Michael Jackson R.I.P.

[Fruition2k]

In February 1983 our band had just finished a few songs in the studio, we
were hanging out in the parking lot and someone had Thriller on in their car.
We all just looked at each other and realized that the bar was raised so high
and every song a hit or on its way to being one. How could we compete or
get noticed now...! At 18 I was blown away and loved Michael's music and it
never wore off for me..
Yesterday pulled out my Half speed mastered LP of Thriller and played again...
Its a true masterpiece from a true artist.

Michael you'll be missed and thankfully we have alot to enjoy and learn from
through your music.
RIP..

[so serious]

Originally Posted by Jeffguitar

Maybe all the MJ lovers will lay in their beds dreaming of his great artistic TOP 40 DANCE MUSIC, and they'll BEAT IT, Just BEAT IT.

Notice all the tear jerkers were young when Thriller came out and they think that was great music. the older guys were listening to real music when they grew up, Zeplin, Stones, Beatles, Doors, Joplin, actual real, individual music, not top 40 dance garbage. You young kids cry and get all your tears out now, you'll be dreaming of him walking along doing the Billy Jeam video, and thinking it was the equivalent of the Stones and the Beatles, laughable, just laughable.

What this thread really shows is the great gulf between age groups on this forum. We older guys grew up listeing to the Who, the Beatels, Zep, the Stones, while you young kids think the Top 40 dance crap was real artsitic music. More power to you, cry your eyes out then, by all means. us older guys think that Thriller was the beginning of the end of real music, with real guitars and real drums, doing real rock&roll. How sad that anyone can put MJ on the same level as the Stones, the Beatles, Zeplin, Hendrix.... It's just sad that the kids don't know what their real Rock&roll heritage is. Yeah, top 40 dance stuff like Thriller is just classic Jam, sure, lol. This thread is really about young guys tryng to tell older guys what real artistic music is, it's a generation gap thread, that's what it is. Hmm, Thriller, or Allman brothers live at the Filmore, I'll take the Allman brothers every day of the week, to bad you kids don't know the difference between the two.

Actually its too bad that an old Fart like you cant see the similarities between the two.
Its people like you who create the great gulf, but only for yourself.

Its like you are on some remote island with blinders on still living in the late sixties-early seventies.

Its all Pop Music, (short for popular)
The Beatles Let It Be, Stones Satisfaction, Allmans Im No Angel etc had the same musical elements that any hit recording has to have. It connects with the people,

It just so happens that Thriller has connected with more people than any other album in history. That doesnt negate the greatness of the Allman Brothers, but if you feel like you can do better than Thriller, go to the studio and prove it because until now, there has never ever been in our lifetime a musical artist more popular than Micheal Jackson love him or hate him.

"Live With It" because there's nothing you can ever do to change that for as long as you may live. Also Lets not forget the fact that Micheals greatest albums were produced by Quincy Jones who also worked with Sinatra, Celine Dion, Duke Ellington, but I guess they are probably garbage to you as well.

Quincy is 76 years old and Greg Allman is 61, Mick Jagger is 65, and they are all still cool as hell and very relevant. Lots of young fans respect them also.

Just think, maybe one day when you grow up you could be relevant too

Those of us who have positive energy flowing through our bodies would feel sad if we lost any of our musical legends as we did when we lost Lennon, Hendrix, John Denver, Marvin Gaye, and Elvis.

The most important question you should ask yourself is how many people will tearjerk when you leave the planet.
OR WILL THEY LINE UP TO........ dfegad on your grave.

I think I'll go listen to some Micheal Jackson "Thriller", George Harrison "When We Were Fab", Notorious B.I.G. "Hypnotize" Britney Spears, Jonas Brothers,

And in your honor "Jeffguitar"
I Think I'll throw in what I consider to be a "Pop Classic" Little River Band and "Reminisce"

MICHEAL JACKSON = KING OF POP, ED MCMAHON, FARRAH FAWCETT REST IN PEACE

[Sounds Great]

Originally Posted by IM WHO YOU THINK

It's amazing that anyone would post their "opinions" against his music on a thread titled "Michael Jackson RIP" Please respect the man and his fans enough to honor their opinion and its right to differ from your own..

Jealousy can be such a strong emotion.

Michael Jackson gave up his whole life to make the music that touches so many people to this day. He never had a chance to live anything close to the normal life that we all take for granted. Money and possessions can be very overrated.

