Faux Tools?

[hakkamacher]

I do little demo projects on the side, so I'm a bit of a dillettante, but I once ran an 1/2" analog 16 track place for a few years... so I'm not a rank newbie, but man... I've got a "new" problem I keep running into.

See, I prefer tracking with Cool Edit. It's what I've always used, I can set it up essentially instantly and get going immediately.

The problem is - I'm getting people who somehow insist, or infer that Pro Tools, even just tracking with it, is somehow superior to CEP, or anything else for that matter.

Never mind my own experience and results that BROUGHT THEM TO ME IN THE FIRST PLACE - it's like once they see something other than PRO TOOLS on my CRT there's like automatically the results are going to be stifled somehow.


SO, what I'm thinking is.... just a thought....:

Some little app that looks like a PT screen, that will show a level meter and maybe some tracks scrolling across the screen - so I can run CEP underneath and avoid the whole issue. I could load up PT LE or something, but I don't want to waste system resources doing that.


"What's that there....?"

"Pro Tools"

"oh, ok."

You know.....?

Signed,
Rubens Hakkamacher, inventor Faux Tools Interface systems

[Roland]

Usually the people that will talk like that to you wouldn't know what pro tools looked like if they saw it. I did read a post of someone that didn't have pro tools but constantly got asked the same question. His response was to say that it was like pro tools (I guess to some degree all DAW's are) and he rekoned that usually was enough to keep them quiet. Of course there are sessions where pro tools is a requisite, those where the project was tracked with it and those where the requirements are specific to it, maybe these days this is less the situation than it used to be.

Regards



Roland

[ttauri]

SO, what I'm thinking is.... just a thought....:

Some little app that looks like a PT screen, that will show a level meter and maybe some tracks scrolling across the screen - so I can run CEP underneath and avoid the whole issue.

Where's the Funklogic software division when you need it?

Peece,
T. Tauri

[Prince Alsihad]

"Faux Tools"? sounds like you've been brainwashed by Fletcher and Mixerman. Keep using you FOOL EDIT PRO, while the rest of us Faux Tools Engineers take care of the clients that you can't take care of because you're still using a toy.

[hakkamacher]

Originally posted by Prince Alsihad
"Faux Tools"? sounds like you've been brainwashed by Fletcher and Mixerman. Keep using you FOOL EDIT PRO, while the rest of us Faux Tools Engineers take care of the clients that you can't take care of because you're still using a toy.

For some reason I hear Mr. T's voice while reading your post?

Erm, care to explain how PT is superior to Cool Edit? Sounds like you've been brainwashed by Digidesign....

[Prince Alsihad]

Never said PT was superior to Cool Edit Pro. Please reread my post, and please pay close attention to the smiley face at the end. In saying that, I still haven't had any clients ask for CEP, or Nuendo, or anything BUT PT. Maybe that will change sometime in the future, but for now PT is king whether you think it sounds better or not. There must be a reason why companies like Crane Song, GML, etc. are developing plugins for PT and NOT Cool Edit Pro. Faux Tools? I think not!

Just don't know why all the digi bashing on Gearslutz, but I have noticed that most of the bashing in general comes from people who:

1.) can't afford an HD system so they settle for a Native DAW (Like Cool Edit Pro).
2.) have thousands/millions of dollars invested in tape machines, big ass consoles, etc. and are losing clients to smaller rooms that have PT
3.) never even worked with Pro Tools, but hate it because Fletcher does. (no disrespect intended towards Fletcher, just think that he has a lot of people swinging from his nutsack and take everything he says like it's the ****ing Word of God or something)

Anyway, use whatever the hell you want to use. At the end of the day it's all going to sound like shit (whether you use CEP, PT, or RADAR) when someone downloads the mp3 from the internet. PT works great for me and my clients, and that's all I give two shits about.

Cheers!

[2leod]

I was gonna suggest dowloading the PT desktop image from the Digi site, but that seems a little smarmy. Just get PT FREE so that you can say you've got it when they ask? Then explain that though you have "PT" you prefer using CEP... I dunno, still seems decidedly deceptive. Maybe pick up a 001 and put it on an old comp, they're cheap and it doesn't hurt to have more than one tool in the shed, even if you still have a favorite you use exclusively.

[joeq]

Originally posted by 2leod
I was gonna suggest dowloading the PT desktop image from the Digi site, but that seems a little smarmy.

a pro tools screen saver! I once had a Tetris game that could instantly turn into a spreadsheet in case the boss was coming.

[Henchman]

Originally posted by Prince Alsihad


Just don't know why all the digi bashing on Gearslutz, but I have noticed that most of the bashing in general comes from people who:

1.) can't afford an HD system so they settle for a Native DAW (Like Cool Edit Pro).
2.) have thousands/millions of dollars invested in tape machines, big ass consoles, etc. and are losing clients to smaller rooms that have PT
3.) never even worked with Pro Tools, but hate it because Fletcher does. (no disrespect intended towards Fletcher, just think that he has a lot of people swinging from his nutsack and take everything he says like it's the ****ing Word of God or something)

Anyway, use whatever the hell you want to use. At the end of the day it's all going to sound like shit (whether you use CEP, PT, or RADAR) when someone downloads the mp3 from the internet. PT works great for me and my clients, and that's all I give two shits about.

Cheers!

None of the 3 above apply to me, and I still hate faux tools. Use it everyday at work. It does suck shit.

And anyone who calls an Amek Big a world class console, or aludes to it being such, needs their ears examined.

[C.Lambrechts]

somehow knew this was going to happen when I first read the title.

closed and moan zoaned.