peluso 22 47 are NOT good

[simeon gilmour]

Ok so i bought a Peluso 2247 about a month ago, i was so looking forward to hearing and getting this mic. when i got it and tried it on a few clients i was so disappointed with the sound, i had just wasted my money. my $500 Chinese tube mic sounded better. i didn't know what to do. i tried to sell it but no one would buy it for my asking price. so i rang up the distrob in Australia and he told me some very interesting things about Peluso witch made sens why my mic sounded so bad. anyway his name is Ben Sneesby, he is a life saver and a champ, he riped the guts out of my mic and power supply and put all origanel german parts in and made it sound amazing. beast mic i ever heard. so heres to Ben Sneesby... so watch out for peluso cos there doing the dirty on us

[Lunatic]

This information seems... generic and lacking some detail. What did you not like about the mic? What is the "dirty" you write about? Simply talking in riddles isn't going to support your complaint no matter how valid the complaint. I realize you may be trying to stay "neutral" in your explanation but if you have real, honest, information that is indisputable then please share it! This would at least provide some more information so that future potential buyers can be educated.

For the record, we own an original 2247 and happily use it all the time.

[Empty Planet]

I think it's a fairly extraordinary mic in its price range. Highly detailed, with great depth.

I replaced the tube with a Telefunken and am quite pleased with it.

True, it's not a classic U47 (the topology is quite different) and won't stand up to an original Neumann -- but then, it's somewhere between an eighth and a tenth of the cost, and even at that price does a remarkable job, imho, of providing certain aspects of a Neumannesque performance.

Completed a voiceover job with it today and it performed extraordinarily well. Also been getting some lovely acoustic guitar sounds through it lately.

At any rate, by all means, lay the specifics on us. Curious to hear what you got.


Cheers.

[Lunatic]

::WARNING - hijack in progress::

Empty Plant... which Telefunken did you put in? I need to try that!

::We now return you to your thread in progress::

[Empty Planet]

Sent you a PM.

[wreckd]

Originally Posted by simeon gilmour

i tried to sell it but no one would buy it for my asking price

You bought it a month ago...so what did you try and sell for a whole two weeks? Its taken me months sometimes to get the "right" price when I sell gear. Where did you advertise?

Originally Posted by simeon gilmour

i rang up the distrob in Australia and he told me some very interesting things about Peluso witch made sens why my mic sounded so bad

What did he tell you?

[Animus]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

::WARNING - hijack in progress::

Empty Plant... which Telefunken did you put in? I need to try that!

::We now return you to your thread in progress::

Spill the beans publicly! :-) I have a Peluso 251 I might want to mod eventually.

[simeon gilmour]

Ok so i will try to get all the specs off Ben who modified it. he done such a great job. now Ben used to be the supplier for peluso in Australia but he refuses to now cos some of the mics (including the 2247) are now made in China and do not sound the way they use to. it costs peluso about $80 to make the 2247 and it sounded like that. im sure the older ones sounded good when they were hand built in the US. but not the new ones.

[Empty Planet]

Hmmm. As I understand it, parts of the mic were always outsourced to China, but assembly was here in the U.S.

Are you saying that's changed and that it's no longer assembled here? Important to know, if true. What was your source?



Cheers.

[Duardo]

What was your source?

Sounds like his source is a disgruntled former Peluso distributor...

[mics]

I'm not getting involved but here is the finished job. Point to point, it just fits but makes a hell of a difference.

[Empty Planet]

I'm not into the drama. I'll consider anything that will give me a more usable sound. Just as a curious mic user, what mods did you make here? That looks really interesting. What tube did you use?


Cheers.

[mics]

The tube is a Telefunken Ef13, the mod is simple, rip out the guts, start again. I remove the pcb and all parts, the only two things kept are the capsule and transformer. Parts used are bc and reidon american resistors, German tube, German and Russian paper in oil capacitors (vintage). The whole lot is point to point wired. The end result is an amazing microphone.

[Lunatic]

And the cost for such a fancy mod?

[Empty Planet]

Originally Posted by mics

The tube is a Telefunken Ef13, the mod is simple, rip out the guts, start again....

Hey, very cool. Thanks for that.


Cheers.

[mics]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

And the cost for such a fancy mod?

Hi Brad, The cost for this mod is $660. I guarantee all work for 5 years and the tube for 2 years. if you would like to hear the difference, let me know and i'll send you a wave file of the 2 mics, both on vox and accoustic. If you want the mic to look the part as well, I can remove all components form the mic and power supply, have them sandblasted and powder coated in antique silver hammertone. the finish is awsome and very unlike anything available today on the market. You will then have a truly unique and rare mic that sounds and looks amazing. Let me know. Ben

[Duardo]

I'm not getting involved but here is the finished job. Point to point, it just fits but makes a hell of a difference.

So you're willing to push your mod here, but not to back up the allegations you made which were then passed on to this board?

[simeon gilmour]

yep, im a living testament to the awesome sound of this mic. i cant stop using it. i have been recording this one lady for a while and i smacked the mic on her vox and she said she loved the sound of her voice, before that i was using a peluso 22 215 witch was nice and smooth but a bit to smooth, this new mic has a bit of bite.

