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Old 8th February 2006   #1
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Unhappy I got dumped....loozer....

So I got back from NAMM (had an amazing and productive week in L.A)…a week after I got back I get dumped….what? She apparently lost interest in me…the thing, I can’t figure out ??

I am at a high point right now doing well….(clients on the radio, playing shows, doing interviews, making videos) cool…and SPLAT……The really messed up part is that she admits I treated her like gold….ouch….the more successful I get the more isolated I become…….what is that??? I included her in everything, I think she rather be with a “normal” guy with a basic job….. Hi, i suck....well I still have my Pro Tools....
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...I treated her like gold
There's your problem right there.
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There's your problem right there.
Could be. Without knowing her history, relationship with father, past boyfriends, etc.

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LOL ... you sound like a bunch of clueless highschool guys when it comes to women.

I'm sorry to hear your loss. And I'm going to tell you something you
don't want to hear: it's 100% your fault.

I'm not trying to be cruel, I really know what it feels to be in that situation ... I just wanted to point out to you that the power to keep a girl attracted to you is somewhere hidden inside you.

Now, if you want some answers as to WHY she dumped you, this email might prove useful. It's an infomercial, but this is not BS ...

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***QUESTION***

Hello, David!

I want to start by thanking you for your work.
Once in a great while, someone comes along that
truly wants to help others succeed, and puts in
the effort to the research and testing, and makes
something great for others. You are one of those
people, and I'm glad to see you succeed by helping
so many others do the same.

I was reaching to find answers, like a lot of
us were, and found your material. It has been
awesome. In the last week, I saw the most
attractive woman I perhaps ever have. She was a
9.5 on my scale, which is truly rare to find for
me. Not just in looks, but a great personality.
Instead of giving in to my normal habits, I
applied the methods you taught. We went out to a
club, and had a great time. I had another friend
of mine there, and I used him as a means to
partially ignore her at times, constantly making
jokes that were just too quiet for her to hear,
and looking at her and smiling when doing it. She
constantly wanted to know what was funny, yet she
wasn't mad, just shyly curious. I was aloof, yet
not terribly too distant from her. I would wander
off by myself, knowing she was with my friend, and
leave them hanging alone for a little while now
and then. (I knew my friend wasn't going to hit on
her). I would go up to other girls and whisper
something in their ear right in front of her, to
give her the idea that I was completely
comfortable in my own skin with women. Once, on my
way back from the dance floor, I found her with
some other guy. I flashed a sly little smile, but
kept on walking right by, as if to imply "You have
a good time there. I could care less. As a matter
of fact, you look a tad pathetic coming on to
him." She soon returned and said that I had been
gone too long, and some guy had "dragged her away
from me". That night, I had resisted the urge to
act like anything but the kind of man you would
teach someone to be. All urges at wussness were
disregarded, and I played the part to a tee. Even
though it didn't entirely feel normal or
comfortable at first, I could see that it was
definitely working, so I kept it up. I would
occasionally catch her staring at me from the
corner of my eye, sometimes for 2 or 3 seconds. I
didn't react, but just kept saying to myself
"Damn. David has been right the whole time".

I woke up the next morning with a weird
feeling... this was something I had never achieved
before. I don't mean sex with a woman soon after I
met her, but the fact that she was so damn
gorgeous. At the risk of sounding a little
chauvinistic, she was the best girl I have ever
had. Well, over the next two weeks or so, I kept
coming over and doing things during the days with
her and staying at night. This is when things
began to change.

You had a timeless question from a guy once who
said something like "After I sleep with a woman
why do I feel like hating her?" Well, I normally
feel the same. But with this girl, it was
different. I wanted to keep her. But, the more
time we spent together, the more we started to
both feel like whatever I sparked was fading
quick. I could see the thrill of our initial
meeting was dying, and I wanted to add to my image
in her mind the idea that I could be a part of her
daily life too, not just the nighttime party one.

