Some love for Nickelback!

[DSpec1]

Originally Posted by 15ips

too funny

What is funny? You may not like their success, but yes, they started at shitty bottom and worked and played their way into the 'mainstream'.

And no, I prefer other music to Nickelback's but the whole backlash seems to based on jealously and an "I rock much harder, smarter and greater" mentality.

So...go out, reach their level of success from a town of a couple thousand people in the middle of the Alberta prairie to the world's biggest stages. Then, please come back and tell your story.

[DJBlueDrink]

To all the douches taking the "Jealous, failed musician road" fuuck

I said it before, Nickelback has every right to be who they are, just should be called what they really are, Pop. The guitar playing equivalent of Britney Spears. Would I turn down a high paying Nickelback gig? You're damn right I would. I have turned down a high paying job in finance and I'd see this as no different. So before you accuse people of being jealous, or bitter, washed up, just stop and think that maybe it's not about the end result, fame, money, etc., but how you got there. I could make the same type of money doing things that I think are horrible. I CHOOSE not to.

It is of course important to distance yourself from any popular, mainstream, corporate America bullshit like Nickelback. After all, you have YOUR OWN taste and are soulful enough to see behind that utterly worthless crap that is sold by the millions every day. You are not only different from the crowd who likes this musical diarrhea, but of course also better than them.

Remember when you were a kid and your parents wouldn't let you do something and your rationalization was "Everybody's doing it" and they asked "If everyone jumped off a bridge would you?" Just because a lot of people want to do something doesn't make it a good idea for EVERYONE.

the actual music doesn't matter all that much to me either way I enjoy it.

Sorry to pick on you James. Usually I think you have very good views on things but this, I do not agree. It is actually an attitude that turns me away from certain musicians I meet in my personal life. I DO care about the music, therefore I would NOT, for all the money that we owe China, ever play a Nickelback song.

Anyway, I think I've said all I need to on this topic cuz I usually don't give Nickelback this much attention. They have their place, I just happen to think rock should well... Rock.

[Sounds Great]

Nickleback is everything that is wrong with music today. And for this I should show love?

[toneguru]

How bout showing indifference?

If you love the music so be it but I never understood the venom. Britny Spears or Nickleback... I never pay much mind. I don't even know if I have ever heard one of Nicklebacks songs. Either way it don't matter much to me.

Far too many musicians get upset at other musicians. Actually far too many people in general have a defeatist attitude toward life. Here in San Fran there is a backlash against cover bands. Some musicians think that the cover bands are hindering their potential for success.

I contend that if you are an aspiring musician you should compare yourself to the best. It serves no purpose to think that some "no talent like so n so can make it and here I am playing real music and blah blah blah.

Now if you have a problem with Clear Channel, that I understand. In many cases there are acts that Clear Channel shoves down the public's throat. Ahh, but that is another thread.

[DJBlueDrink]

Actually, It really is Clear Channel that I have the problem with, for shoving this crap down all throats. Everyone has a right to be terrible if they so choose.

[lettenmusic]

who the hell is Nickelback?

[Chris Lago]

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

I think some of the people who hate the band and say they wouldn't ever want to be successful doing music they didn't love have never been attached to anything with legs before. I could be wrong but I know from my experience with everything from playing in Dokken to being involved with American Idol just the energy of something successful has a life of it's own and can be incredible. If Nickelback asked me to go on a 5 star world tour playing guitar it would probably be some of the greatest times of my life. I think some of the posting on here is either untrue or coming from people who have no idea what they are talking about and have had zero success in music. My experiences with American Idol have been amazing, I've been a part of the show for 2 seasons, I never watched the show once leading up to being asked to host Idol Chat, I detested the show but the experience of being involved in something so huge and so successful has been amazing and I wouldn't change it for anything. It's more fun then staring at a computer screen. Oh yeah and you're surrounded by hot chicks, yeah I'd much rather be on second stage at some festival tour doing my own thing and thinking I'm important. I bet nearly everyone who says they wouldn't do Nickelback would be getting packed before they got off the phone with Chad if they were offered the gig. You have the rest of your life to record the next DSOM and be intense.

My 2 cents

Well said.

