Joe Perry frustrated over Steven Tyler accident

[Sounds Great]

Joe Perry frustrated over Steven Tyler accident

NEW YORK – Joe Perry is angry that Aerosmith has been sidelined due to Steven Tyler's tour injury.

The group had to cancel their summer tour after the frontman suffered injuries when he fell off the stage during a concert in August.

"The tour was building up to be a great tour, and I was pretty (upset), you know," Perry said in an interview on Wednesday.

[PoorGlory]

Jump to conclusions much?

[tulsraeg]

Hats off to Styler, no matter what... tutt

[fonman]

Originally Posted by PoorGlory

Jump to conclusions much?

I thought that at first too. Then I clicked on the link, and unless the reporter is completely falsifying, I have to agree with the OP, that Perry is a jerk.
By the way, I also think it's funny that you criticized the OP for jumping to conclusions, as you were in mid flight. I almost did too.

[AllAboutTone]

Sounds like the band is fading away even before the accident, (maybe because of the current music Industry) they are getting pretty old and anytime there is a injury it will take a lot more time to heal.

Well if they quit today they cannot say that they have not did it all and did it many many times. Many bands would love to have 2 percent of what they have had in there career.

[Gravity]

Yea... I gotta say I don't think he's a jerk per se... I can understand a bit of frustration when he goes on to say a few things that indicate the band relationship might be strained... I mean to say "He hasn't spoken to me in weeks, I don't know what's going on with him" and "We haven't sat down and written a song in over 10 years in the same room together" that's gotta be an indicator of some other underlying problems...

[Fletcher]

I had a couple of friends on the tour [crew and 'sidemen'] and went to go see a couple of shows. They had already lost Brad Whitford and Tom Hamilton to illness so it was really just Kramer, Tyler and Perry... I suppose they might have gone on without Kramer, but couldn't without Steven.

FWIW it was a good production... they sounded just like Aerosmith!! In fact, I'd say they sounded like the best Aerosmith tribute band I'd ever experienced... they looked so lifelike you would have thought they were the real thing!!

I have a few friends working on the Joe Perry Project record... all reports are that it is coming out pretty damn good despite a fair bit of Pro-sTools abuse. Haven't heard any of the tracks but word on the street from some of the guys working on it is that it's coming out OK.

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

They had already lost Brad Whitford and Tom Hamilton to illness so it was really just Kramer, Tyler and Perry... I suppose they might have gone on without Kramer, but couldn't without Steven.

I assume/hope this is just temp? no serious issues ? wow first I have heard about that.

[PoorGlory]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

Ya, I *could* be wrong, but from what I read, he seems to be pretty selfish and self centered. Steven got pretty bashed up FOR the band.

I saw them live about 10 years ago and I have NEVER seen anyone working as hard as Tyler on the stage at any age. Very impressive. thumbsup

Sad new for Joe is that he is much more expandable with respect to the band, as good as he is, and he is a fantastic guitarist. However there is no replacement for Steven Tyler.

I don't get that at all from the article. It seems like the author tried to make it seem that way, but Perry's words alone aren't jerk-like.

I worked security for an Aerosmith show once. The only band I worked for ever to kick all house personnel out of the venue during soundcheck. Tyler's request.

They rock live though.

[Glenn Kuras]

I agree. The only statement that seemed bad was

All I know is he's got to get his act together. I mean, he and I haven't written a song together alone in the same room in over ten years, so there's been some changes in paradigm of what Aerosmith is

Yea I can understand feeling that way, but expressing it to the press can never come out right.

I would also be bummed if worked hard for a tour and it did not happen. I guess Joe could have thrown in a "I hope he feels better" which maybe he did and the writer FORGOT to put it in?

Needless to say I take my hat off to anyone/band that can have on going success for so many years.

[Fletcher]

Originally Posted by PoorGlory

I don't get that at all from the article. It seems like the author tried to make it seem that way, but Perry's words alone aren't jerk-like.

I worked security for an Aerosmith show once. The only band I worked for ever to kick all house personnel out of the venue during soundcheck. Tyler's request.

Most bands do that these days. There has been an increasing trend to sell "VIP access" which gives fans the ability to see soundcheck [even though they usually only get to witness "line check" / "crew band" check]... followed by dinner in band catering, "hard passes" [which basically get you to nowhere other than a 'hospitality suite'] and premiere seating [usually in the "band comp / grown up" section which more often than not is off stage left off the floor about 15-20 rows back].

It's a great racket... they usually charge about $1k per "pass"... about an average of $40-50k to let a bunch of civilians into work areas [often to the chagrin of the crew].

The Stones took it a step farther selling "standing room" in the stage [like the work area where there are lights / the staging that is used to hold up the SR system] for $475/head available ONLY through American Express... now the best part is that the Stones "sold the tour" to a promoter for X millions of dollars and from what I understand that promoter didn't get a piece of the "band carried luxury boxes" [which were FAR from luxury!!... idiots were STANDING in a work area looking at the asses of 60+ yr. old men without getting to see the majority of the "show production"].

