Phasing problem with drums

jeronimo · 25th June 2002, 12:04 PM

Hello guys!
I´m running PT LE and I have a question:
While sending all my drums to an AUX track and compressing it, I hear phasing, mostly on the snare.
Is there any way to get rid of it? What cause this?

alphajerk · 25th June 2002, 07:28 PM

latency. delay the OTHER tracks [post send]

e-cue · 26th June 2002, 12:14 AM

Ditto... put "Time Adjuster" on the tracks not being auxed

davemc · 26th June 2002, 01:28 AM

If you want to do the compressed and uncompressed drums in PT.
Send all the drums out a stereo buss.(say drum buss)
Create two stereo aux busses tracks with the input to stereo buss. and you can then adjust the clean and compressed levels.
With LE I did not think there was lantacy with RTAS plugins, although the aux busses could still be what 8 samples. (RTFM)
With TDM I put a comp on one stero aux (channelstrip or DUY valve) and a timeadjuster on the other.

Hope this helps

tee · 5th July 2002, 11:53 PM

In LE there is just as much latency with plug-ins as with a TDM system. Another option after inserting a Comp on a drum track is to just nudge that track forward by the # of samples of latency that the plug-in causes. If you command-click the volume box on that channel it will toggle through volume, latency in samples and something else I can't think at this second

.

I always write the number of samples the track's been moved in the text box at the bottom of each channel strip so I can keep track of it if I decide to remove the plug-in, so I can move the track back to it's original position.

It's truly a pain in the balls - we sorely need auto delay compensation.

Good Luck

Tony

e-cue · 6th July 2002, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tee
If you command-click the volume box on that channel it will toggle through volume, latency in samples and something else I can't think at this second .

peak

jeronimo · 25th July 2002, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tee
... If you command-click the volume box on that channel it will toggle through volume, latency in samples and something else I can't think at this second ....

I don't know where exactly should I command click to see the latency... that's wierd... :)

e-cue · 25th July 2002, 05:03 PM

In your mix window, hold down Apple & Click where it shows the numerical value of your fader (Vol 0.0). It's the 3rd box down, right above where it shows the numerical value of your panner.

Apple Click once = Peak
Apple Click again = DLY, the delay in samples of your plug ins (but not sample delay of doing A/D D/A conversions)
Apple Click again = Vol (again)

jeronimo · 25th July 2002, 09:02 PM

Uh huh, thanks!!! e-cue rlz grggt grggt

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25th June 2002, 12:04 PM	#1
jeronimo Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salvador, BA - Brazil Posts: 2,460	Phasing problem with drums Hello guys! I´m running PT LE and I have a question: While sending all my drums to an AUX track and compressing it, I hear phasing, mostly on the snare. Is there any way to get rid of it? What cause this? __________________ Think Diferente! www.verticeestudio.com http://www.myspace.com/jelmet

26th June 2002, 01:28 AM	#4
davemc Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Melb, Australia Posts: 1,027	If you want to do the compressed and uncompressed drums in PT. Send all the drums out a stereo buss.(say drum buss) Create two stereo aux busses tracks with the input to stereo buss. and you can then adjust the clean and compressed levels. With LE I did not think there was lantacy with RTAS plugins, although the aux busses could still be what 8 samples. (RTFM) With TDM I put a comp on one stero aux (channelstrip or DUY valve) and a timeadjuster on the other. Hope this helps __________________ Bye Ya Dave INDENT

25th July 2002, 09:02 PM	#9
jeronimo Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salvador, BA - Brazil Posts: 2,460	Uh huh, thanks!!! e-cue rlz grggt grggt __________________ Think Diferente! www.verticeestudio.com http://www.myspace.com/jelmet

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25th June 2002, 07:28 PM	#2
alphajerk There is only one Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: asheville NC Posts: 5,291	latency. delay the OTHER tracks [post send]

26th June 2002, 12:14 AM	#3
e-cue Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 3,874	Ditto... put "Time Adjuster" on the tracks not being auxed

5th July 2002, 11:53 PM	#5
tee Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: jim thorpe,pa Posts: 122	In LE there is just as much latency with plug-ins as with a TDM system. Another option after inserting a Comp on a drum track is to just nudge that track forward by the # of samples of latency that the plug-in causes. If you command-click the volume box on that channel it will toggle through volume, latency in samples and something else I can't think at this second . I always write the number of samples the track's been moved in the text box at the bottom of each channel strip so I can keep track of it if I decide to remove the plug-in, so I can move the track back to it's original position. It's truly a pain in the balls - we sorely need auto delay compensation. Good Luck Tony

25th July 2002, 05:03 PM	#8
e-cue Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 3,874	In your mix window, hold down Apple & Click where it shows the numerical value of your fader (Vol 0.0). It's the 3rd box down, right above where it shows the numerical value of your panner. Apple Click once = Peak Apple Click again = DLY, the delay in samples of your plug ins (but not sample delay of doing A/D D/A conversions) Apple Click again = Vol (again)