Jonas Brothers, Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus =CRAP

[MikeSV]

So I log onto GS today to find a bunch of late 20's/early 30 year olds arguing about Miley Cyrus, Talyor Swift, and the Jonas Brothers. Ok, so you don't like the music your kids are into? How is that any different than YOUR parents not being into the music you liked when you were young? Miley Cyrus writes most of her own lyrics and music, so does Taylor Swift. The Jonas Brothers started off as a local band, writing and performing their own music. Now, it doesn't fit my taste in music, but calling it crap is just a pointless argument. When I was young, I thought NWA, RunDMC etc were the shit. Were they "talented"? Compared to someone who can write their own music, play an instrument, stay in key, etc, no, they weren't, but I liked it anyway and still do. Anyways, you argument is pointless and redundant.

[Sounds Great]

Originally Posted by MikeSV

So I log onto GS today to find a bunch of late 20's/early 30 year olds arguing about Miley Cyrus, Talyor Swift, and the Jonas Brothers. Ok, so you don't like the music your kids are into? How is that any different than YOUR parents not being into the music you liked when you were young?

The difference is that 40 years later the music I listened to when I was a kid is still very popular. I wonder how Cyrus and Swift and the dfegad Jonas Brothers will fare 40 years from now?

[Dean Roddey]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

The difference is that 40 years later the music I listened to when I was a kid is still very popular. I wonder how Cyrus and Swift and the dfegad Jonas Brothers will fare 40 years from now?

That's not necessarily a reasonable comparison. That music was dragged along by a huge demographic bubble that had the financial means to force their culture heavily on subsequent generations, and which was born of a time of very heavy social unrest in this country where music was a key element of protest in the young. Today's music has none of those advantages, none of which are musical advantages.

[Sounds Great]

Right, keep making excuses for crap music.

Get back to me in 40 years.

[Lute]

Originally Posted by MikeSV

So I log onto GS today to find a bunch of late 20's/early 30 year olds arguing about Miley Cyrus, Talyor Swift, and the Jonas Brothers. Ok, so you don't like the music your kids are into? How is that any different than YOUR parents not being into the music you liked when you were young? Miley Cyrus writes most of her own lyrics and music, so does Taylor Swift. The Jonas Brothers started off as a local band, writing and performing their own music. Now, it doesn't fit my taste in music, but calling it crap is just a pointless argument. When I was young, I thought NWA, RunDMC etc were the shit. Were they "talented"? Compared to someone who can write their own music, play an instrument, stay in key, etc, no, they weren't, but I liked it anyway and still do. Anyways, you argument is pointless and redundant.

You should also be aware that the target age has dropped considerably since the 70s and 80s. Record companies are aiming straight at the toddlers. Those kids know very little about anything at that age and are therefore being exploited by a bunch of cvnts. Even stupid parents aren't stupid enough to buy the shite these ******s are peddling as music. My 7 year old niece thinks Smiley Virus is good FFS dfegad Mommy therefore has to go out and buy Hannah Montana shite. It's disgusting practice that needs to be stopped. Play live and prove you're a muso or fvck off.

[Umami Uni]

Originally Posted by Track 7

+1 Taylor Swift sold 64,000 units of her "Fearless" CD last week during a seven day period! How many did you sell? I sold 3... More power to them all!

-1000
just because thousands of people buy something doesn't mean that its good. it just proves the fact that there are thousands of ******s with piss poor taste in music & a lack of appreciation for art. SPARE ME your self righteous hooblah "for the people by the people" & your game of numbers.

All such acts are nothing but wallpaper!!!

[Dean Roddey]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

Right, keep making excuses for crap music.

Get back to me in 40 years.

I'm not making excuses for it. In forty years, the people who are young right now will be saying exactly the same thing you are saying about the music being listened to by young people then. The music that was playing when they had their formative experiences will be 'their music' for the rest of their lives. Just as the music that came before and after the music of your youth was to those who were young at that time.

Was Styx and Kansas and The Cars and Flock of Seagulls and U2 and Blackfoot and Foghat et al great music? I dunno, but there are people who grew up on that who still like it when they hear it because it's the music of their youth, and I still hear that stuff in the grocery store. I think that Joshua Tree is one of the greatest albums of all time (though it came almost a decade after my high school years), but there are plenty of kids (and not so kids) who think it's completely crap.

So this whole argument is just meaningless because it's just a bunch of people imposing their standards on others who don't share them. I DO share them, but I'm not so conceited as to think that those who don't like what I like are too stupid to realize that they are listening to crap.

