3rd February 2010
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#1 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 26
Thread Starter | I'm Doomed : TINNITUS!
Hi Guys,
yes apparently now it's been 3months with TINNITUS, HYPERACUSIS, Right Mild hearing loss,Muffled hearing, Slight Diplacusis, Dizziness, Depression, Suicidal toughts etc. etc.
it's not only a little ring but it wrecks your life!!!
getting to the point :
I know there are some other enginers over here like me! and i'd like to get some advice how to re-emerge myself into music production. I've been 3 months away now and they seem like they were an eternity. I'd like to know how to cope and start living my normal life again....
My tinnitus is getting higher when i listen to low level music say like 60db and i get this low pitched hum as well for long hours even days...
anybody can help please?
thanks
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3rd February 2010
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#2 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Nov 2009
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Have you tried candling your ears?
Schools out on the opinions but I do it once a month.
I'm still breathing and enjoying ear fatigue. thumbsup
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3rd February 2010
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#3 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2009 Location: London, Ont, Canada
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Have you considered ear retraining therapy? Sorry about you situation, man that sucks. Every young feller on this forum should pay close attention to this kind of thread, nothing else matters when you can't hear.
Good luck
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3rd February 2010
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#4 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Nashville, TN
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I had a conversation with someone who had found a nutritional supplement that was supposed to help with tinnitus, he said it made a noticeable improvement for him, but for the life of me I can't remember the name of it.
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3rd February 2010
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#5 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2008 Location: USA
Posts: 602
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Originally Posted by lowfreq33 I had a conversation with someone who had found a nutritional supplement that was supposed to help with tinnitus, he said it made a noticeable improvement for him, but for the life of me I can't remember the name of it. | lemon bioflavonoids - seemed to reduce my tinnitus. helps some folks, not others.
your brain, over time, will learn to compensate. My tinnitus used to be very loud, but now it sounds like a dog whistle in the other room (when I think about it).
also, keep your stress low and get lots of sleep. avoid NSAID pain relievers like aspirin.
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3rd February 2010
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#6 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2009 Location: adirondacks
Posts: 578
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Originally Posted by Stevefire Hi Guys,
yes apparently now it's been 3months with TINNITUS, HYPERACUSIS, Right Mild hearing loss,Muffled hearing, Slight Diplacusis, Dizziness, Depression, Suicidal toughts etc. etc.
it's not only a little ring but it wrecks your life!!!
getting to the point :
I know there are some other enginers over here like me! and i'd like to get some advice how to re-emerge myself into music production. I've been 3 months away now and they seem like they were an eternity. I'd like to know how to cope and start living my normal life again....
My tinnitus is getting higher when i listen to low level music say like 60db and i get this low pitched hum as well for long hours even days...
anybody can help please?
thanks | How old are you if you mind me asking?
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3rd February 2010
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#7 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2009 Location: Trondheim Norway
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Have you been to an ear specialist doctor ?
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3rd February 2010
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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I have pretty serious tinnitus, used to it, fine with it... It does however worry me that it's only going to get worse, and I do still have to make a living mixing sound for say, the next 20 or 30 years... Oh welllllll |
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3rd February 2010
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#9 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2009 Location: West Virginia/Pennsylvania
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Go to an audiologist. I go to one once a year and have a complete battery of tests done. The best part for me is that it is free for students here at WVU since the techs are only students. Its pretty cool, actually. They have machines that literally plot a frequency response graph of your ear. The audiology teacher was surprised that I could understand it without an explanation.
I also took steps to nip this thing in the butt by getting some of those nifty musicians earplugs for when I do live work.
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3rd February 2010
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#10 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Dec 2008
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I've had it about 12 years. It's not as bad now as it used to be, I guess I've reprogrammed myself.
When it first started I was virtually deaf for about 6 months and it happened just at the peak of my production career. I thought that was it for me.
I've had my hearing checked and it's still above average, so no worries on the mixing front! Still mixing and producing everyday and able to sleep at night
Keep yourself hydrated and avoid caffeine, thats my best advice. You will get through it.
Needless to say, buy some earplugs.
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3rd February 2010
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#11 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2009 Location: Trondheim Norway
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Originally Posted by huub I have pretty serious tinnitus, used to it, fine with it... It does however worry me that it's only going to get worse, and I do still have to make a living mixing sound for say, the next 20 or 30 years... Oh welllllll  |
Within the next 20 to 30 years some genius will find a way to regenerate the hair cells, or any other broken part of the ear so we all will hear perfect.
By the way, I'v had tinnitus for 20 years.
