Digital Sucks! The sooner you understand this the better off you are going to be...

[Careyn]

I am tired of all this sales pitch BS! I am disgusted by all the hype surrounding new DSP ''innovations'' with usb connections that get marketed in magazines and sell for $3000 only to lose %80 of their value and go out of fashion in a few years to be replaced by whatever gimmick they put out this year. I am tired of plugins that cost absolute sh!t to reproduce costing $1000. Emulators emulating emulations that fall short. I am tired of this industry trying to cut corners everywhere! I am tired of all the made in china ''pro gear''

Get out of this mentality they are trying to put you in.

Real gear costs real money to make. A mixer with summing amps preamps hardware eq wiring costs real money to make. The latest innovating emulation emulating it wont hold a candle to the actual components that make the board what it is. I don't care who you pay to tell me otherwise.
And if you take the guts out of the mixer and replace it with a computer that runs software to make bigger profit I WONT BUY IT! Sorry you can **** Off.

Enough already.

I am tired of synths hardware and software sounding like absolute SH!T.
Have accountants took over 95% of the companies and turned the keyboard industry to S***? What is this S**t? Toys are us? I am tired of these weak *** emulations that sound like a turd. Sure you can pay somebody to tell me the turd is great you can edit the turd shape the sound of the turd add effects to the turd but the bottom line is the tone of the instrument sucks and shouldn't be part of your song to begin with. Period.

Doesn't anybody want to make a piece of gear that works like it is supposed to anymore? Something that... you know... could inspire people?
Is the business model of paying all the money to advertisers and product placement and replacing actual components with gimmics to give the end consume s**t for his money and make big profit the only business model companies follow these days ?

**** all this! And **** the liars that are spreading all this nonsense everywhere!
A plug-in doesn't sound as a compressor! It sounds like a plug in.

Get a nice little board a few pieces of kit that you like and have proven to be useful maybe even tape! Yes you read correctly! Tape! Maybe if you play keyboards get a few good old keyboards that work with voltage not software and sound nice and make some nice music! Get out of the mentality ''I can do everything the big studio can with software'' they are trying to put you in and get your money with endless possibility emulators and the rest of the BS! Instead focus on building a good home studio that works like... a good home studio! Focus on actual components and you will have much better sound in the end. Not with ****** software and software in hardware trying to do what real gear is supposed to do and most of the time falling short! I am not saying don't use software but is this really all you want to build your home studio on?

Digital sucks! The sooner you understand this the better off you are going to be.

[claend]

Feeling better now?

[RTR]

BRAVO!!! So does the government but people been buying into their BS for ever!!!

[rkwyent]

Nothing to see here people keep moving...

[AudioWonderland]

My digital gear does sound good and has worked fine for years. So much for that argument..


Ranting like a mindless child will certainly not convince me to consider your opinion.....

[psycho_monkey]

On behalf of all the regulars here, I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome this month's troll to the forum!

[Grumblefoot]

welcome indeed!

[The dman]

Oh boy here we go again

[Kainer]

Originally Posted by Careyn

A plug-in doesn't sound as a compressor! It sounds like a plug in.

try some blind tests. better than talking this kind of (sorry) sh*t.

[CapnMarvel]

Only a poor craftsman blames his tools.

I'm definitely no pro, and I'm no genius, but all my crap works, digital or otherwise.

[prismtheory]

Yeah! All of the people who make brilliant sounding recordings with less expensive

equipment should dump it! Forget about all of the time you've spent mastering your

little software plugins and non-USA made gear, you've been completely wasting

your time! Now go sell a kidney, rob a bank and buy some "real" equipment...then

spend a few more years learning how to master THOSE tools...and you'll be in

awesome shape with REAL equipment. Don't worry, everyone who listens to music

will TOTALLY know the difference.

[kats]

I'm with the first guy

[xgabrielx]

Did your WUP expired and your new UAD doesnt work with your AMD mainboard?

Dude whats your problem?
If you wonna go with oldschool, than take the road, but dont tell anybody that this is the only way to make good records?!?!?!

I know people who do magic things with a good pre-amp/a good AD/DA / a good mic / a good backline and a good performance ---ALL IN THE BOX.

Maybe digital doesnt work for you, but for a lot of other people!!!

[rty5150]

those damn automobiles will never replace horse drawn carriages! new fangled technology!!!

[rty5150]

BTW, beta max is the shizzzzzz

[El-Roy]

A little agitated today? Is there a lot of broken stuff around you right now? Better yet any bodies on the ground in front of you? Give us your where abouts so we can call in for help! You're going to the looney bin!

[unclejoe]

come on grandpa, back in your chair.

[FireMoon]

have you tired turning it off and on again?

[Jaques Beraques]

When keeping it real goes wrong.....

[El-Roy]

Well at least I don't have to worry about offending you Careyn, I know that I'll never end up working w/you in this digital world. Crazy ba$tard!

[Flying_Dutchman]

both worlds got it´s strength for me:
digital: equing out problem frequencies, limiting, technical sidechain compression, gating,
analog: everything that needs a sound

[capnreverb]

Originally Posted by Careyn

I am tired of plugins that cost absolute sh!t to reproduce costing $1000. ...............

