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The amount of BS on here is unreal.

Seriously. Did all the colleges let out and suddenly theres an influx of bs "engineers and producers" on here? I have read a couple threads just today and it makes me laugh. Sorry, this is just a rant, but theres a lot of crap on here lately with people making ridiculous claims to fame and not being able to back anything up. In the words of anyone immortal...

I call bullshit.



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Funny? I was thinking the same thing about you.........

Well not really I've never even read any of your posts. I'm just kidding around. My claim to fame is I met
William Hung when he was on his Mall tour. And that was about as cool as techno music.

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You're not really calling BS until you mention specific people/posts...
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I totally agree; in fact Paul, Ringo and I were talking about this very thing last night.
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I thought the whole music industry was b.s....then I found gearsluts.
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Hehe. Nice.

Keep in mind it's "Gearslutz" and not "Legit Audio Engineerz".

If it were, there'd be far less traffic. There are very vocal people with high post counts who do something totally else with their days... And may or may not have any clue what they're talking about. And don't be fooled: Many of the guys with the most "toys" are just weekenders with lucrative dayjobs. Many of the pros just have select "tools".

Course, there are a sh*t ton of pros who can't hear worth a damn anyway. (I probably fit into this last category... )
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Well not to get on to high a horse...but really how much knowledge do ya need for hip-hop/ambient and what-not?

Besides everyone has an opinion or two, heck I usually end up arguing with myself...

...now if it were a private forum that I paid to be on...well then I might have an issue...
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Did all the colleges let out and suddenly theres an influx of bs "engineers and producers" on here?
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In its core this forum is obviously not 'engineering related only' or 'producing only'.
GAS is main force behind healthy part of members with addition of many very clever advices and suggestion from excellent engineers and producers.
I don't think it is completelly pro forum and there are majority of gear and music lovers who approach gears and music production techniques seriously.
If big, real pros would be only who participate here, I could imagine how boring this place would become in days, also, if gears would not be so widelly spread among non pros and hobbists, many gear makers would close their businesses soon.
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Seriously. Did all the colleges let out and suddenly theres an influx of bs "engineers and producers" on here? I have read a couple threads just today and it makes me laugh. Sorry, this is just a rant, but theres a lot of crap on here lately with people making ridiculous claims to fame and not being able to back anything up. In the words of anyone immortal...

I call bullshit.



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I felt the need to defend myself here...

I'm one of those dayjobbers with high post counts...

So what? I've got a handful of clients that make me work 80 hours a week. I'm just not financially able to switch to full time until I've replaced my dayjob's salary...

When you're married, you gotta make sure the Mrs. is happy too. But based on the hours I'm booking lately, the transition is almost over...

I guess I'm not lucky enough to be one of those trust fund babies that gets to go intern for 6 years somewhere and then finally get to make $10/hr as a runner for another 5 while mommy and daddy pay my bills. My rent is due on the first of every month. But in the meantime, I've aquired pretty much all the gear I'm going to want, have set up a commercial space and am in the middle of no less than 5 different projects.

I, having a dayjob, sir, are far busier than many of those home studios with audio alone.
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I felt the need to defend myself here...

I'm one of those dayjobbers with high post counts...

So what? I've got a handful of clients that make me work 80 hours a week. I'm just not financially able to switch to full time until I've replaced my dayjob's salary...

When you're married, you gotta make sure the Mrs. is happy too. But based on the hours I'm booking lately, the transition is almost over...

I guess I'm not lucky enough to be one of those trust fund babies that gets to go intern for 6 years somewhere and then finally get to make $10/hr as a runner for another 5 while mommy and daddy pay my bills. My rent is due on the first of every month. But in the meantime, I've aquired pretty much all the gear I'm going to want, have set up a commercial space and am in the middle of no less than 5 different projects.

I, having a dayjob, sir, are far busier than many of those home studios with audio alone.
VERY TRUE!!

I know some "weekenders" that spend a lot of time making kick ass records, while some "full-timers" spend the week with little kid garage bands and radio commercials to make rent.
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Hehe. Nice.