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3rd February 2010
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#12 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2005
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Once you've damaged those hair cells in our ears, it's imperative to protect what's left. Wearing earplugs in any noisy environment is essential. Even driving in a car can damage your hearing, since it's a constant noise level accompanied by a low rumble underneath. Flying is also noisy, as are trips to the mall, sporting events, etc. Another thing you can do is use captions when watching DVD's. That way you can turn the sound down.
Many pro mixers work at a super low volume most of the time. When I've got clients who want to hear the playback on the big speakers, I pull on headphones and turn them off. I also make sure to wear isolation headphones while the drummer is warming up, and protect myself from other loud noises like guitar amps, tamborines, stuff like that.
Many people keep a low level noise source going to disguise tinnitus, like an ocean CD, or atmospheric music. In a tinnitus study, mood-altering drugs helped tremendously. They didn't make the tinnitus go away, but the afflicted no longer cared about the constant ringing in their ears because of their "elevated" mood.
It's possible to continue working with tinnitus, or damaged hearing. The head engineer of one of the busiest studios in town only has hearing in one ear, and he's doing just fine. On my mixing rig, I have a toggle switch to flip the stereo image, so I can make sure one side isn't out of balance. I also have a small set of speakers next to each other (basically a mono setup) on my left, which is my good ear.
There are worse things than tinnitus, like for instance, terminal bone cancer, so consider yourself lucky that you at least have your health.
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3rd February 2010
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#13 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Paris, Amsterdam, London
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I had also big hearing problems myself (ringing ears, often a cold, depression).
Strangely after seeing a specialist (otologist) who send me also directly to
a dietist (sorry im french I don't know the english word for it), it was related what I was eating...
to much salt,
to much coffee and alcohol.
And no outside impulse that's not related with music.
I stop using salt or way less on my food, no to less coffee and off the alcohol of already 5weeks.
And I can say... it works. I lost some weight, I have less ear fatique,
feel better in my body. I walk every day for minimal a hour between my
workschedule.
Walking is import for your ears and your body stability.
Found a new hobby to get new inspiration and impulse.
Can tell you that it sounds a bit hippie  flower power...
but it improved my life in a really good way.
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4th February 2010
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#14 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Rome, Italy
Posts: 853
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Scary stuff!
How did it start? If you don't mind sharing, did you have any bad listening habits? Monitoring at high levels, clubbing, live gigs without plugs, stuff like that. I'm always on the lookout on what could hurt my hearing...
Wish you get better and manage to deal with it.
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8th February 2010
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#15 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Central, NJ
Posts: 90
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Stevefire,
I can totally appreciate the level of stress you are going through. I have had tinnitus going on about 20 years! I have morrse code in my left ear and a general high pitch whine in both. I also have constant fluid in my left ear that emits a low rumble.
Yes it can be annoying and at times debilitating, but please know you can still have music as part of your life. Even at the same enjoyment level as before.
Here are somethings that worked for me.
Stress relief...Doesn't sound easy but it can be done I promise you. I actually did yoga and now some Karate and the exercise seems to help.
Water...Water helps the blood flow a little better. I notice the ringing diminish when I'm hydrated.
Sleep...Sleep is VERY important, Try to tire yourself out with exercise and not too much mental stimulation.
In time tinnitus will diminish and when it does get overly noticeable it will be more like a symptom of stress or being tired.
Have your hearing tested too. I have pretty bad nerve damage in my left ear, but still enjoy music.
Try to stay positive. Sounds hard but it is vital for you to continue doing something you enjoy.
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8th February 2010
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#16 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 26
Thread Starter |
Thankyou mojohand!
yes i've got the same liquid thing in my right ear that after noise exposure emits low rumble or hum and i actually feel something vibrating in my ear....
did you have hyperacusis at on point in time as well??? Tinnitus may be HELL, but hyperacusis is the deepest level of hell. PAin with everyday normal sounds like eating and driving....can you imagine listening to music with this??? IT"S IMPOSSIBLE
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8th February 2010
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#17 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Central, NJ
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I absolutely can feel the rumbling in my ear when it goes off! Happens worst when my allergies flair up but only seems to last a day. In fact my ear is sort of humming right now.
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8th February 2010
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#18 | | Gear Head
Joined: Dec 2007
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I have a friend who has/had it, and though it took awhile he got used to it. Actually, the consensus is, that his brain adapted to the situation and now he really only hears it when he listens for it.
Hopefully, the same thing will happen with you over time, if it doesn't go away completely that is.
He can still do great mixes.
Rick
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11th February 2010
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#19 | | Lives for gear
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