American Idol

[AllAboutTone]

I felt the same way tonight Simon did, Lil Rounds is a really a great singer but she has done horrible for at least 3 weeks in a row when she started out as good as the top 3 on the show.....I just don't get it, Matt is in the same boat, he is slowly sliding away and has a great voice, however Noop did the best to date but has not chance at Idol. Kris was really bad tonight as well, this guy has been average to great.
Looks Like Allison, Danny and Adam are gonna be the last 3 standing when it gets to that week, I think all 3 well get a deal in the market easy....

Yes I watch the Idol with the wife.

[Lute]

These shows are a waste of time. The winners go on to do nothing. It's that 15 minutes of fame thing. Pointless, like soaps dfegad

[audiobob]

Originally Posted by Lute

These shows are a waste of time. The winners go on to do nothing. It's that 15 minutes of fame thing. Pointless, like soaps dfegad

Maybe it's a waste for you and that's cool. But my wife likes it and it's a good connect time for us to watch together. I don't lay awake at night sweating it out on who is going to win and what kind of career they're going to have, but the winners go on to do nothing? You may hate TV and not pay attention to current events in America but Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood and Fantasia have gone to have very successful careers. And I didn't even watch it then..

[Ken Walker]

Originally Posted by Lute

These shows are a waste of time. The winners go on to do nothing. It's that 15 minutes of fame thing. Pointless, like soaps dfegad

Yes, so true. Past winners like Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson haven't done a thing in music since they won.

[RTR]

Originally Posted by thecontinental

Maybe it's a waste for you and that's cool. But my wife likes it and it's a good connect time for us to watch together. I don't lay awake at night sweating it out on who is going to win and what kind of career they're going to have, but the winners go on to do nothing? You may hate TV and not pay attention to current events in America but Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood and Fantasia have gone to have very successful careers. And I didn't even watch it then..

+1...We don't watch that but me and my wife sit together every week after we put the kids to bed and watch HOUSE..Outside of really liking the show, It's something me and wife consider Our time!!

[Prime Tire]

Originally Posted by RTR

+1...We don't watch that but me and my wife sit together every week after we put the kids to bed and watch HOUSE..Outside of really liking the show, It's something me and wife consider Our time!!

+1 House

[ElMosca]

Originally Posted by AllAboutTone

I felt the same way tonight Simon did, Lil Rounds is a really a great singer but she has done horrible for at least 3 weeks in a row when she started out as good as the top 3 on the show.....I just don't get it, Matt is in the same boat, he is slowly sliding away and has a great voice, however Noop did the best to date but has not chance at Idol. Kris was really bad tonight as well, this guy has been average to great.
Looks Like Allison, Danny and Adam are gonna be the last 3 standing when it gets to that week, I think all 3 well get a deal in the market easy....

Yes I watch the Idol with the wife.

Like I said on the last AI thread I contributed too, my business goes up during AI season, so I watch whenever I get the chance. I'm not surprised that I have to make up excuses for this behavior, though.

I also had so much hope for Lil' Rounds. She tanked last night. Also, it's been obvious to me for the past few weeks that Adam will be the next AI.

Anoop was surprisingly good, but like you say, not a perfect fit for AI market demographics. And Danny may become the one they'll have to rescue, based on last night's...

All the others are forgettable, including Alison. All the praise she gets is always tempered by the judges pointing out that "she's really good for a 16-year-old".

[voicegenius]

I got too many other important things to do than to watch this year's AI.......


Like, for instance, slit my wrists...

[CISUM]

SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME ON ALL OF YOU.tutt

American Idol has brought some of the most talented, and most gifted singer/song writers we have in the world today.

How can you over look the sheer excellence of the vocal ability of Clay Aiken, or Chris Daughtry, or Jordan Sparks?

LMFAO
American Idol is the biggest waste of time anyone with two seconds of life remaining can watch or buy into. HAHAHAHAHA

[Prime Tire]

Originally Posted by voicegenius

I got too many other important things to do than to watch this year's AI.......


Like, for instance, slit my wrists...

You're my new hero.

I gotta admit I've been catching an episode every now and then. Anoop has a consistently wussy-as-hell-sounding voice, Adam straight up sounds like a chick, and pretty much everyone else just never does anything to make me remember them. Seems like the only ones who are ever on AI with any soul or balls in their voice are either the stereotypical "rocker guy" tools or Aretha rip-offs.

Where the hell did singers with mighty voices go? I heard Edwin Starr's "War" the other day for the first time in a while and was blown away by how badass that dude's voice is. Edwin Starr wouldn't have lasted two days on American Idol. Randy would be all "dude, that was a little pitchy," Paula's head would explode, and Simon would just say "I don't think your style is appropriate for this competition."

[Lute]

Originally Posted by kpaw

Yes, so true. Past winners like Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson haven't done a thing in music since they won.

Who?

[suedesound]

I've randomly seen the show and I'm not a fan, except for some of the horrible auditions.

Anyway, last night Taylor Hicks played at the club I work at, I don't know if he won or was just a contestant or whatever. Our club only holds about 250 and we were at about half capacity. I guess he's in Grease that's playing here so hopefully that's going well for him, but it seemed kinda sad to me. Most local "unknown" acts do better than that.

[ElMosca]

Originally Posted by Bryan Talbot

I will not waste my time with that crap. The successes of Misses Underwood and Clarkson notwithstanding, I'm not sure I like the "talent show" model at all. Although I guess Simon Cowell is no different from some know-it-all deep inside a big record company.

I don't know why people get so hoity-toity about AI. It's just entertainment. There is no great harm done. It's just a novel way to run A&R for a label, no?