Keep in mind it's "Gearslutz" and not "Legit Audio Engineerz".

If it were, there'd be far less traffic.
There are very vocal people with high post counts who do something totally else with their days... And may or may not have any clue what they're talking about. And don't be fooled: Many of the guys with the most "toys" are just weekenders with lucrative dayjobs. Many of the pros just have select "tools".

Course, there are a sh*t ton of pros who can't hear worth a damn anyway. (I probably fit into this last category... )
Me.

I did work in commercial studios and I did try running a project studio. And I may have a clue what I'm talking about. But I do work a different day job.

Still, music (and recording it) is my avocation, I did scores of projects back in the day [nothing all that special; a bunch of indie releases and more demos -- a couple of which that got folks picked up for majors or major/feeders] and have done many hundreds of recordings for myself.

But I discovered I don't have what it takes to work on others' music day in and day out and deliver my best. It might have been in me, once. But not anymore. So I leave that to you guys who are cut out to be pros.

On the up side, while I like to shoot off my mouth, I also very much like to not be proven wrong... so I try to be accurate when I do my mouth-off-shooting...

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Sorry, this is just a rant, but theres a lot of crap on here lately with people making ridiculous claims to fame and not being able to back anything up.
And likewise there is just as much crap about the importance high-end pres and converters and such in making music. "Stacking theory", "converter accuracy",
"hardware beats software" etc. are all WAY overblown.

Too many salesmen in the crowd and too many suckers willing to accept their marketing bullshit.

But if you accept the bullshit for what it is... then it's all in good fun I guess...

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I was just pondering this too - I think it's because this forum is open to people with gearlust and not necessarily just pros. In fact I am sometimes astonished at how plain bad some people's music is in proportion to how loud they are, but you get that no matter where you go. I try not to judge, we're all on a sliding scale somewhere and I have learned a ton about mixing just from sifting thru the chaff here, it's been invaluable and I try to lower the noise ratio too and only talk about my experiences. It's the novice or the egomaniac (or the salesmen) that tries to hard sell the truth anywhere. And I have definitely settled into an equilibrium where my gear matches my skills, as I have a good dayjob to buy nice stuff. But I have been tracking improvement on my own part and I hope some of the great stuff I learned here will be passed off to others in the position I was in a few years ago...
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You're not really calling BS until you mention specific people/posts...
OK, I'll start: see my signature
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there is static everywhere.

you just have to tune it out.

i do agree that often times this board seems overrun with sophmoric conjecture.

i still find enough good here to stop by now and then.

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I'm just gonna make a mindless post without even reading one other post in this thread cause you're all full of shit!!!!!!!!
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Where does it say you have to be a pro to join this board?
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Aparently nowhere since you're here...

I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Seriously though, I'm busier than half of my full-time engineer friends. And I can make rent each month and have enough cash to fund my gear habbit...
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Seriously though, I'm busier than half of my full-time engineer friends. And I can make rent each month and have enough cash to fund my gear habbit...
It's called a regular job
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So you meet Dumbasses everywhere whoopdeedoo just crack open a nice cold beer and flip them off digitally.........Analog is still the better way to do it though, nothing beats actually flipping off the person, well in person.
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[QUOTE=Chaellus;3661935]So you meet Dumbasses everywhere [QUOTE]

That says it all
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lol....I'd mention dylansmale, but he's been a lot less obnoxious of late, so that's a bit harsh really!

the thing that gets me the most is people recommending things they've never used - when someone says "what should I get x or y" just because you have y, doesn't mean it's right for them. By all means let them know your experience with y but qualify that with the admission you've never used x.

the other bugbear for me is people recommending things nothing to do with the product! "how do I do this in PT"? "oh, use reaper"....thanks, that's a great help.

I know I've got a big mouth, but I never offer an opinion on things I've not experienced.
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I thought the whole music industry was b.s....then I found gearsluts.
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lol....and you realized....what, exactly?.....

....that you were RIGHT?...lol

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