[Never1]

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

I think some of the people who hate the band and say they wouldn't ever want to be successful doing music they didn't love have never been attached to anything with legs before. I could be wrong but I know from my experience with everything from playing in Dokken to being involved with American Idol just the energy of something successful has a life of it's own and can be incredible. If Nickelback asked me to go on a 5 star world tour playing guitar it would probably be some of the greatest times of my life. I think some of the posting on here is either untrue or coming from people who have no idea what they are talking about and have had zero success in music. My experiences with American Idol have been amazing, I've been a part of the show for 2 seasons, I never watched the show once leading up to being asked to host Idol Chat, I detested the show but the experience of being involved in something so huge and so successful has been amazing and I wouldn't change it for anything. It's more fun then staring at a computer screen. Oh yeah and you're surrounded by hot chicks, yeah I'd much rather be on second stage at some festival tour doing my own thing and thinking I'm important. I bet nearly everyone who says they wouldn't do Nickelback would be getting packed before they got off the phone with Chad if they were offered the gig. You have the rest of your life to record the next DSOM and be intense.

My 2 cents

I can second this from actual experience, as well.

I was a top 10 finalist (my actual placing was higher but for privacy reasons, I won't divulge it on GS) on the Canadian version of Idol, some years back. I dissed and dismissed the show before this, but was dared to try out and did so for a laugh. I ended up getting pretty far into it and once your involved in anything that big, it is actually amazing and life changing and you tend to view the entire industry in a different light.

I have to agree with James when he says many don't know what they are talking about. If you've never been a part of something like that, it's hard to even fathom it.

Nickelback have worked and earner their success.

Horses for courses and no one has to listen to it. Hating on it and bitching just seems like a pointless waste of energy.

And people always like music they identify with. I don't get a lot of music/bands but I don't run around bitching and whining about 'em, either.

Props to NB for getting this far, esepcially these days.

[Sounds Great]

Originally Posted by Never1

Nickelback have worked and earner their success.

I'll agree with you there. Doesn't make their music not suck, though.

[labra44]

I am 35 years old, and have been in the construction industry since high school. I have worked my arse off for 15 straight years, barely get any vacations or any free time at all.

I have also been in several original and cover bands. I have had to play songs that I absolutely dispised, and even though I felt stupid, even though I felt like I was selling out, the girl standing front of me with the big boobs and the great smile was way hotter than the guy telling me where to build a wall. I would do it for money because my alternatives for making money are very limited. I would kill to be able to play my guitar and live a happy life doing so, not even rich, just paying the bills.

As far as nickelback, I can say when I heard their first song I probably liked it but I have liked each one less and less and now the new stuff is just crap. They do all sound the same and that "rock star" song is so flipping gay it makes me want to puke.

Greed runs rampant through every aspect of our society, it is not limited to just music. If it works, sell it and do it again. Just like building houses. If a certain style house is selling like hot cakes, I'm not gonna build a different style of house just to suit my own artistic thirst. I'm gonna build what people want because this is how I feed my family. Same goes for nickelback, except I'm not sure whether they like the direction of their own music or not. I guess that would be the end all be all of the conversation. Did they sell out or is this really the music that he wants to play? If it is then much respect and I will respectfully decline to listen to it. The guy is very talented, whether he writes it himself or not, he plays and sings at the same time and he does it well. That alone makes alot of the posts in this thread ridiculous. People act like he's britney spears lip-syncing everything. He has talent for sure, I just don't care too much for the music.

[Gharper23]

Originally Posted by FadersmakmeHappy

being in Nickelback would ****ing rock! NICKELBACK WOULD ROCK TO BE IN!

Yeah it would "rock" alright!

[PyroDano]

For better or worse,Anytime you put it on ,It's instantly recognizable.You know who it is.
A lot of what i read about on here is
what
makes a good song = good structure,played well,recorded well,mixed well,mastered well.Somewhere in there are lyrics too.
I feel bad for those who only hate when they hear them,instead of tapping your foot.

PS: I like the new creed too fuuck

[Kris]

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

I played plenty of gigs that I didn't get or like the music but it never destroyed my soul.

Don't you have to have a soul first before it can be destroyed? Just kidding of course!

