do see this as just another pointless subjective list. But come on guys! SRV WAS a Jimi clone. Of course he had other things going on, but he is one of the foremost Jimi Hendrix impersonators that ever lived. One of the best too.
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22nd February 2006
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#19 | | Lives for gear
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Steve Cropper.....not a blazing player, but played some of the tastiest licks ever!!!
Just follow the dots man!!!!!
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22nd February 2006
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#20 | | Lives for gear
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I hate lists like this. Almost everything posted is going to end up negative and is a sure fire way to piss someone off and step on toes. I like to avoid pissing others off.
Really I love SRV, you don't? No big but I don't think either of us are going to change the others minds now are we?
On the other hand I do agree with many on your "favorites" list, I guess that is positive huh?
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#21 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by henryrobinett I do see this as just another pointless subjective list. But come on guys! SRV WAS a Jimi clone. Of course he had other things going on, but he is one of the foremost Jimi Hendrix impersonators that ever lived. One of the best too. | He was a Jimi and Albert King clone...but he did it well and played his ass off with possibly more intensity than I've ever seen another guitarist.
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#22 | | Lives for gear
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troll?
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#23 | | Lives for gear
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This is the lamest yet. Where's Billy Gibbons? I smell a rat....tutt
Oh yes, and SRV a Jimmie clone? This makes no sense at all.....every guitar player on there was influence by soemone else. How many people do you know that can play Little Wing? Doesn't make them a clone...actually, that's not even in my vocabulary when talking these giutar players.
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#24 | | Lives for gear
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I seriously doubt that either Kurt Cobain or Jack White set out to be known as great guitarists. Both are great songwriters-- the guitar is merely a tool for them. My guess is that they are both on your list because you play guitar better than them, yet, both of them are/were MUCH more successful that you. Am i right?  | |
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22nd February 2006
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#25 | | Gear addict
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I'm still pretty bumbed that Ry Cooder is on the list. I guess I need to throw away my Son House CDs...he was really sloppy, especially in his older years. Man, I really thought that it was good stuff. | |
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#26 | | Banned
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Be carefull who you dis or heap praise upon....
See the pic of the birds from the Pixar animated short that Shipshape uses on his postings?
The music for that short was played by Riders in the Sky. They claimed to have written and actually alllowed Pixar/Disney to copyright the pice. They call it "High Wire Hop."
A LOUD BUZZER GOES OFF......
It is actually a verbatim rip off of a Jimmy Bryant piece called, "Jammin' With Jimmy" and was written, copyrighted and releasd in 1954.
Most people don't know shit about music even when they work with it.
Who knows who Jimmy Bryant is?
Raise your hand if you do.
Go do your homework.
Danny Brown
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22nd February 2006
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#27 | | KMR Audio
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Originally Posted by mhartman I'm still pretty bumbed that Ry Cooder is on the list. I guess I need to throw away my Son House CDs...he was really sloppy, especially in his older years. Man, I really thought that it was good stuff. | Son House... now we're talking. Sloppy as hell, but what great music. I love lists like this, such a pointless waste of life. But as we're here, how about adding Alex Lifeson, Robert Johnson, Joe Perry, Dave Gilmour, Joe Pass, John Renbourne, Julian Bream, Paco De Lucia etc etc to your list? Ry Cooder sloppy? Jeez... get a home earwax kit 
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#28 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by DontLetMeDrown I seriously doubt that either Kurt Cobain or Jack White set out to be known as great guitarists. Both are great songwriters-- the guitar is merely a tool for them. My guess is that they are both on your list because you play guitar better than them, yet, both of them are/were MUCH more successful that you. Am i right? |
Would somebody explain to me the appeal of the White Stripes? I just don't get it. If Jack White is a "great" songwriter then, in my opinion, the greatness bar has gotten pretty low.
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22nd February 2006
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#29 | | Gear addict
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#30 | | Gear maniac
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Dominic Millers playing on The Soul Cages record is brilliant. If you havent reallly listened to it you are missing out.
Jason
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