[Dean Roddey]

Originally Posted by Mr_headphones

-1000
just because thousands of people buy something doesn't mean that its good. it just proves the fact that there are thousands of ******s with piss poor taste in music & a lack of appreciation for art. SPARE ME your self righteous hooblah "for the people by the people" & your game of numbers.

Which is exactly what people our age were saying about Elvis and Buddy Holly and The Everly Bros and so forth, when they first appeared. The radical become the status quo and spend the rest of their lives complaining. And what people ten years younger than us said about rap, ad infinitum.

[uncle duncan]

Originally Posted by pleasureohm

It's not so much that the songs are good or bad, mostly bad, but it's the sound of their voices. It's that whiny, auto-tuned, over-enunciated, teenage voice. It's irritates the hell out of me. 9Why must everyone sound like Avril Lavigne?

That's the big difference I see between the Jonas Brothers and Taylor Swift. At least TS sounds like she's coming from a sincere place, which makes her out-of-tune singing less offensive. I saw her sing the Star Spangled Banner when she was still an up-and-coming 16 year-old, and I was impressed with the honesty of her presentation.

The Jonas Brothers, on the other hand, just seem so utterly fake, it's as if every move is scripted after hours of work in front of a mirror. Although I appreciate the fact that the Jonas Brother's money gets spread around the rest of the industry, I'm afraid if I was asked to work on one of their projects, I'd have to decline - or demand heroin as a condition of employment.

[Sounds Great]

Jonas Brothers are just a BAD Disney production. Even my daughters (oldest 14) think they suck and laugh at them playing at award shows. They also say most people they know think they suck. But they are Disney staples. Oh boy. dfegad

[Dean Roddey]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

Jonas Brothers are just a BAD Disney production. Even my daughters (oldest 14) think they suck and laugh at them playing at award shows. They also say most people they know think they suck. But they are Disney staples. Oh boy. dfegad

I'm not specifically standing up fro The Jonas Brothers, just rejecting the general thesis that all music currently is horrible and kids are too stupid to realize that the only great music ever made was in the 60s or 70s.

[Dean Roddey]

Originally Posted by uncle duncan

The Jonas Brothers, on the other hand, just seem so utterly fake, it's as if every move is scripted after hours of work in front of a mirror.

Well, to be fair, I don't think that the Tempations or Four Tops were making up those moves on the fly either. Their acts were highly scripted.

[Bender888]

Originally Posted by Track 7

+1 Taylor Swift sold 64,000 units of her "Fearless" CD last week during a seven day period! How many did you sell? I sold 3... More power to them all!

Eerm, well. I could be wrong about this but....

In Australia we have buying groups such as Sanity and In2Music.
They buy said amount of units and then paint the walls in their stores with more copies of one single than the population of idiots in the town can buy twice.
These count as sales in the whole count, even though they may only sell twenty copies at full price and the rest will be seen in the two dollar bin next season. What doesn't sell here ends up in Cambodia... where the average kid is just happy to have a shiny spinning disc.

Thats why Australian Idol stars always end up at the top of the charts.. nobody really buys that shit.

C'mon... do you? fuuck

[toneguru]

Every decade had its crap music...

The difference lately is:

Image is more of the equation.

Pro Tools has eliminated much of the live band making music and replaced it with the engineer manipulating it.

Clear Channel calls too many shots.

Of course most slutz know this. Anyway, there are a lot of so called cool acts that actually sound like crap too.

Its okay tho, put on a little Mozart or Bill Evans or Curtis Mayfield and the soul is quickly replenished.

[uncle duncan]

Originally Posted by Dean Roddey

Well, to be fair, I don't think that the Tempations or Four Tops were making up those moves on the fly either. Their acts were highly scripted.

Choreographed would be a better word. My sense with the Jonas Brothers is that they're posing - trying to look sexy - which is totally different from choreographed dance steps. Some people have natural charisma, or stage presence, or whatever you want to call it. Seeing the Jonas Brothers trying to affect stage presence just made my skin crawl.

[work2do]

Originally Posted by Dean Roddey

just rejecting the general thesis that all music currently is horrible and kids are too stupid to realize that the only great music ever made was in the 60s or 70s.

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Many old men on here bitchin about teen music. wow! My uncle thinks r&b ended around 1978. Nothing after that is any good to him.

Many of you are just the old uncle now!

[narcoman]

Originally Posted by konkaos

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Many old men on here bitchin about teen music. wow! My uncle thinks r&b ended around 1978. Nothing after that is any good to him.

Many of you are just the old uncle now!