Cheers,
++aldo

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by ElMosca

All the others are forgettable, including Alison. All the praise she gets is always tempered by the judges pointing out that "she's really good for a 16-year-old".

This girl is one of my fav 3. she may be 16, I don't care, she can sing her ass off and sounds like she is much older than 16, people laughed and joked about Jonny Lang and Kenny Wayne, wow they made a HUGE dent in the industry, age does not matter ? and how old were they when they hit the market HOT ?

[creegstor]

Originally Posted by ElMosca

I don't know why people get so hoity-toity about AI. It's just entertainment.

Music is not "just entertainment". Yes, it can function as entertainment but it's not its prime raison d'etre and when its reduced to merely being entertainment (as on AI) it loses all meaning.

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by creegstor

Music is not "just entertainment". Yes, it can function as entertainment but it's not its prime raison d'etre and when its reduced to merely being entertainment (as on AI) it loses all meaning.

I agree, weather its AI or etc, it sound be about the voice, tone, source etc, lights dancing and wardrobe should have nothing to do with it when judging.
Look at Dancing with the stars, do they ever comment on there voice, lighting ?....lmao.

[soundsundergroun]

the only AI I know is Adobe Illustrator.

That show is a false reality of the music industry.

[roxxon]

Where else can a very average, B-room club singer like David Cook get a recording deal!?
American I-dull rules!

[Riv]

My problem with American Idol and all this other contest/reality bullshit goes beyond a horrible distaste for what it's doing to music and musicians. It's for the harm it's doing to Acting and Actors.

A deal with a lot of people who are in their early 20's and want to have an acting career. (A pretty rough goal in the first place) Then they come in and all they can talk about was the last episode of American Idol or Next Top Model or whatever. Even they're blind to the fact that they're supporting programming that is against their best interest.

The more of these crap "reality" shows that suck up the programming hours, the less opportunities for actors to work in the medium.

These shows are a great way for the networks to make good money with very little overhead.

It's the exact same thing as a record company signing some shit artist for nothing, having them perform low budget, low quality songs, and not hiring or using any real musicians because they're too expensive.

Supporting it is just another way of making sure you'll never work,

[ElMosca]

Originally Posted by creegstor

Music is not "just entertainment". Yes, it can function as entertainment but it's not its prime raison d'etre and when its reduced to merely being entertainment (as on AI) it loses all meaning.

That's exactly what I mean. People take this thing too seriously. AI is not about music. It's about people's fantasies about being "discovered" by the Industry.

To take your pronouncement to its extreme: Food's primary raison d'etre is nourishment, and yet, people seek variety when cooking, don't always go to the same restaurants when they eat out, and some of us even watch the Food Network when we're not hungry.

[ElMosca]

Originally Posted by soundsundergroun

That show is a false reality of the music industry.

Really? I think it's a (sad) reflection on the real realities of today's music industry:

- They make you sign your soul away in a lopsided contract where they get all the money and you can only work for them.
- You make a substantial part of your income endorsing products instead of singing.
- They force you to appeal to a very predictable, safe demographic.
- You have to amass a considerable fan base before they decide to develop you into "product".

[Darwin James]

The group performances are so Disney theme park. I cringe when it's on, ughhh....

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by roxxon

Where else can a very average, B-room club singer like David Cook get a recording deal!?
American I-dull rules!

I agree last year was shit, I knew Cook or anyone else was not gonna be very huge, besides who am i to say anything, I don't listen to radio. If fact all the bands I grew up with like Sabbath, Deep Purple etc was not on the radio......word of mouth.

[N88]

I saw their little synopsis the other night when the show was cutting into the time slot supposedly belonging to Fringe. None of the singers impressed me in the least. The requirements of the process virtually assures plastic results.
The 'entertainment or art' concern is a critical one in my opinion.

[ElMosca]

Originally Posted by N88

I saw their little synopsis the other night when the show was cutting into the time slot supposedly belonging to Fringe. None of the singers impressed me in the least. The requirements of the process virtually assures plastic results.
The 'entertainment or art' concern is a critical one in my opinion.

I agree with all the posters' sentiments regarding the quality of the talent "discovered" by American Idol, but I still wonder why so many people in GS take this stuff so seriously.

It's the musical equivalent of potato chips. I may never touch the stuff, but FritoLay isn't going out of business anytime soon, because I'm in the minority.

It's clear to me that AI is not a Bel Canto contest, or even one based on talent. They're just running a focus group to look for the next "potato chip flavor." Even the voting process is flawed to begin with. People can vote multiple times and the show never reveals the actual tallies.

AI is strictly entertainment. It has nothing at all to do with art and has no pretensions about it.

That said, I'm gonna miss Lil Rounds...

Cheers,
++aldo

[N88]

Originally Posted by ElMosca

I agree with all the posters' sentiments regarding the quality of the talent "discovered" by American Idol, but I still wonder why so many people in GS take this stuff so seriously.

It's the musical equivalent of potato chips. I may never touch the stuff, but FritoLay isn't going out of business anytime soon, because I'm in the minority.

It's clear to me that AI is not a Bel Canto contest, or even one based on talent. They're just running a focus group to look for the next "potato chip flavor." Even the voting process is flawed to begin with. People can vote multiple times and the show never reveals the actual tallies.

AI is strictly entertainment. It has nothing at all to do with art and has no pretensions about it.

That said, I'm gonna miss Lil Rounds...

Cheers,
++aldo

Yeah. It's to the degree that I would probably just want the most appealing woman to win. No musical value considered.

The entertainment or art issue has long been [Schoenberg's Moses Und Aron] a concern for all creative work.