Using that logic, cd's should cost a buck and downloads nothing.

It is very time consumming and difficult to create those plug in's whether you think they are crappy sounding or not.

Likewise, a medicine company might spend a fortune in developing a specialised medicine that in the end is cheap to actually manufacture. How is the company supposed to make a profit to develop more medicines if they do not include the R and D in the final cost?

[la grange]

and we're off!
Again.

Oli

[theblue1]

Originally Posted by Careyn

I am tired of all this sales pitch BS! I am disgusted by all the hype surrounding new DSP ''innovations'' with usb connections that get marketed in magazines and sell for $3000 only to loose %80 of their value and go out of fashion in a few years to be replaced by whatever gimmick they put out this year. I am tired of plugins that cost absolute sh!t to reproduce costing $1000. Emulators emulating emulations that fall short. I am tired of this industry trying to cut corners everywhere! I am tired of all the made in china ''pro gear''

Get out of this mentality they are trying to put you in.

Real gear costs real money to make. A mixer with summing amps preamps hardware eq wiring costs real money to make. The latest innovating emulation emulating it wont hold a candle to the actual components that make the board what it is. I don't care who you pay to tell me otherwise.
And if you take the guts out of the mixer and replace it with a computer that runs software to make bigger profit I WONT BUY IT! Sorry you can **** Off.

Enough already.

I am tired of synths hardware and software sounding like absolute SH!T.
Have accountants took over 95% of the companies and turned the keyboard industry to S***? What is this S**t? Toys are us? I am tired of these weak *** emulations that sound like a turd. Sure you can pay somebody to tell me the turd is great you can edit the turd shape the sound of the turd add effects to the turd but the bottom line is the tone of the instrument sucks and shouldn't be part of your song to begin with. Period.

Doesn't anybody want to make a piece of gear that works like it is supposed to anymore? Something that... you know... could inspire people?
Is the business model of paying all the money to advertisers and product placement and replacing actual components with gimmics to give the end consume s**t for his money and make big profit the only business model companies follow these days ?

**** all this! And **** the liars that are spreading all this nonsense everywhere!
A plug-in doesn't sound as a compressor! It sounds like a plug in.

Get a nice little board a few pieces of kit that you like and have proven to be useful maybe even tape! Yes you read correctly! Tape! Maybe if you play keyboards get a few good old keyboards that work with voltage not software and sound nice and make some nice music! Get out of the mentality ''I can do everything the big studio can with software'' they are trying to put you in and get your money with endless possibility emulators and the rest of the BS! Instead focus on building a good home studio that works like... a good home studio! Focus on actual components and you will have much better sound in the end. Not with ****** software and software in hardware trying to do what real gear is supposed to do and most of the time falling short! I am not saying don't use software but is this really all you want to build your home studio on?

Digital sucks! The sooner you understand this the better off you are going to be.

Gosh, thanks for telling me what to think. After nearly 3 decades of recording, I really didn't have any ideas of my own, I hadn't learned a damn thing. Obviously.





See, here's the difference between you and me: I don't see everything in black and white. I don't see the world as a conspiracy designed to fool me. I've lived a lot of life, seen a lot of stuff. Life is exceedingly complex. Truth is hard to pin down and always looks different from different perspectives.

And what works for me, I know, won't necessarily work for you.

But -- fundamentally -- while I'm certainly as arrogant and condescending as is often charged, I'm still not stupid enough to think there's only one answer that will work for everyone -- and that I have it -- and even if did think so, I'd like to think I'd probably still be savvy enough not to spew it out in a barely coherent rant that's far more likely to alienate others by insulting them, than to convince them that everything they thought they knew was wrong.


PS... Doesn't this belong in the Music Computers Forum?

[lazarus]

Regardless of what your argument is, you LOSE all cedibility by spelling the word LOSE! l-o-o-s-e. Come on man I'm not one to pick apart spelling all the time on a forum, but that is elementary school curriculum

[rkwyent]

He might have lost another customer to Pro Tools LE.

[soundbarnfool]

Well, I certainly prefer analog... But digital has it's place I guess. Just not in my studio.


Inglewood SoundBarn

[mexicola]

Originally Posted by soundbarnfool

Well, I certainly prefer analog... But digital has it's place I guess. Just not in my studio.


Inglewood SoundBarn

My thoughts exactly!!!

[mdjice]

I mixed a record entierly in the box and it went gold single gold album and double platinum compilation, you are right .....digital SUCKS !!??.... (for the record I have a large format console too so I know what I'm talking about) it's not the tools it's the Engineer!
PS: I also produced that record only with soft synths...

[rkwyent]

Originally Posted by mdjice

I mixed a record entierly in the box and it went gold single gold album and double platinum compilation, you are right .....digital SUCKS !!??.... (for the record I have a large format console too so I know what I'm talking about) it's not the tools it's the Engineer!
PS: I also produced that record only with soft synths...

Now that souds SWEET!!!