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Old 21st February 2005, 01:45 PM   #1
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Hunter S. Thompson

****.

I just found out that Hunter S. Thompson blew his brains out. That's so Hemingway. I sure hope it turns out to be for a good reason, such as terminal cancer or back taxes.

****. He had only just been remarried a few months. I know marriage is bad for you, but I didn't realize the ill effects took hold so quickly.

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Old 21st February 2005, 03:19 PM   #2
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That TOTALLY sucks....
I too hope it was to cheat death somehow-
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That TOTALLY sucks....
I too hope it was to cheat death somehow-

I dont see how killing yourself cheats death......?
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Old 21st February 2005, 07:25 PM   #5
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We like Hunter and were just hopeing it was a defiant act..

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We like Hunter and were just hopeing it was a defiant act..

wasnt everything he has done defiant?

mr. raul, i hope this message receives you well. go give heaven some hell.
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I heard first thing this morning. It's really sad. Just last night I finished reading "Fear and Loathing..." for about the fiftieth time. He wass such a great writer. He will be missed.
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I dont see how killing yourself cheats death......?
Well, let me explain it to you then- If you know your going to die from a disease anyway and you kill yourself you've cheated death. Got it?
I'm saying I hope that was the case.
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That sucks,I thought he'd outlive us all!
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In the late 80s/early 90s I used to sit at the bar at the Dovre club, a smelly dive bar in San Francisco's mission district, listening to him and his pal Warren Hinckle (whose daughters I went to highschool with) ranting and raving. It was greatly amusing.

"Fear and Loathing" was the first book I couldn't put down till I finished it.

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Re: Hunter S. Thompson

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I sure hope it turns out to be for a good reason, such as terminal cancer or back taxes.
Back taxes? You find it acceptable to blow one's brains out over money?



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He had only just been remarried a few months. I know marriage is bad for you, but I didn't realize the ill effects took hold so quickly.
Well, it does rather depend on the wife.
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I sure hope it turns out to be for a good reason, such as terminal cancer or back taxes.
Oh, if they told me I had terminal cancer, I'd stick around just to prove them wrong.
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Shit... thats bummed me out for today.

I still remember reading 'Fear...' for the first time on the bus to school when i was 16. People could'nt understand why i was laughing like a fool on nitrous bulbs it was so unbeleivably funny and outa control. His wit, style and deft sense of macabre humour will live on for generations to come.

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Apparently you all revere Hunter.

Here is a guy who took LSD (among other things) while on assignment for Rolling Stone, wrote about his experinces under the influence, inspired the term "Gonzo Journalism" which excused his illegal and illicit bevavior (admittedly fun while it lasted, and a great read to be sure - but try getting away with it today) and now he blows his brains out (an extremely selfish act, to those he left behind) and you're comparing him to Hemmingway?!?!?

Thompson is no hero. If he *was* terminally ill, there are other ways to deal with it. He's got kids, a new wife, millions of fans, a successful career, his best-known book was made into a movie (twice!) - like Cobain before him, I would venture a guess that it was manic depression.

Which still doesn't excuse it.
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Thompson is no hero. If he *was* terminally ill, there are other ways to deal with it.
Hummm... well how would you have him deal with it then??

Not flaming you or anything but I have a large problem when healthy people sitting on their "Morality Throne" pass judgment on someone with a painful illness (not sure that was the case here but you assumed it could be so I am running with it).

Exactly who are you to declare what excuse is acceptable in a man's life and what is not??

You were not in his shoes or Cobain's, how do you know what they felt??? You can never be sure that if you were in the same situation you would not choose the same path, you can't know because you have not been presented with that.

My father has cancer, has been battling it for 15 years. He has finally given up because it is just too painful and I accept that (it still hurts but it is his decision not mine). You want to make him change his mind because you think he should stick it out like a man do ya??

I have one thing in this world that I truly own, that is ME, my body and I can damn well do with it what I want and you don't have a right to pass judgment on my decisions.

Is it the right thing to do?? For me, no, for you obviously no, but for Hunter it was, that is why he did it after all.

Is he a "hero??" Not in my eyes, I did like a few of his books but he did not save the world or anything, BUT this does not mean I can pass judgment on his decisions. He didn't hurt anyone else physically when he took his life. Yes his family will be hurt emotionally and they will have to deal with the emotional part but the fact that they are sad about his passing is their decision.
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Apparently you all revere Hunter....
Apparently you don't.

I'd add to that, but it would'nt be polite.

But thanks for sharing.
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Here is a guy who took LSD (among other things) while on assignment for Rolling Stone, wrote about his experinces under the influence, inspired the term "Gonzo Journalism" which excused his illegal and illicit bevavior (admittedly fun while it lasted, and a great read to be sure - but try getting away with it today) and now he blows his brains out (an extremely selfish act, to those he left behind) and you're comparing him to Hemmingway?!?!?
Good point. Hemmingway would never blow his brains out or drink to excess.

