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Old 13th June 2008, 06:04 AM   #1
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Stop the tubular bells please?

I just drove home from my Dad's and heard two current pop songs on the radio in a row with tubular bells in chorus, al la the old 60's stuff. Then I get back and get an email link to an album a singer I used to play with has recorded and first track - tubular bells. The whole Mark Ronson doing the 60's Ronnettes Shirelles Phil Spector rip off sound thing.....really once was enough for me. There seems to be about 100 females all trying to be the next Amy Winehouse, including Mark Ronson himself. Is it just me? Are skinny black ties really that cool? Aren't tubular bells the banjo of the classical world?
Each to their own I guess....maybe it's still better than emo...
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Old 13th June 2008, 10:40 AM   #2
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totally!

when an artist comes from okay sales to multi million sales with a relatively cheap album and what, on the face of it, seems to be success with a fresh new sound - you can bet there will ALWAYS be the clones coming out of the woodwork. Look what happened after the Strokes came out. Or Oasis. Look how many 70's sampled diva tracks came out after Beyonce - "Crazy in Love"... As for skinny ties, the mainstream nicked all this off the London Indie scene of seven years ago! Takes a while to filter through to middle of the road - but that's where we are. If you want to see what the big thing will be in 5 years - look to the London Indie circuit, then dilute to taste !
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Old 13th June 2008, 12:39 PM   #3
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Yeah!

This 60's re-visiting that is going on at the moment is really UN-innovative and easy fodder. But when did that bother the Record Industry.


I cannot stand the throwback sound of Duffy, although I like her voice and she seems like a cool chick. I would like to hear her in a more contemporary and original context, not coat-tailing the 60's era.

When artists strike retro-gold I guess it is hard for them to take the risk of moving away.
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Old 15th June 2008, 07:15 AM   #4
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I see where you guys are coming from. Amy Winehouse! The first thing I thought was like, wow, some black girl (or her producer) revamping 60's soul! I was really interested. Then I found out she was British. What?! Then I thought, oh, i can't wait for all the other British female artists to emulate her. I was even more excited! Then I had this weird thought, oh, how long before we have white american solo artists copying white British artists copying black singers from the 60's?! Well, I am sure they were copying somebody in the 60s too. "It's turtles all the way down!" So it's going to be a bunch of bastardized songs and styles coming forth but I will love every minute of it.

Nothing against Brits in the slightest though. They've done this before and in their own way. I've got "It's So Fine: Pye Girls Are Go" on order. There is a song recorded by Nita Rossi in '65 titled, "Untrue, Unfaithful" that is one of the awesomest songs I have ever heard. Here's the link where you can listen to like the first half of the song. Killer chord prog and flute melody!:

Ready steady girls!

The other one on there is good too.

Anyway, I am so glad this happened. I guess it depends on wether your interested in what you feel is good music or innovation. I am interested in what I feel is good music. I also consider a good song, melody, performance etc. innovative in it's own right.

And I love the decade of the sixties in music more than anything. Even though I was born much, much later. So if 60's stylings are coming back then my ears are anxiously waiting.

I mean I enjoy modern things too but I love the often lighthearted, melodic, harmonic ingenuity and baggage-free music of that decade. It seemed that it was music written by master writers and performers ingeniously crafted for the common average listener. Today sometimes it seems that the music is written by the average for the average. And average people ironically don't know what average people want. But hey, it's different times so it should be fun anyway.

Can you go to a little club in London or the outskirts and hear smalltime bands doing 60's style stuff? Everyone copying Winehouse and Duffy and doing it decently? Oh, would that it was the case here...
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Old 15th June 2008, 12:58 PM   #5
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I kind of like the stuff people like Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings, winehouse, duffy etc are doing (please don't shoot me). I wouldn't mind that 50/60's soul sound coming back, or at least a sound influenced by it. I'm a huge fan of that Sam Cooke, Otis Redding, STAX, Motown era

It seems a bit weird to me that people are always complaining about how the style of music was better back then, but then when new artists come out who have a sound influenced by that era people go "OH GOD...UGH I CANT STAND IT...GIVE ME SOMETHING NEW"

Its like...ok...you don't like new stuff...but you don't like new stuff that sounds old either....but you want a new sound..but you hate the new stuff that sounds new...

I guess sometimes people just cant be satisfied and they'll find some reason not to like pretty much anything.
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I kind of like the stuff people like Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings, winehouse, duffy etc are doing (please don't shoot me). I wouldn't mind that 50/60's soul sound coming back, or at least a sound influenced by it. I'm a huge fan of that Sam Cooke, Otis Redding, STAX, Motown era

It seems a bit weird to me that people are always complaining about how the style of music was better back then, but then when new artists come out who have a sound influenced by that era people go "OH GOD...UGH I CANT STAND IT...GIVE ME SOMETHING NEW"

Its like...ok...you don't like new stuff...but you don't like new stuff that sounds old either....but you want a new sound..but you hate the new stuff that sounds new...

I guess sometimes people just cant be satisfied and they'll find some reason not to like pretty much anything.
ah well - you'll notice it's a different set of people. You can't please all people!
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