I felt like I had to show her something that
proved I didn't just want her for sex. I knew I
couldn't let her interpret it as me buying her
attention or body, although I'm afraid that may
have been exactly what I did. I ended up
purchasing her and her roomate a full stock of
groceries, which they definitely needed. It gave
me some kind of a sense that I had shown that I
was more than just a sex buddy, which really felt
good to me. However, lately she has pulled away.
We will still go out and have a good time, but
more like friends, with only a little flirting.
She now refuses sex, saying "it would complicate
things." By the way, although she has been in
long-term relationships since she was 16, she
currently isn't, and seems to be enjoying the
party life a lot. She is 22 now. I know you said
in your audio series that it is a mistake to try
to tie down a party girl, but she told me of her
long-term history with guys, and that's why I
tried. Did I screw up by getting too close too
fast? Was it unrealistic for me to show that kind
of attention to her needs that quick or at all?
How many times should a guy see a girl each week
if he wants to keep up the attraction and have a
great time, but not become too familiar to her?

Thanks man.

Confused, -J

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Oh, I feel your pain.

I'm sure that just about every man alive can
identify with this story in one way or another...
even if it doesn't involve a woman that you'd
describe as a "9.5".

So, let's talk about the situation you're in,
what happened at first, and what to do now...

First of all, congratulations on the fact that
you were able to make this kind of success happen
in the first place!

You're doing great, and I know how good it
feels to have this kind of success with a really
attractive woman.

It sounds like you're really starting to "get
it" at a deep level. The more you continue to
study the materials you have (especially the CD
Series) the more you'll understand how to attract
these UNUSUALLY attractive women... and more
importantly, KEEP THEM ATTRACTED.

Let's review a few of my main concepts, and how
they apply to this situation...

- ATTRACTION ISN'T A CHOICE

Explained differently, a woman doesn't
CONSCIOUSLY CHOOSE to feel attracted to a man.

A woman also doesn't consciously choose to STOP
her attraction for a man.

It happens for reasons that seem very illogical
to most men.

The things you were doing when you first met
this girl were EXACTLY the right things for
creating this wonderful feeling of ATTRACTION
inside of her.

And she obviously enjoyed it tremendously.

You mentioned that you didn't feel totally
comfortable at first, but since it was obvious
that she was becoming more and more interested in
you, you kept going... which led to you getting
together with her.

But, remember the flip side: If you start doing
the WRONG things, the woman will LOSE her
ATTRACTION for you as well. And it will happen ALL
BY ITSELF. The worst part is that you can't
logically convince her to keep feeling attracted
to you. If you screw it up, you're probably going
to screw it up to a point that is almost
impossible to fix.

- GIVE HER THE GIFT OF MISSING YOU

What do most guys do as soon as they meet a
REALLY HOT, ultra-attractive woman?

Of course! They call three times a day, and
want to see her all the time.

Attractive women know better than to do this.

When an attractive woman meets a man she likes,
she usually PLAYS HARD TO GET. Instead of calling,
she acts like she's BUSY.

This makes the man try even harder, and pursue
her even more...

It sounds like you did exactly the opposite.

In your email here you say:

"Well, over the next two weeks or so, I kept
coming over and doing things during the days with
her and staying at night. This is when things
began to change..."

No no no!

Over the next two weeks you should have called
her every few days, and seen her maybe three times
for a few hours each.

No "doing things during the days with her and
staying at night"!

You really need to remember to GIVE HER THE
GIFT OF MISSING YOU!

If you're around all the time, you become
predictable, expected, and uninteresting.

On the other hand, if you're mysterious,
challenging, and hard to pin down, she will think
about you and miss the times she's had with you.

- DON'T TURN INTO A WUSS

This is one of the biggest mistakes that men
make when they meet a woman that they REALLY like.

I get a lot of emails from guys saying "I met
this girl, and I used everything I've learned from
Double Your Dating to get her... but now that
we've been seeing each other for awhile things are
changing, and I'm starting to lose control of how
I act... and I'm turning into my old Wussy
self..."

As I'm sure you can guess, this is bad bad bad
for attraction.

When you start out by doing things that are
attractive to her, then gradually turn into a WUSS
BAG, you go from her wildest dream to her worst
nightmare right in front of her eyes.

If you figure out how to make a woman feel
ATTRACTION for you, then KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE
DOING!

Don't start being a clingy Wuss. Translation:
Don't spend every day and night with her, don't
buy her groceries, and don't try to get her into a
relationship fifteen minutes after you meet her.