I must confess that my wife laughs and makes fun of me when I crank up and rock out to the Nickelback rock star tune when it comes on the radio. After making fun of me she then joins in the sing along... apparently I also have no soul... and even my wife, who can't sing or play any instruments wants to be a rock star...

[Kris]

And a quick summary for those of you just finding this thread like me:

Nickelback SUCKS!!!!!!!!!





no,





Nickelback RULEZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chrislpp]

Originally Posted by FadersmakmeHappy

Those guys are RICH and they get to play music on stage in front of tons of oversexed women in their late teens and early 20's EVERY GODDAMN NIGHT!

And they're married.

[teo]

"How you remind me" was a perfect pop-rock hit. And a pretty good song too!

After that, from what I heard, it's been pretty much downhill, but I don't really get all the hate. Maybe it's because here in europe we don't get hammered that much with them...

They are a boring rockish band, they come a dime a dozen these days...why just hate THEM?

[Space Station]

Originally Posted by teo

I don't really get all the hate. Maybe it's because here in europe we don't get hammered that much with them...

They are a boring rockish band, they come a dime a dozen these days...why just hate THEM?

This thread is about them, so thats why the hate here is reserved for them. Obviously people hate much more music than just them.

Again it's nothing personal. A great sound is an uplifting wonderful thing, A bad sound is incredibly irritating in the worst possible way...it's like chinese water torture..it's physically painful...I dont like pain..I hate pain..so therefore I hate the sound Nickleback make.

[heyman]

Nickleback
Three doors Down
Daughtry
Creed
dfegaddfegad


Just drop a bomb and let the cockaroaches sort this shit out..



...

[Ernest Buckley]

Originally Posted by DP40oz

And yet the Chili Peppers are allowed to keep writing the same song over and over again about California and they get critical praise because 20 years ago they wrote Blood Sugar Sex Magic and so what they do now is more art and Nickelback is corporate. Every big band does the same thing. ACDC, Aerosmith, U2, Chili Peppers, they have a sound and they go with it. Now I don't think Nickelbacks in that league but lets not fool ourselves into thinking they're the only ones writing the same songs.

Now I in no way think Nickelback is anything great, I also don't really like most of their stuff but the hatred is so stupid. If you read about them they love to party, drink, get laid. Sounds like Rock n Roll to me. Actually sounds a lot more rock n roll then all these damn hipster bands with their whiny songs, skinny jeans and lame beards who can barely play guitar and for some reason im supposed to believe its really artistic.

Thank you.

My grandmother used to say, Jealousy is a fever. And there are many here jealous of NB. Whine and deny it all you want but just about every guy here would donate his left nut for a career like theres or to record a band like them. I`m out...

[teo]

Originally Posted by Space Station

This thread is about them, so thats why the hate here is reserved for them. Obviously people hate much more music than just them.

Again it's nothing personal. A great sound is an uplifting wonderful thing, A bad sound is incredibly irritating in the worst possible way...it's like chinese water torture..it's physically painful...I dont like pain..I hate pain..so therefore I hate the sound Nickleback make.

No, I mean so much hate for NB in general on this forum. Of course this thread is about them, and it's perfectly ok to hate them anyway.
I was not trying to defend them (you won't see my buying their music anytime soon!) I was genuinely trying to understand why they are pictured as the flag of everything that is wrong with music today when, to my ears, they are not much worse than most of what's out there, although I'm not into much "new" rock.

If I'm in the mood for Nickleback, I put on the ballsier, better original they tried to copy (Black Album?). Actually, I rarely hear rock stuff that grabs me anymore (sometimes, for example the latest Rasums was very good). Maybe I'm not listening to the right stuff, and somebody can point me in the right direction?

All I'm saying is that they cannot be the worst that there's out there...Kayne West anyone? dfegad

[Freematik]

Originally Posted by lettenmusic

who the hell is Nickelback?

They are a band that sucks

[MilesSmiles]

I have spent my life trying to get into one decent, not good, but decent band. Maybe play just one "acceptable" show. Maybe even one that isn't a sausagefest. Maybe for once in my life, get a girl who doesn't think music is a waste of time. Unfortunately, that has never happened, and now that I'm 26 and have a 55-hr a week job, it never well.