[JackyChen]

Thank you Michael.
You take me into the music world.
R.I.P Michael

[RTR]

Originally Posted by Jeffguitar

Maybe all the MJ lovers will lay in their beds dreaming of his great artistic TOP 40 DANCE MUSIC, and they'll BEAT IT, Just BEAT IT.

Notice all the tear jerkers were young when Thriller came out and they think that was great music. the older guys were listening to real music when they grew up, Zeplin, Stones, Beatles, Doors, Joplin, actual real, individual music, not top 40 dance garbage. You young kids cry and get all your tears out now, you'll be dreaming of him walking along doing the Billy Jeam video, and thinking it was the equivalent of the Stones and the Beatles, laughable, just laughable.

What this thread really shows is the great gulf between age groups on this forum. We older guys grew up listeing to the Who, the Beatels, Zep, the Stones, while you young kids think the Top 40 dance crap was real artsitic music. More power to you, cry your eyes out then, by all means. us older guys think that Thriller was the beginning of the end of real music, with real guitars and real drums, doing real rock&roll. How sad that anyone can put MJ on the same level as the Stones, the Beatles, Zeplin, Hendrix.... It's just sad that the kids don't know what their real Rock&roll heritage is. Yeah, top 40 dance stuff like Thriller is just classic Jam, sure, lol. This thread is really about young guys tryng to tell older guys what real artistic music is, it's a generation gap thread, that's what it is. Hmm, Thriller, or Allman brothers live at the Filmore, I'll take the Allman brothers every day of the week, to bad you kids don't know the difference between the two.

I grew up listening to zeppelin,Beatles, and at one point Paul Mccartney doing a duo with M.J....Beatles,Beatles,Beatles..ya ..I was there, but their music was just different, not better..next you'll say jimmy Hendrix sang better than M.J...haha..man JH sucked at singing, your just a jealous, bitter, smug old man that has no friends..now go beat it to some Jeff beck ya old geezer!!fuuck

[IM WHO YOU THINK]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

Jealousy can be such a strong emotion.

Michael Jackson gave up his whole life to make the music that touches so many people to this day. He never had a chance to live anything close to the normal life that we all take for granted. Money and possessions can be very overrated.

This is a thread in and of itself, but maybe normal life is over rated. Someone here mentioned his kids should now go get "normal" names. Who is to determine normal? Dude had access to every piece of gear ever, was adorned by millions and had an amusement park in his yard. So he missed the office barbeque.

The dude lived and died on a path toward making more music.

I'd say that's a pretty good life. I don't think he "gave up" his life. He lived it.

RIP

[Sounds Great]

Originally Posted by IM WHO YOU THINK

This is a thread in and of itself, but maybe normal life is over rated. Someone here mentioned his kids should now go get "normal" names. Who is to determine normal? Dude had access to every piece of gear ever, was adorned by millions and had an amusement park in his yard. So he missed the office barbeque.

The dude lived and died on a path toward making more music.

I'd say that's a pretty good life. I don't think he "gave up" his life. He lived it.

RIP

B.t.w. I was agreeing with your post.

Many famous people implode under the pressure. You take for granted walking into a Dairy Queen and enjoying an ice cream cone without all the fanfare. Don't underestimate the significance of that.

Yes, normal is very subjective, but I'm sure he didn't feel normal, being one of the most recognizable people on the planet, and all.

[IM WHO YOU THINK]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

B.t.w. I was agreeing with your post.

Many famous people implode under the pressure. You take for granted walking into a Dairy Queen and enjoying an ice cream cone without all the fanfare. Don't underestimate the significance of that.

Yes, normal is very subjective, but I'm sure he didn't feel normal, being one of the most recognizable people on the planet, and all.

lol I know you were agreeing. I was just going on a tangent about other threads. He may not be able to go to Dairy queen easily but He could send bubbles.

Seriously, I'm sure there was ice cream in his amusement park LOL. But I get what you're saying.

[Jax]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

What ARE you talking about? There are people of ALL ages that recognize talent and good music when they hear them. And who are you to be talking for all of us "older guys"?

This thread is amazing.

Don't worry about him. His mind was closed long before MJ passed. I know people of all ages who love MJ's music and performance.

[Jax]

Originally Posted by BacSpin

Rest in peace....

Thanks for that. Absolute magic!

[styphon]

Why don't we set up a charity in his name/honor, preferrable for one of his former causes?

Anyone?

[Sqye]

Originally Posted by Jax

Thanks for that. Absolute magic!

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PLUS ONE...

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[androne]

Michael never had the chance to grow up and had his childhood.
There it went wrong. He was pushed and pushed and even beaten up like crazy.