You also mentioned a few little words that
stood out for me: "I kept coming over...".

YOU kept coming over. When you're the one
coming to her, then she's the one in control.
Think about it. This is a small point, and it
isn't always the case, but in this situation it
makes a difference.

So, what should you do now?

You should give her some space. Don't call her
more than once or twice a week, and don't see her
more than once or twice a week for awhile. Don't
pressure her physically, and don't try to push for
a relationship.

DATE OTHER WOMEN! Get out there and go out with
some other women... and when you talk to her don't
hide the fact that you're doing it. Be casual
about it, but feel free to mention it in
conversation once or twice.

- GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE.

Don't get hung up, don't obsess about her, and
don't make it important to "win her back". Just
move on.

This combination will give you the greatest
chance of winning her back...

And the next time you meet a beautiful woman
that has an interesting personality, DON'T TURN
INTO A PREDICTABLE, BORING, CLINGY, WUSSY!

You've done a great job getting this far. Now
get back in there and take this to the next level!

And if you're reading this right now and
thinking to yourself "I need to learn this stuff
so I can meet beautiful women like this guy...",
then we have to talk.

One of the most important insights I've gotten
from learning the secrets of how to attract women
is very interesting...

I've realized that if a man doesn't know how to
attract women, it spills over into all other areas
of his life. It's a very special kind of
insecurity that causes a lot of problems in other
areas as well.

Let's face it.

Just about everything that men do to achieve
material success in life is somehow connected to
ATTRACTING WOMEN.

But guess what?

Material success won't make the INSECURITY and
the FEAR go away!

The only thing that WILL make it go away is
actually LEARNING how to attract women.

I know, because I've been there. I can CLEARLY
remember how different I felt inside when I had no
idea how to meet women... and I know how different
it feels now that I do.

My relationships work better, because I'm not
acting AFRAID... afraid that she's going to leave,
afraid I won't be able to find someone else...
etc.

And when I'm single, I'm happy. I don't
constantly worry anymore, not knowing if I'll ever
meet another woman.

I personally think that taking the time to
learn how to make women feel ATTRACTION is one of
the best investments you will ever make in
yourself and your life, period.

It might be THE best investment.

If you'd like to get the best training
available in the WORLD, then you need to get
yourself a copy of my Advanced Dating Techniques
CD/DVD Program.

It's a complete education, from the psychology
of how to overcome fear and improve your self
image, all the way to specific techniques for
approaching, meeting, and dating women... and even
how to take things to a "physical level" without
rejection.

I absolutely guarantee that this program will
change your success with women.

All the details, plus some great free audio and
video samples are here:

http://www.DoubleYourDatingMethod.co...dvancedSeries/

If you've gone through my Advanced Dating
Techniques program, and you enjoyed the INNER GAME
aspects of attracting women... and you've realized
that REALLY attractive women are more attracted to
INNER qualities than "techniques"... AND you want
to learn how to become the kind of man that women
are NATURALLY attracted to... and that they STAY
attracted to...

...then you REALLY need to check out my
program: "On Being A Man... Who Naturally Attracts
Women".

Inside this program you'll learn how to develop
the QUALITIES inside YOURSELF that women are
"naturally" attracted to.

This program will teach you how to leave your
"Inner Wuss" behind, and how to cultivate a
natural masculine power that women find literally
IRRESISTIBLE.


I'll talk to you again soon.

Your Friend,

David D.


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I have a GF. I spend most of my day at school. I'm a weekend warrior when it comes to the studio ... the time you spend with her is not crucial at all, my GF loves me, almost to the point of obsession ... it's just being the guy that attracts girls naturally.
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Wow,

Thanks guys…good stuff. I don’t have a problem getting girls, but keeping them is a different story..
Women are crazy…I guess I have to be less of a pushover…I am a bit of a dick to my clients and that seems to work fine….(they keep coming back)…..
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If you treat a women like 'gold' and they leave you...then you weren't actually treating them like gold....and maybe they had little respect to begin with.

You should worship your woman, make her feel like the most beautiful, loved and angelic queen in the world...all of the time....Everyday...
Bring out the soul of the world in your woman...mutal respect and a deep friendship.

It comes from knowing yourself.

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Try like 99%....