There are loads of good teen acts around. Just the Disney sponsored ones ain't them ...... Even stuff like Tynchy Strider or {lord forgive me for saying this} Katy Perry is a lot better. The kids know it too...... Oh - and those "kid" acts are written for, managed by and generally manipulated BY a buch of 40 year olds. THAT is my general refusal to get on board with that tosh.

[Tapeworm]

Originally Posted by spunkadellic

when you make music (or a movie) that makes more money than the jonah bros or taylor swift or banana montana then you opinions might matter

I remember Roger Waters saying that if you base an albums merit on sales, it makes Grease a better album than Graceland.

[Jarp2600]

Just found this one;

[Umami Uni]

Originally Posted by Dean Roddey

Which is exactly what people our age were saying about Elvis and Buddy Holly and The Everly Bros and so forth, when they first appeared. The radical become the status quo and spend the rest of their lives complaining. And what people ten years younger than us said about rap, ad infinitum.

Wait....so are you telling me & that The Jonas Brothers & Taylor swift are comparable to ELVIS or Buddy Holly?!?!

You've got to be kidding.....

[Umami Uni]

Originally Posted by Bender888

Eerm, well. I could be wrong about this but....

nobody really buys that shit.

C'mon... do you? fuuck

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So glad to see that Bender is a gearslut!!!!

[Dean Roddey]

Originally Posted by Mr_headphones

Wait....so are you telling me & that The Jonas Brothers & Taylor swift are comparable to ELVIS or Buddy Holly?!?!

You've got to be kidding.....

YOu obviously missed something in translation.

[BlackBackDrop]

Originally Posted by Lute

You should also be aware that the target age has dropped considerably since the 70s and 80s. Record companies are aiming straight at the toddlers. Those kids know very little about anything at that age and are therefore being exploited by a bunch of cvnts. Even stupid parents aren't stupid enough to buy the shite these ******s are peddling as music. My 7 year old niece thinks Smiley Virus is good FFS dfegad Mommy therefore has to go out and buy Hannah Montana shite. It's disgusting practice that needs to be stopped. Play live and prove you're a muso or fvck off.

I am a dad and I dont feel my kids are been explotied. They enjoy the TV show HMT for the comedy and music, once its over they move on, they dont own any DVDs or CDs, they have never asked for them, sure my daugher has been given gifts but to me thats all plastic poop! #

But yeah, the TV show its a fantastic way to make lots of money for the Disney empire, and lets be honest they have been doing that since the 60s.

[Bender888]

I just saw a picture of these alleged "jonas Brothers" things for the first time.


No wonder I invented the suicide booth.


Yes Bender is amongst you

[scud133]

Even she doesn't like the music she sings (skip to 2:50):

[Dean Roddey]

Completely OT, but I just stumbled across this video:

YouTube - Kerry Ellis - Defying Gravity - Wicked in Rock

Talk about a let down. In the end it's just a very run of the mill pop song. But the intro is like Tales of Mystery and Imagination done by a metal band or something. If they'd had the balls to take it forward on that front that would have been something seriously interesting. But it's just bizzare to hear something like that then morph into roughly a modern day female version of Rick Springfield.

[Harry Hughes]

I've still yet to hear any Jonas Brothers nor Miley.
I guess I should be grateful

[andrewenson]

Originally Posted by Jeff Juliano

This shit is just terrible! I decided to start this thread after seeing Taylor Swift on SNL last night. Just HORRIBLE. Besides 9-12 year old girls, Who is buying this crap.

NARAS should be fined and or lose credible sponsors for putting Stevie Wonder and the Jonas Brothers on the same stage.

Ultimately, I wish they would create a game for Xbox 360 where you hunt for Jonas Brothers...

i stopped listening to the jonas brothers after the little one hit puberty. i listened to the jonas brothers a lot before they got signed. i even listened to a little bit of their gospel stuff back in the day. i was probably around... 8th grade? freshman?

i still like taylor swift :D

miley cyrus... meh >>"
i'm not gonna lie. i dont like her music but party in the usa really is a good song for a party :P

[work2do]

Originally Posted by narcoman

Oh - and those "kid" acts are written for, managed by and generally manipulated BY a buch of 40 year olds.

exactly! but they are not hung up on what was 20, 40, 60 years ago. They are making music and making $ and not marketing to old folks that are hung up on music from 20, 40, 60 years ago.

Just because some old guy says music today sucks doesn't make it true. My grandfather used to say, if it wasn't Stax or Motown it was garbage. Is that true? Or maybe he just couldn't relate to others of that era and beyond.