[mics]

Originally Posted by Duardo

So you're willing to push your mod here, but not to back up the allegations you made which were then passed on to this board?

Hi Duardo, I can't say anything on the forum as it will only be removed. You or anyone can call or email me at anytime. Ben

[Yoda117]

Originally Posted by mics

Hi Duardo, I can't say anything on the forum as it will only be removed. You or anyone can call or email me at anytime. Ben

Yeah, because everyone knows how this board is about holding back our opinions, even if they disagree with the status quo. And everyone knows that everybody here is an absolute Peluso fanboy

Sorry dude, I may not like Peluso's stuff compared to a lot of other mics in that price range, but if you're not willing to put yourself out there, you can't expect folks to buy into what you're saying. There have been a lot of folks who loves John's stuff, and a lot that don't. Even more that just don't care because they're using something else that works for them. Point is that so long as the rules of the board are adhered to, people may disagree with you, but nobody will deny you your right to speak.

God knows Fletcher's had enough to say about Peluso mics (if memory serves correct).

Toss up some clips. Maybe your stuff is better, maybe not. Let the folks decide.

[heyman]

Ben, can you please elaborate on the sound of the 2247 pre and post mod.

What mics would you compare them to?

Also sound clips would be helpful.

Thanks.

[mics]

Originally Posted by heyman

Ben, can you please elaborate on the sound of the 2247 pre and post mod.

What mics would you compare them to?

Also sound clips would be helpful.

Thanks.

hi there, the mic mod i have done for simeon is essentially a rebuild more than a mod. It is a cross match (schematically) between a M49 and a U47. it uses an EF 13 tube (very similar to the VF 14 in the U47, and uses a capsule polarisation schematic that is very similar to the M49. Essentailly what it gives you is a very lush sounding mic, even frequency response and a beutifully defined top end. The 2247 although it has a certain amount of definition, it lacks lustre and sounds a bit lifeless up top. i will post some files for you to listen to. thanks. ben

[Stitch333]

Originally Posted by mics

hi there, the mic mod i have done for simeon is essentially a rebuild more than a mod. It is a cross match (schematically) between a M49 and a U47. it uses an EF 13 tube (very similar to the VF 14 in the U47, and uses a capsule polarisation schematic that is very similar to the M49. Essentailly what it gives you is a very lush sounding mic, even frequency response and a beutifully defined top end. The 2247 although it has a certain amount of definition, it lacks lustre and sounds a bit lifeless up top. i will post some files for you to listen to. thanks. ben

whats your contact info or website?

cheers!

[mics]

i can be contacted here

info at pultec dot com dot au or you can call me too on +61 419 481 569, I am happy to talk to anyone. i am currently putting together a new website it will be beesneezmicrophones dot com it should be up in the next few weeks, but as history denotes, mics are my forte, not website development. lol. Ben

[OpenEye]

For what it's worth, I live 22 miles from John Peluso and bought 6 different Peluso mics from him directly last month at his workshop (2-2247se, 2- P28, 2 CEM C6). These microphones are NOT assembled in China as someone here has suggested, he had approx. twelve 2247 models on his workbench where he works on each mic one step at a time. Great guy too, very friendly.

[Empty Planet]

Thanks for that. Good to know.

The sound clip showcasing this other mic has not been forthcoming either. Ah well.

Yes, I've dealt with John a couple of times, and both times he's stood behind his products completely. Great service, actually.


Cheers.

[mics]

i am sorry that i haven't sent the clip yet, i have had a very severe stomach flu. i will post it in the next few days when i can get to the studio.

[mics]

Originally Posted by OpenEye

For what it's worth, I live 22 miles from John Peluso and bought 6 different Peluso mics from him directly last month at his workshop (2-2247se, 2- P28, 2 CEM C6). These microphones are NOT assembled in China as someone here has suggested, he had approx. twelve 2247 models on his workbench where he works on each mic one step at a time. Great guy too, very friendly.

If you go over to his workshop the 2247LE, 2247SE and P12 are all you will ever find in his workshop 12 at a time. And i will never dispute this as these 3 are great mics. But last time i looked, peluso sold more than 3 mics!!!!!!! But what the hey, it is your money!!

[127Riot]

Originally Posted by simeon gilmour

Ok so i bought a Peluso 2247 about a month ago, i was so looking forward to hearing and getting this mic. when i got it and tried it on a few clients i was so disappointed with the sound, i had just wasted my money. my $500 Chinese tube mic sounded better. i didn't know what to do. i tried to sell it but no one would buy it for my asking price. so i rang up the distrob in Australia and he told me some very interesting things about Peluso witch made sens why my mic sounded so bad. anyway his name is Ben Sneesby, he is a life saver and a champ, he riped the guts out of my mic and power supply and put all origanel german parts in and made it sound amazing. beast mic i ever heard. so heres to Ben Sneesby... so watch out for peluso cos there doing the dirty on us

You sound like an idiot, Peluso has great microphones. Before you shoot down a whole company. Did you even take the time to see if the mic was defected. You say you purchased it a month ago. Why didn't you contact the dealer right away if you were unhappy with the product? I have 5 peluso mic's and every one of them sounds like angels singing down from heaven. Clean you ears......