If you do treat them good, they trample you and abuse you until you either freak out and do something drastic (think concrete shoes) or dump them...
You have got to get a little deeper into your woman brother Randy...

There is a difference between being a whiny 'I'd do anything for you" ... compared to ... "If you want to be my woman you need to learn to have enough respect for yourself to allow me to praise you"... "If not...move on".

You ain't prasing her because she got some fine ass pussy....shit, pussy comes and goes and is in abundance in the world. Your are worshipping her because she is your woman, your companion, friend, partner...you are her man.
Woman need strong companions...on the mental and spiritual front.

Any relationship worth having starts with respect...and respect starts at home...with yourself. Respect yourself, the rest will follow....especially your woman.

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Women are crazy…I guess I have to be less of a pushover…I am a bit of a dick to my clients and that seems to work fine….(they keep coming back)…..
Hey bro, don't be a dick or a pushover. Try being yourself. How else will the right woman recognize you?

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....You should worship your woman, make her feel like the most beautiful, loved and angelic queen in the world...all of the time....Everyday...
Bring out the soul of the world in your woman...mutal respect and a deep friendship.

It comes from knowing yourself.....
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i dont have shit playing on the radio. i dont have $$, or ProTOOLS!.
No education. no family life. tattooed to my throat. and i ride a motorcycle.
((((NONE of that has gotten a girl to stay....or leave.
(all though their parents freakin' hated me a LOT!!)))

I dont want to sound all fatalistic...but consider, that you just havent met the right person for the long term relationship that will be a success.
its NOT YOUR fault. I wouldnt say its HER fault. you guys just werent meant to be...the process aint easy to go through...breaking up. the depression. anger. confusion.
just relax boss...you're doing just fine!
and eventually ((as long as you dont become some cynical asshole 100% of the time))) you're gonna find the right person. Dont let this shit get you down bro! we've ALL been there, and personally looking back...i'm so freakin glad the girls that left me DID leave me!!!


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Thanks again guys….

Well I have done some studying (thanks for the link copperx) I think she bailed because she doesn’t have much self esteem. She also mentioned one time that I have a crazy life (clients, parties, trips to L.A) and she wanted a simple life….some people can’t hang with this business (I live it 24-7) I know some of you can relate to that….

I am a bit torn however, It seems women (on some level) will treat you better if you aren’t so nice to them….they seem to like the challenge. I am always willing to learn from my mistakes, but women seem to be these dysfunctional creatures who need some form of abuse. Sad…..
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I would bet that it has little to do with you at all. People leave, nine times out of ten, because of stuff THEY themselves have done. We all want to blame it on the other person because that let's us off the hook. But I'd ferret out what she's been doing. It might not be real bad, but I'd bet there's something she's done she'd rather you not know about.

The treating her like gold is alright. I've been married 19 years and still going very strong. My wife knows I love her to death and wouldn't dream of roaming. But that's only part of the picture. It always takes two and there are always two sides to every coin. But being willing to say anything and everything with no secrets of any kind is the real key. And being able to be there and listen with out explosions when she needs to let go a bombshell (and vice versa) is another. Then it's a safe environment. It's all about communication.
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I agree w/ Durv. I like your post.

Try not to overthink it. Sometimes things just don't work out. Took me a lot of bad relationships before I found my wife of 9 years.

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You have got to get a little deeper into your woman brother Randy...

There is a difference between being a whiny 'I'd do anything for you" ... compared to ... "If you want to be my woman you need to learn to have enough respect for yourself to allow me to praise you"... "If not...move on".


Rodney,
I was exagerrating a bit

Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.
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Women like us need a good f··· everyday. It really has to do with that. Whenever someone is no longer attracted to their partner they will bail.
Guy or girl.
All the rest are just excuses.
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The funny thing is my job is way more demanding than hers and I was the one always willing to bend my schedule to meet her needs…AND…just to totally solidify my looser status I just found out I have to move and last night my car got broke into…..!!!!!! What a fun 2wks. Well I picketed up another album project this week…Man my life is so up and down…..
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I'm new here, but I got some experience in this topic.