I love rock and roll... even to this day it still has a shady side from hell!!

[PoorGlory]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

Most bands do that these days. There has been an increasing trend to sell "VIP access" which gives fans the ability to see soundcheck [even though they usually only get to witness "line check" / "crew band" check]... followed by dinner in band catering, "hard passes" [which basically get you to nowhere other than a 'hospitality suite'] and premiere seating [usually in the "band comp / grown up" section which more often than not is off stage left off the floor about 15-20 rows back].

This was back in like 99-2000... don't think they started doing that until recently. In comparison to my Aerosmith observations, Ted Nugent was ultra cool during sound check for a show I was working.... he started giving out bullets (live rounds) to security, but the police made him stop before I got any, and everyone had to give them back. Tom Petty started taking requests from security and ushers during soundcheck at another show, which was ultra cool. Just little things that tell a bigger story about a person, I think.

[Trancetones]

Off topic, but I heard a story from a friend of a friend in Massachusetts they were in Home Depot on a Sunday Afternoon, they turn the corner to the plumbing section and there is Steven Tyler pushing his cart....buying some hardware....In a full leather hot pink jump suit with a leopard print scarf.

[plexisys]

This has been going with them since the 70s. At one point on tour they wouldn't even stay in the same hotels with each other. On any given day we used to bet if there was going to be a show or not.

[ripper]

I used to see aerosmith a lot in the mid to late 70's. that band was always gigging and they were great back then.

perry had a song he played on one of his first solo tours called "No Substitute For Arrogance"... the title says it all

i dont think it's really in the old rocker genetic makeup to ever actually grow up or mature as an individual. so do they throw tantrums in their little sandbox? i'd bet on it!

[Jay Fitz]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

I have a few friends working on the Joe Perry Project record... all reports are that it is coming out pretty damn good despite a fair bit of Pro-sTools abuse. Haven't heard any of the tracks but word on the street from some of the guys working on it is that it's coming out OK.

Looks like Joe can't wait...he's announced a local gig w/ The Joe Perry Project in Plymouth (the Pilgrim/Mayflower Plymouth) this weekend. It was supposed to be a surprise gig, but U2 is playing the same night at the stadium so I think it had to be pushed a bit harder as most concert-goers will be at the U2 show...

[Flogger59]

I had a buddy that did manufacturer's tech support on a tour a few years back, said Tyler was a bipolar a*sh*le. They went through 13 monitor engineers on the tour. The first guy to quit had the gig for more than 10 years.

[TheFirstThird]

I spent some time with Joe Perry one afternoon about 3 years back, and he was walking with a cane, so....

[plexisys]

Originally Posted by Flogger59

I had a buddy that did manufacturer's tech support on a tour a few years back, said Tyler was a bipolar a*sh*le. They went through 13 monitor engineers on the tour. The first guy to quit had the gig for more than 10 years.

This has been common for them from the start. I did my first tour with them in 77. On any given day nobodys job was secure. You could be fired and never even know why. Monitor mixers came and went almost weekly if not daily. I know a very established monitor mixer that got fired as soon as he got to the venue because he didn't "look" rock enough. Guy never even got a chance to mix. It was a no win job for anyone.

It got so bad that friends of mine would call me and say "I just got asked to mix monitors." I'd tell every one of them not to take the job no matter what the offer was.

The stories I could tell.........

[toneguru]

Rock stars are no different than other celebrities. I doubt pro athletes or movie stars are any less arrogant?

I suppose it comes with the territory of million dollar contracts and fan adoration. The rare individual maintains their dignity and class.

Also, when the media reports the blow ups they are then again blown out of proportion. Any angle from the media should be taken with a grain of salt.

I am pretty certain that all of us slutz are more apt to believe the personal accounts from guys in the trenches. True enough, nobody knows the band like a monitor mixer.

Anyway, anybody that jumps to the conclusion that Perry is an ass just from that one story ... I don't know it just seems wrong.

[plexisys]

I can assure you no one in the band, nor the punters they carried around, had a monopoly on the mayhem and misery caused.

[jono_3]

Ultimately, personalities aside, it would be tough to get mad at someone for accidentally being hurt. I could see Perry being frustrated, but mad? Tyler wouldn't have cancelled if he didn't need too. So suck it up Joe, its probably good press for your solo record.

[Sid Viscous]

Meh. They haven't been Aerosmith since Draw the Line.

[vixapphire]

Well, if nothing else, Perry's comments demonstrate why he ought to zip his lip and "Let the music do the talking"!!!

[tulsraeg]

Well I've met Saint Tyler once and we talked a little bit...
He was just the sweetest guy ever.