This tormented heart and soul, starting by the beating up by his own father at early youth and through the lonesome making fame of a world superstar, made him getting far away from a ´normal´world only surrounded by his troup of managers, songwriters, bodyguards etc etc.

His own father telling him he was buttugly all the time made him feel bad about himself, hard to look into a simple mirror... He said that himself.

No wonder he fled into his music, and no wonder he never felt understood!
And sure no wonder he got so into plastic surgery, he never could accept himself as he was.

So in a way he always remained a child in his thinking which explains his always somewhat naive comments on his being around other children or his strong belief in love and peace around the world.
Children see and say things simple and straightforward and dont understand and do with all the big fuss.

I believe he never did real wrong, he just really wanted and dreamt of a better world seeing all the troubles and misery around in society, the destruction of nature, etc which he shouted out in his music, in songs like Heal the World, Earth Song...

I believe he really wanted to care for people, much more than for his assets and money, as innocent and naive as the thinking of a child.
But he could not buy any love nor understanding, not as he needed it.

This against his incredible talents for singing and dancing which as he was physically was growing up could expand and perfectionize.
The MOONWALK he absolutely perfectionized, made it one of his main trademarks.

Myself I am disgusted by people who think he was an abuser of children, and more so by the people who were and still are getting rich of his misery.

I am not at all a big MJ fan, never went to a single concert. Just have a couple of CDs, thats it.

But I surely have the biggest respect for him.
And we ALL make some mistakes along the lines, dont we.
Espec if one is a long time depressed, lonely, misunderstood, and looked upon like some sort of god or wacko or whatever, you loose feel with the real world.

He gave and still is giving people shivers with the incredible perfomances, songs and productions he gave in his short lifespan.

May he rest in peace forever
Amen

[androne]

Originally Posted by living sounds

michael jackson and his talent combined with his obsessive perfectionism were the driving force behind those records. Having the best people in the business at his side sure helped, but there wouldn't be a "billie jean" if he himself hadn't worked for over a month just to come up with that perfect bass line. And quincy jones didn't even want this song to be on the album.

Watch the perfect liquidity of his dance moves, listen to the animated phrasing when he sings, watch this incredible stage presence when he performed live. Listen to all those great songs he wrote himself.

I haven't really been a fan since i was a kid, but this guy was an extraordinarily talented and really hard working artist. Compared to everyone out there today, but also compared to the legends from the time before him.

I listen to all kinds of music, and some of mj's songs are right up there with the best ever made imho. Perfect powerful, funky pop music.

right on

[androne]

Originally Posted by rappy

granted, he was commercial. However, you don't think "man in the mirror" or "we are the world" had at least something of a genuine, heart felt human emotion and altruism beneath a couple layers of, admittedly, cheesy synths? The gospel choir gives me chills sometimes.

-rappy

right on again

[Bender]

RIP Michael.

Thank you for the music.

[androne]

Originally Posted by deuc647

tube vid of how he did his harmonies.... I was floored to say the least.

Which VID was that ?

[viewingstuff]

Remember the time

[dan p]

Best pop artist ever for sure.
What about all the immediate people,Quincy Jones and all the writers who helped write those songs,and the record company stand to make skyrocketing royalties from worldwide frenzy buying.Now that Michael is gone,its truly an out of this world experience!

Dan P

[mars]

Michael jackson was truly groundbreaking. I remember when I heard "Beat It" for the first time: it was played unannounced on a radio program for new music here in the Caribbean. As a wanna-be synth programmer, the opening Synclavier notes spun my head around - "What the hell was that?" Then this beat kicked in and then this rock riff descended on top of it - "Huh? It's R&B with rock?" Then this voice came it - "Wait a minute! That sounds like Michael Jackson - but..." Then came the solo - "Now just hold on a #$@!damn minute! That had to be Van Halen! That sounded like Eddie Van Halen! Van Halen? On a Michael Jackson track?" It was like a musical earthquake.

Even for a child of the 60's who grew up on Hendrix and Sly, it sounded like a revolution. Remember, by the 80's the genie was back in the bottle and music had become really segregated. People seem to have forgotten that MTV at first refused to play Michael Jackson's videos.

R.I.P MJ -

[SergioS]

R.I.P., Michael. Hope you'll find peace after this frenetic life of yours on Earth.

Respect.