I don't believe you should treat your woman badly. Thats just not gonna work out. What you should be doing is being self respecting. This means, respecting yourself enough that she doesn't begin to take advantage of you. Its not about being a jerk to her, its about being there for yourself so you can be there for her. Thats how a healthy relationship works. If you just treat her bad for the sake of it, you're just going to create a rift into the relationship because you're foundation is not based on respect.

It's obvious from the get go, that she isn't the right one for you. But I will say that she was while you were together, because you both needed this experience to learn and move forward. Nothing is perfect right off the hop!

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[QUOTE=copperx]Most of David's theory can be found for free ....QUOTE]



David D...HAHAHAHA. It's so funny. I've got the books if any of you guys want them. It's a good approach, but sometimes I feel too tired to act like that. Plus, it still helps if you're really good looking or have a lot of $$, and it helps if you don't do music. Unless you're really successful .. oh wait, I forgot that most rock stars are divorced. I guess you have to get used to it. I'm more or less comfortable being by myself at this piont, and for the long term.
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Ya,

Finding the illusive “right one”…….I would settle for the “semi close right one”.
I think I will just burry myself in work, seems to be where I belong…..thanks guys…!!
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Ya,

Finding the illusive “right one”…….I would settle for the “semi close right one”.
Yup, I know what you mean ...

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I think I will just burry myself in work, seems to be where I belong…..thanks guys…!!
Sorry but no no no! tutt "where I belong"? Dude, you're a man. Don't you deserve to have a girl? Even non-stop work machines & geniuses (Einstein, Donald Knuth, Maxwell) had a devouted significant other and in many cases several!

Finding a "semi close right one" is VERY HARD ... let alone a "right one". There are a LOT of immature, selfish, unintelligent woman out there hiding in pretty faces/bodies/clothes/makeup.

Stumbling upon the "right one" isn't happening anytime soon. Trust me.

The only way of weeding out the "not-right ones" is MEETING a LOT of women. It's simply about statistics (unless you believe in destiny).

Try meeting several woman on a weekly basis (and I'm not talking only about nightclubs, bars -- women are everywhere!). If there's anything that would prevent you from doing that (e.g. low self-esteem or fear) I would get rid of it as soon as possible (David D's materials, shrink, anything ...) and get on meeting girls. IMO, that's the ONLY way to go.
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If you live your professional life "24/7", then what time DO you have to "treat her like gold"?

It's none of my business, but I might suggest you strike a more realistic balance... or decide you don't have time for a relationship for now, that's your choice.

but NO ONE worth having is going to want to play second fiddle in your affections or attention.
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That’s just it we would literally have to schedule days to be together…I would massage my schedule around hers…when we did see each other I took that opportunity to “treat her like gold”…

I will admit I have no place for a relationship right now, but damm at the end of the day It’s nice to have someone to look forward to seeing. My life is so crazy that when I do have down time I want to hang with a girl that is the opposite of everything I am surrounded by (rock stars, fashion, self-absorbed blabla…..) I know some of you relate this industry goes fast, It’s hard sometimes..
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I want to hang with a girl that is the opposite of everything I am surrounded by (rock stars, fashion, self-absorbed blabla…..)

Isn´t that like 99.9999% of all women out there ?

This sounds like you are just tired of your enviroment.

Your break up has absolutely nothing to do with your work. That´s the part you don´t understand. It´s all your fault my friend, like someone said before. I´m the #1 looser in terms of women, I´ve had my heartbroken a trillion times and it is all my fault everysingle time. Don´t blame other things. Analize yourself and go from there.
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Old 10th February 2006   #23
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Hmmm…

Yes, my fault….but how….that is the question….My (Job) play’s a major role in my life and better or worse it affect every aspect of my life..I hate to think this is all my fault…women tend to stray sometimes..
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Hmmm…

Yes, my fault….but how….that is the question….My (Job) play’s a major role in my life and better or worse it affect every aspect of my life..I hate to think this is all my fault…women tend to stray sometimes..
Ok, what does she complain about then ? or what has she been complaining about up until she broke up with you ? I´m sure she has given you hints all this time that you probably didn´t notice. And another thing.. if you prefer your job then you probably didn´t love her as much as you think you do. How long have you been together ? and bro, most important.. how was the sex ? I was on a 2 year relationship only because the sex was real good. I didn´t love her, she didn´t get along with my friends, she was a pain to deal with but I kept myself there because we had a pretty good conection in bed.

