A sequencer is not a DAW.

[evermuse]

Over the last year or two, I've noticed more and more people on the net referring to sequencer and editing apps as DAWS. tutt Even developers are starting to advertise their sequencers as a "DAW" This is simply an informal statement stating that your only referring to a part of a DAW, as a DAW is the entire system, hardware and most often several applications as a whole.

Pro tools is not a DAW
Cubase is not a DAW
Sonar is not a DAW
Reaper is not a DAW
Ntrack is not a DAW

These are sequencers

You have been advised. Please stop this nonsense.

[MikeTSH]

This seems like a bit of a troll post, because, to be honest, their termonology is frequently interchanged, so DAW is regularly seen as a sequencer. While I'm aware it isn't, it's nothing to really break a sweat over.

[evermuse]

haha well it's more of a rant. That's why I put it in the moan zone here. Looking more for people to share my rant then an argument. There is no argument as I'm right
The terms over the last few years are being interchanged. My point is that they never use to be. I think there is good reason to understand the difference. Sonar and reaper running on the same DAW, using the same mics, pres, AD/DA, and VST will track the same data and feed it out just the same... Now my Sonar DAW and another persons Sonar DAW, set up to thier own liking, will make different recordings based on each of our choices in AD/DA hardware, our choice in DSP and so on... the distiction seems clear to me. I just felt like ranting about the misuse of the term DAW when refering to a sequencer. I haven't seen much of the oposite, but yea that also would be incorrect... I think it's confusing the kids. haha

[GGreen]

Stand up.

Walk to that thing called a door.

Open it.

Pass through.

This is called the outside world and I think you should be spending more time in it rather than worrying about whether people say DAW or Sequencer.

YMMV.

Gareth

[organsymphony]

Originally Posted by gfx

Stand up.

Walk to that thing called a door.

Open it.

Pass through.

This is called the outside world and I think you should be spending more time in it rather than worrying about whether people say DAW or Sequencer.

YMMV.

Gareth

QFT

[evermuse]

Originally Posted by gfx

Stand up.

Walk to that thing called a door.

Open it.

Pass through.

This is called the outside world and I think you should be spending more time in it rather than worrying about whether people say DAW or Sequencer.

YMMV.

Gareth

thanks.... now I can sleep at night

[Duardo]

By your argument, I would say that the programs you mention aren't sequencers either. A sequencer is something like a Yamaha QY700, or an Akai MPC box, or something build into a Motif...Sonar isn't a sequencer, it's sequencing software. It could also be considered DAW software, which I've heard it (and the others) referred to.

I'd say that referring to a Sonar (or Pro Tools, or Cubase, etc) system as a DAW would be correct.

I'd also say it doesn't matter, and if that's the biggest issue you have to worry about, things must be going pretty well for you.

[narcoman]

Originally Posted by evermuse

Over the last year or two, I've noticed more and more people on the net referring to sequencer and editing apps as DAWS. tutt Even developers are starting to advertise their sequencers as a "DAW" This is simply an informal statement stating that your only referring to a part of a DAW, as a DAW is the entire system, hardware and most often several applications as a whole.

Pro tools is not a DAW
Cubase is not a DAW
Sonar is not a DAW
Reaper is not a DAW
Ntrack is not a DAW

These are sequencers

You have been advised. Please stop this nonsense.

well....
The term was coined to describe Protools in '95.

[evermuse]

Originally Posted by Duardo

I'd also say it doesn't matter, and if that's the biggest issue you have to worry about, things must be going pretty well for you.

Don't I wish... Not that I would try and talk about any of my real problems with random internet peeps... ****ing tough crowd... fuk!

corncomb anus - please go sell something then die

[henryrobinett]

Well as far as I know and as far as I'm concerned they are all Digital Audio Workstations. Those three words taken together describe and define well what it is. A sequencer is less well defined. It doesn't necessarily pertain to audio at all, as the first sequencers were midi, AFAIK.

DAWs contain a sequencer and audio editing, recording audio with transport controls. There's a screen for editing, both audio and midi, cut, paste, loop, special effects, plugins, reverb with a mixing board. It contains multiple analog, digital, midi I/Os and routing possibilities. Also most have a notation engine.

You can have software or hardware DAWs.

What am I missing?

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by evermuse

Over the last year or two, I've noticed more and more people on the net referring to sequencer and editing apps as DAWS. tutt Even developers are starting to advertise their sequencers as a "DAW" This is simply an informal statement stating that your only referring to a part of a DAW, as a DAW is the entire system, hardware and most often several applications as a whole.

Pro tools is not a DAW
Cubase is not a DAW
Sonar is not a DAW
Reaper is not a DAW
Ntrack is not a DAW

These are sequencers

You have been advised. Please stop this nonsense.

So if I use Pro Tools...and don't ever move anything, or edit anything - in fact, if I just use it as a digital tape machine...how can it be a sequencer? I'm not sequencing anything!

I'd humbly suggest you're totally misguided. PT is the software part of a DAW. The mac/pc and interface are the hardware side of the DAW. Together they make the DAW. When someone says "PT is my DAW" I think they generally mean they have the computer to run it on as well, not just the software in a box.

Again - maybe you should get out more.