[Sqye]

Originally Posted by mars

Michael jackson was truly groundbreaking. I remember when I heard "Beat It" for the first time: it was played unannounced on a radio program for new music here in the Caribbean. As a wanna-be synth programmer, the opening Synclavier notes spun my head around - "What the hell was that?" Then this beat kicked in and then this rock riff descended on top of it - "Huh? It's R&B with rock?" Then this voice came it - "Wait a minute! That sounds like Michael Jackson - but..." Then came the solo - "Now just hold on a #$@!damn minute! That had to be Van Halen! That sounded like Eddie Van Halen! Van Halen? On a Michael Jackson track?" It was like a musical earthquake.

Even for a child of the 60's who grew up on Hendrix and Sly, it sounded like a revolution. Remember, by the 80's the genie was back in the bottle and music had become really segregated. People seem to have forgotten that MTV at first refused to play Michael Jackson's videos.

R.I.P MJ -

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good post, man!...

i think many of us felt the same way when we first heard beat it!...good memory!

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[Loud Noize Ent.]

Michael was a musical genius and innovator, no doubt about that and he will be greatly missed.

R.I.P MJ...

[Chrisbern]

R.I.P Michael - King of Pop for ever!

My tribute to Michael...

YouTube - P.Y.T. from Michael Jackson (LP. Thriller) performed by Christian Rössle "Chrisbern"

[bexarametric]

RIP

[shaft9000]

Originally Posted by mars

Michael jackson was truly groundbreaking. I remember when I heard "Beat It" for the first time: it was played unannounced on a radio program for new music here in the Caribbean. As a wanna-be synth programmer, the opening Synclavier notes spun my head around - "What the hell was that?" Then this beat kicked in and then this rock riff descended on top of it - "Huh? It's R&B with rock?" Then this voice came it - "Wait a minute! That sounds like Michael Jackson - but..." Then came the solo - "Now just hold on a #$@!damn minute! That had to be Van Halen! That sounded like Eddie Van Halen! Van Halen? On a Michael Jackson track?" It was like a musical earthquake.

Even for a child of the 60's who grew up on Hendrix and Sly, it sounded like a revolution. Remember, by the 80's the genie was back in the bottle and music had become really segregated. People seem to have forgotten that MTV at first refused to play Michael Jackson's videos.

R.I.P MJ -

PHUCK YES
- you said it perfectly, brother.
The weird skinny kid was indeed truly amazing.

[akai96]

Originally Posted by Jeffguitar

Maybe all the MJ lovers will lay in their beds dreaming of his great artistic TOP 40 DANCE MUSIC, and they'll BEAT IT, Just BEAT IT.

Notice all the tear jerkers were young when Thriller came out and they think that was great music. the older guys were listening to real music when they grew up, Zeplin, Stones, Beatles, Doors, Joplin, actual real, individual music, not top 40 dance garbage. You young kids cry and get all your tears out now, you'll be dreaming of him walking along doing the Billy Jeam video, and thinking it was the equivalent of the Stones and the Beatles, laughable, just laughable.

What this thread really shows is the great gulf between age groups on this forum. We older guys grew up listeing to the Who, the Beatels, Zep, the Stones, while you young kids think the Top 40 dance crap was real artsitic music. More power to you, cry your eyes out then, by all means. us older guys think that Thriller was the beginning of the end of real music, with real guitars and real drums, doing real rock&roll. How sad that anyone can put MJ on the same level as the Stones, the Beatles, Zeplin, Hendrix.... It's just sad that the kids don't know what their real Rock&roll heritage is. Yeah, top 40 dance stuff like Thriller is just classic Jam, sure, lol. This thread is really about young guys tryng to tell older guys what real artistic music is, it's a generation gap thread, that's what it is. Hmm, Thriller, or Allman brothers live at the Filmore, I'll take the Allman brothers every day of the week, to bad you kids don't know the difference between the two.

1. you are narrow minded
2. you think you can just speak for everyone else in your age group.
3. the groups you mention are great,but I listen to both and can admire both.
4. pop music was even more bland before mj made off the wall.
5. Quincy Jones does not make real music??? wow!

[turbo46]

I really sad, great artist, we miss you Michael R.I.P. :(

[Happy Musicfan]

It seems that the Carlos Santana thread had the same minority plague.... a puny minority who just can't (or won't) acknowledge that ***ENERGETIC UNIQUENESS of SOUND*** is the ultimate artistic pinnacle for musicians.... it's what musicians should strive for. I was never an MJ fan, but the truth is that Off The Wall and Thriller epitomize energy and uniqueness in the realm of sound. This same trait can be found with other great artists in radically different styles/genres.

[crufty]

Not to mention it is bad form/taste to speak ill of the recently departed. Being classy means if you can't say something nice, don't say anything.