I don´t want to sound like that psychologist dude.. but I seriously believe that sex is 95% of a relationship, unless ofcourse you are married and have a family where other things come into play.

And another thing to think about which I have always seen is that a woman would never leave a guy because of his work or time spent. They either dump you because you were unfaithful, you treat her like crap, you live in a different city, or she plainly fell out of love with you. Or the hardest one, which is she found someone else. (which usually happens after one of the things I mentioned above).

you could also pm thethrillfactor.. he´s got the love doc thing down!
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Hmmm…

Yes, my fault….but how….that is the question….My (Job) play’s a major role in my life and better or worse it affect every aspect of my life..I hate to think this is all my fault…women tend to stray sometimes..
I wouldn't spend too much time trying to figure out who's "fault" it was - a little one dimensional don't you think?

It's fair to say that most people are not self aware enough nor possess the language to really tell you what isn't working in the relationship; yet we as humans have an astonishing and intrinsic ability to decipher these things.

Ever wonder how so many perfect dysfunctional find each other?

As sad as it is, we're destined to repeat and act on relationship models which are familiar to us unless we make conscious decisions not to.

If being treated "like gold" didn't fit her relationship schema, then it was never gonna work in the first place.

People love to blame the symptoms of a failing relationship as cause for a break up while ignoring the fundamental and underlying problems. "Loss of interest" is just so utterly vague, that I doubt even she, if prodded, could tell you why she lost interest without citing more surface symptoms.

Good luck with your career, it sounds as if you're doing well.

Enjoy the single life. It is a good life.
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Well,

Thanks, your comments are on point…I agree there seems to be an element of sub consciousness dictating her decisions…I find it odd “in the place where I live” ambition comes at a high price…honestly, I am surrounded by lazy people and she has little ambition, I know that difference played a role in our situation.

I have decided to focus on the positive aspects of my life and go from there… Thanks again to all who have taken the time to reply you guys ROCK !!!!!
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Sure, if you have an insecure partner who needs to be constantly reminded of how hot she is...

WORSHIP her? What is this, an R&B song?
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FINNALLY a topic I"m an expert at

Man honestly after losing my mother, father and grandmother in '03 it helped me to get over a break up.

I was feeling like How the hell can I be heartbroken when my MOTHER is dying.

Since then I've learned to take every relationship and part of life as "for the moment"


Life is like waiting for your train in the station. While you are there you will encounter some good people/conversation (relationships) who happen to be in the same space in time with you at that moment. Eventually one of you will get on your train. (could be moving on or death etc...) and you will separate from one another.

Just enjoy the moments and get on the next train.

Women like to feel they have someone who is more stable than they are. (IT's why pimps make money honestly). This doesnt have to mean financial. They like to have somewhat of a stronger figure/father figure in a partner. Someone who has more direction and seems to always be in control in her opinion. Women say they want an equal but they honestly do not.

IF we are equal why am I expected to hold doors open, pay for dates, or do anything else that she deems what a "gentleman" should do.

I've had women pay for dates but hand me the money to physically "pay" so that she'd feel better.

Bottom line

IS THEY ARE Crazier than us and that's scary!

GET on the next train. you'll feel better
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Well,

Thanks, your comments are on point…I agree there seems to be an element of sub consciousness dictating her decisions…I find it odd “in the place where I live” ambition comes at a high price…honestly, I am surrounded by lazy people and she has little ambition, I know that difference played a role in our situation.

I have decided to focus on the positive aspects of my life and go from there… Thanks again to all who have taken the time to reply you guys ROCK !!!!!


Dont know what your religion is or your relationship with your "God" but it sounds like he/she did you a favor. Ambition always comes with a high price because misery loves company and people would prefer you be where they are.

For me I look at the bright side of everything, If I get a cold it could be God keeping me inside and away from a stray bullet that may have come my way otherwise.
It seems you have not only a bright side to look at, but given your description of her you have the equivalent of the SUN as a bright side.

Smile, you doged a bullet
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IF we are equal why am I expected to hold doors open, pay for dates, or do anything else that she deems what a "gentleman" should do.


There is nothing equal about it. And it isn't really meant to be. That's a crock.
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