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What I'm saying is it doesn't make him a hero, nor Hemmingway nor Cobain.

As for the terminal illness issues, of course that get's dicey - and emotional. Frank Zappa was terminally ill, he worked up until about 2 weeks before his death. Told his close friends that he had lots of music in his head, he had to get it out. He made a round of phone calls to all the musicians he had worked with over the years, told at least one of them to "keep the humor in the music".

Was that more heroic then blowing his brains out? Well, it certainly made a more positive impact on those around him to do it his way.

If a terminal illness is excrucatingly painful, there are calmer, less violent ways to take ones self out - Hunter was fond of chemicals, certainly an over-abundance of morphine would ease ones exit from the planet, and would be a lot easier on the family, not to mention the police, medical and forensics people who have to pick up the pieces, literally and figuratively.

With me it's not a moral issue, but a practical one. And I find it interesting who we as a society choose to venerate.
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Apparently you all revere Hunter.

Here is a guy who took LSD (among other things) while on assignment for Rolling Stone, wrote about his experinces under the influence, inspired the term "Gonzo Journalism" which excused his illegal and illicit bevavior (admittedly fun while it lasted, and a great read to be sure - but try getting away with it today) and now he blows his brains out (an extremely selfish act, to those he left behind) and you're comparing him to Hemmingway?!?!?

Thompson is no hero. If he *was* terminally ill, there are other ways to deal with it. He's got kids, a new wife, millions of fans, a successful career, his best-known book was made into a movie (twice!) - like Cobain before him, I would venture a guess that it was manic depression.

Which still doesn't excuse it.
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hunter ...whatever. i have to agree with the above statement - no matter how genius his art may have been. it absolutely amazes me what a writer will do to add one final bit of folklore in the way they end their life...maybe to keep up with the hemmingways etc.
also , if you have a wife and kids , i dont think you really can do whatever you damn well please with your body and life especially when it affects others who depend on you and your presence in this world. truley selfish. also truely scaring to the people you leave behind. man , that must be an aweful mess to clean up.

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hunter ...whatever. i have to agree with the above statement - no matter how genius his art may have been. it absolutely amazes me what a writer will do to add one final bit of folklore in the way they end their life...maybe to keep up with the hemmingways etc.
also , if you have a wife and kids , i dont think you really can do whatever you damn well please with your body and life especially when it affects others who depend on you and your presence in this world. truley selfish. also truely scaring to the people you leave behind. man , that must be an aweful mess to clean up.

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So why don't you go and volunteer to help clean up.

You didn't like the way he left this earth.

I don't care.

As the saying goes, if you don't have anything positive to add, zip it.
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As the saying goes, if you don't have anything positive to add, zip it.
Whaat?!?

If you removed all the non-positive posts from this newsgroup, it would be half-empty.

If this was meant to be a tribute thread to Hunter, designed only for glowing praise and feel-good insights, then I apologize for rude behaivior in expressing my contrary opinion. I assumed, as it was posted in the "Moan Zone", that a free exchange of comments, pro or con, good or bad, was acceptable.
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its his life, its his choice... if someone wants to blow their brains out for WHATEVER reason, its their decision. jeez...

and it certainly doesnt take away from what he did in life, he lived it larger than most people i know. that makes him a hero to me... if you dont like the way he lived his life, thats your deal.
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Whaat?!?

If you removed all the non-positive posts from this newsgroup, it would be half-empty.
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Here is a guy who took LSD (among other things) while on assignment for Rolling Stone, wrote about his experinces under the influence, inspired the term "Gonzo Journalism" which excused his illegal and illicit bevavior (admittedly fun while it lasted, and a great read to be sure - but try getting away with it today) and now he blows his brains out (an extremely selfish act, to those he left behind) and you're comparing him to Hemmingway?!?!?
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yes, it is my deal.

He lived his life in a manner that was unique and original, and he touched many lifes in doing so. I have no beef with that, I just don't consider it heroic.

As to his manner of death, "it's their decision. jeez" and "his life, his choice" - doesn't say much for the people he left behind.

We all have choices every day - doesn't make all of them the right choices. I find it incredulous that people can be so flippant about it.
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So why don't you go and volunteer to help clean up.

You didn't like the way he left this earth.

I don't care.

As the saying goes, if you don't have anything positive to add, zip it.
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wouldn't you agree its safe to say none of his family or friends really liked the way hunter left this earth as well????? or is that a bit of a stretch for you smartass?

can we please just separate the man from the mans work? can we speak intelligently here for just a moment ?

thank you so BLOODY much !!! ( word play intended )

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grips about the people left behind is weak imo... it places more importance on them rather than the person involved and their own choices.

you can call it a selfish act, but life is selfish... even when you are "helping" others, there is selfish motivation behind it, conciously or subconciously.


and while im at it, you seem critical of the way he lived his life and how he died.... its a no-win situation for him to you anyway.

and there is a difference between a hero and being heroic.
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