I would do anything, anything at all, to have a 10th of that success. Unfortunately, despite the hours, and hours, and hours, and hours of practicing, going to berklee, playing with everyone I possibly can, and the hours and hours and hours of networking over the years, none of it matters, because I'm not rail thin, I don't have a doochbag holier-than-thou attitude, and I don't have cool hair, as someone pointed out earlier.

Knock a band like that when you're at a similar level.

I can't. I would die to experience just one day they way they do. But I never will.

[Space Station]

Originally Posted by MilesSmiles

I would die to experience just one day they way they do. But I never will.

Man..thats really sad. You definitely wont with that attitude.

[MilesSmiles]

Originally Posted by Space Station

Man..thats really sad. You definitely wont with that attitude.

Funny, I used to be the only guy in the band with a positive attitude....while everyone else was screaming at each other over stupid things they would forget about the very next day.

I also showed up with working gear, a properly intonated bass, chord charts for the songs I wrote. Extra cables, picks and strings for everyone else that ALWAYS forgot them.

None of those things get you onto a huge stage though. Out of all the people I've known that are musicians, the ones with the most financial success were bigtime doochbags that would step on anyone and everyone.

but you're right, I'm the one with the bad attitude.

[toneguru]

Originally Posted by MilesSmiles

Out of all the people I've known that are musicians, the ones with the most financial success we're bigtime doochbags that would step on anyone and everyone.

but you're right, I'm the one with the bad attitude.

~~~~~~~~

Perhaps you are hanging with the wrong crowd?

I know there are exceptions but most of the successful musicians, producers and engineers that I have known are cool.

[MilesSmiles]

you're probably right. whatevs.....I gave up on all that a year ago, and got the hell out of new york...the city where it costs you $200 to play a gig, and another $40 in tolls and gas to get home.

now I have an actual real job, and I can do things, and go places. it's pretty liberating.

the point being, don't rip on nickelback unless you are at their level. they get more pussy in an hour than I'll get in my entire life.

Originally Posted by toneguru

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Perhaps you are hanging with the wrong crowd?

I know there are exceptions but most of the successful musicians, producers and engineers that I have known are cool.

[ambiguity]

Originally Posted by toneguru

How bout showing indifference?

If you love the music so be it but I never understood the venom. Britny Spears or Nickleback... I never pay much mind. I don't even know if I have ever heard one of Nicklebacks songs. Either way it don't matter much to me.

same here. i can't understand it. i don't like their music and i don't listen to them, period.

Clear Channel shoves nothing down people's throats - there's always the option of changing the station or turning the radio off. You don't have to listen to them EVER AGAIN if you don't want to. Nobody is forcing you.

[ambiguity]

Originally Posted by MilesSmiles

the point being, don't rip on nickelback unless you are at their level. they get more pussy in an hour than I'll get in my entire life.

That's a pretty flawed point, and sort of popular on this forum. No, you don't have to be a super famous musician to have an opinion about a band, just like you don't have to know how to paint to like or dislike a painting.

Also, no, you don't have to be envious to dislike something or have an opinion about it.

[MilesSmiles]

Originally Posted by dragan

same here. i can't understand it. i don't like their music and i don't listen to them, period.

Clear Channel shoves nothing down people's throats - there's always the option of changing the station or turning the radio off. You don't have to listen to them EVER AGAIN if you don't want to. Nobody is forcing you.

you are correct, but indirectly, music does get shoved down your face...every time you go to a barber shop, or store, or at just about every job I've ever had there is a radio blasting somewhere. and if you ask to change it, you're the automatic doochbag, and you catch hell for it.

So yes, music does get shoved down throats.

I guess you do always have the option of becoming a recluse. A viable option for a coltrane fan like myself.

[Space Station]

Talent is just one small part of being a successful musician.

I know plenty of bedroom musicians that are more talented than famous musicians. But they have zero drive, lazy, no self belief, sometimes no ego or are too honest. They are still sitting in the bedroom.

Yet I know terrible musicians, and I mean awful..that tour the world, get incredible opportunities blah blah and they have massive egos, full of utter bulls h it, incredible drive, incredible self belief, ultra thick unbreakable skins..compulsive liars..etc

It seems this is much more important to me..or at least as important. Probably the biggest stars have both...maybe..